Spurs vs. Warriors FO

After this draft, Warriors FO are really light-years ahead.

Hate to say it, but its the truth.

Spurs had Jordan Bell in their lap and they pass to select a 6'5 Kyle Anderson w/ a better shot that has a back up PG ceiling. White won't be able to defend any position other than the PG. I'm just disgusted.. to be honest. Sure White was a great scorer in college like Marcus Williams was, but he doesn't have the athleticism to really excel in the NBA on offense and doesn't have the athleticism to be versatile on defense. I see him like I saw Roger Mason defensively.

All while, GS trades into the 2nd round to select the 2nd coming of Draymond w/ Jordan Bell. The player Spurs should have drafted. The type of player Spurs desperately needed. Jordan Bell will be able to play at the end of games because of how versatile he is defensively.

Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, Bell is not right.

I'm so pissed.

STAHP

It's funny people still overrate this front office when they haven't struck gold since 2011 in the draft.

:lol I'm so pissed

please

To be fair, Derrick White is ranked higher in DraftExpress' Top 100 Prospects than Jordan Bell. He's also ranked above him in almost every mock draft I've seen.

We were just having this discussion earlier today and people were getting offended:lol

They've been far ahead for 2 years, tbh..that's the most dangerous part about these Warriors and why they're so frightening, unfortunately..not only are they loaded with talent, but they also have an unrivaled front office..

This isn't the old Lakers that only relied on geography for their success, tbh..hopefully Curry suffers a career-ending injury during the off-season..

said the same thing in the other thread. warriors fo> Disciplined to a fault.

Buford would've drafted Valenciunas if he was available instead of Kawhi :lol ....

Dude is living off a fluke pick and Presti drafting Parker...

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Originally Posted by Uriel

To be fair, Derrick White is ranked higher in DraftExpress' Top 100 Prospects than Jordan Bell. He's also ranked above him in almost every mock draft I've seen.

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I agree, but the hart thing is still confusing me.

Ridiculous how far PATFO have fallen. Feel awful for Kawhi.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

We were just having this discussion earlier today and people were getting offended:lol

They've been far ahead for 2 years, tbh..that's the most dangerous part about these Warriors and why they're so frightening, unfortunately..not only are they loaded with talent, but they also have an unrivaled front office..

This isn't the old Lakers that only relied on geography for their success, tbh..hopefully Curry suffers a career-ending injury during the off-season..

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I like. :lol

And they want to keep Parker. Just paleolithic as fuck.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

And they want to keep Green and Aldridge. Just paleolithic as fuck.

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Damn those liberal west coast elites with their fancy Stanford degrees, cosmopolitan cities, and urban, tech-savvy lifestyles.

welp, heres to another season with the same players

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Originally Posted by Uriel

To be fair, Derrick White is ranked higher in DraftExpress' Top 100 Prospects than Jordan Bell. He's also ranked above him in almost every mock draft I've seen.

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Because Jordan Bell is a big project at this point.

The Spurs FO has been overrated for quite some time. They've had Duncan, prime Parker and Ginobili covering up their mistakes for years.

Derrick White is fine, stop overreacting.

I liked Bell, but he has flaws also.

Wonder if Pop is obsessed with handicaps

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Because Jordan Bell is a big project at this point.

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He looks like a poor man's Dejuan Blair.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Wonder if Pop is obsessed with handicaps

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Damn.

:lmao

To be fair, both Pop and RC openly confessed in the past that Timmeh made them both look good. At the time it seemed like humbleness; now maybe just the truth?

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Originally Posted by Robz4000

Ridiculous how far PATFO have fallen. Feel awful for Kawhi.

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Kawhi will go to Magic's Lakers

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Originally Posted by Russ

He looks like a poor man's Dejuan Blair.

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Another draft day steal for the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Russ

He looks like a poor man's Dejuan Blair.

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Uh, except with no offensive skill plus defensive skill.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

After this draft, Warriors FO are really light-years ahead.

Hate to say it, but its the truth.

Spurs had Jordan Bell in their lap and they pass to select a 6'5 Kyle Anderson w/ a better shot that has a back up PG ceiling. White won't be able to defend any position other than the PG. I'm just disgusted.. to be honest. Sure White was a great scorer in college like Marcus Williams was, but he doesn't have the athleticism to really excel in the NBA on offense and doesn't have the athleticism to be versatile on defense. I see him like I saw Roger Mason defensively.

All while, GS trades into the 2nd round to select the 2nd coming of Draymond w/ Jordan Bell. The player Spurs should have drafted. The type of player Spurs desperately needed. Jordan Bell will be able to play at the end of games because of how versatile he is defensively.

Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, Bell is not right.

I'm so pissed.

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You guys and your love for am offensive challenged player is funny.

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

Spurstalk losing their shit over a prospect that isn't even better than Kyle Anderson. :lmao

Spurstalk opinion of Kyle Anderson would be completely different if he played on GSW though.

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

Kawhi will go to Magic's Lakers

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:lol at this point it's obvious you're trolling

It's not about White vs. Bell

It's about GS having nothing more than any other team in the league to compete with and get a trade done. They went and got Bell when everyone else could but wouldn't.

That's where the Spurs are falling short.

The Spurs are behind, they're the ones trying to make up ground. They should be striking first, getting talent for $ is cost effective in the long run when the money is that contextually small. 3.5% equivalent of the cap to lock a player for several years at cheap money is the smart way to attack.

Kyle Anderson was a better and younger prospect when he was drafted. We should bump that draft thread to see how excited everyone was.

Well, only one FO signed this guy, so...

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

Well, only one FO signed this guy, so...

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/...0&h=600&crop=1

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by Ditty

Derrick White is fine, stop overreacting.

I liked Bell, but he has flaws also.

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Maybe a little overreacting :lol

I'm warming up to White, as I always usually do w/ who Spurs pick.

However, SA still had opportunity to get into 2nd round when Bell was there but they sat on their hands -- all while Warriors did what they had to do to improve their team.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Spurstalk losing their shit over a prospect that isn't even better than Kyle Anderson. :lmao

Spurstalk opinion of Kyle Anderson would be completely different if he played on GSW though.

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It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

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Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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:lol you just know the Spurs would have stayed pat if they won 73 games last year

Theyre fat and apathetic after all these years of success.

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

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Draymond was a 35th pick iirc, no one knew he'd become who he is.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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Exactly my thoughts.

Warriors reportedly paid $3.5 million for Bell.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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They aren't that similar other than both being undersized (although Draymond's length and strength makes up for that) and good defenders.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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They are good sure but Spurstalk is losing their shit over a lesser prospect than Kyle Anderson. Which is absurd because I think they lost their shit when we drafted Kyle Anderson.

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Originally Posted by 313

:lol you just know the Spurs would have stayed pat if they won 73 games last year

Theyre fat and apathetic after all these years of success.

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Most of Spurstalk would've blew the team up long before 2013. We would've never won in 2014 and never had the opportunity to win in 2013.

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Originally Posted by 313

Draymond was a 35th pick iirc, no one knew he'd become who he is.

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I'm not saying Bell won't be a good player or that he doesn't have potential but they aren't really the same type of player, other than both are undersized, good defenders with a good work ethic.

The knock against Draymond was that he was too small, not athletic enough and had limited upside/potential.

Draymond:

Strengths: The ultimate "Glue Guy", Green's strongest asset is his ability to contribute across the board ... He has a substantial wingspan with a strong frame, and is unafraid to bang with bigger bodies ... Good-looking shooter when his feet are set and he catches/releases in rhythm ... Can stretch the floor with NBA 3-point range ... His vision, passing and ability to facilitate out of the post make it difficult for off-ball defenders to keep their eyes on their man and the ball at the same time ... Reliable mid-range jumper ... Green is slippery with his back to the basket, with the ability to spin baseline or turn across the lane for the finish ... Terrific rebounder thanks to the combination of an aggressive motor and soft hands ... Unselfish and timely passer ... Overachiever. High basketball IQ ... Makes those around him better, possesses sense of maturity and leadership qualities ...

Weaknesses: One of those great college basketball players that doesn't excel in any one particular area ... Tweener, undersized for a physical forward yet lacks the athleticism of a wing ... Lacks explosiveness, agility, elusiveness and quickness off the bounce ... Under the rim finisher, which is troublesome when you consider his size ... Not a threat to shake his defender off the dribble ... Minimal upside ... Vulnerable defending quicker guards on the perimeter ... Could stand to drop some weight ...

Overall: The Big-Ten Player of the Year, Green has a number of likeable qualities, but not one specific skill that a team may be seeking ... He's a low-risk/low-reward pick considering his role-player potential and ability to fit in ... His ceiling dances around the mid-20s, where a playoff can use him right away to compliment its better players ...

I think people just don't want to play for Popovich and I don't blame them

GS's job is much easier, tbh. They only need to draft tall lanky players who can become halfway decent stopgap role players.

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

I'm not saying Bell won't be a good player or that he doesn't have potential but they aren't really the same type of player, other than both are undersized, good defenders with a good work ethic.

The knock against Draymond was that he was too small, not athletic enough and had limited upside/potential.

Draymond:

Strengths: The ultimate "Glue Guy", Green's strongest asset is his ability to contribute across the board ... He has a substantial wingspan with a strong frame, and is unafraid to bang with bigger bodies ... Good-looking shooter when his feet are set and he catches/releases in rhythm ... Can stretch the floor with NBA 3-point range ... His vision, passing and ability to facilitate out of the post make it difficult for off-ball defenders to keep their eyes on their man and the ball at the same time ... Reliable mid-range jumper ... Green is slippery with his back to the basket, with the ability to spin baseline or turn across the lane for the finish ... Terrific rebounder thanks to the combination of an aggressive motor and soft hands ... Unselfish and timely passer ... Overachiever. High basketball IQ ... Makes those around him better, possesses sense of maturity and leadership qualities ...

Weaknesses: One of those great college basketball players that doesn't excel in any one particular area ... Tweener, undersized for a physical forward yet lacks the athleticism of a wing ... Lacks explosiveness, agility, elusiveness and quickness off the bounce ... Under the rim finisher, which is troublesome when you consider his size ... Not a threat to shake his defender off the dribble ... Minimal upside ... Vulnerable defending quicker guards on the perimeter ... Could stand to drop some weight ...

Overall: The Big-Ten Player of the Year, Green has a number of likeable qualities, but not one specific skill that a team may be seeking ... He's a low-risk/low-reward pick considering his role-player potential and ability to fit in ... His ceiling dances around the mid-20s, where a playoff can use him right away to compliment its better players ...

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If Draymond Green played for any team but the Warriors, no one would know him. It seems that everyone who plays with the warriors are allowed to get away with the most blatant shit . David West was doing shit this year that was getting him quick fouls last year playing with us. Same with Pachulla. Green is among the league leaders in fouls and those are just the ones they call. Put Deaundre Jordan on the Warriors and his fouls would decrease by 25%. Every few years, the league picks a team they want to promote and let get away with everything. Remember some years ago when Lebron went 3 games straight without committing a foul? How the fuck does that happen?

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Originally Posted by james evans

If Draymond Green played for any team but the Warriors, no one would know him. It seems that everyone who plays with the warriors are allowed to get away with the most blatant shit . David West was doing shit this year that was getting him quick fouls last year playing with us. Same with Pachulla. Green is among the league leaders in fouls and those are just the ones they call. Put Deaundre Jordan on the Warriors and his fouls would decrease by 25%. Every few years, the league picks a team they want to promote and let get away with everything. Remember some years ago when Lebron went 3 games straight without committing a foul? How the fuck does that happen?

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I have said pretty much the same thing you have said which is Draymond is a ref reliant player. He relies heavily in getting away with hand checking on every possession, along with being able to commit illegal screens. Those skills are not transferable to a regular team. Anyways the Warriors are living rent free in a lot of these idiots heads including the the OP. They are a great team but they are not going to win forever. What a joke of thread this is since OP is screaming that the spurs didn't draft a scrub and the warriors got the scrub instead. ST needs to stop obsessing with them it's beyond pathetic even worse than when the Lakers were owning the Spurs during the early '00s.

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Originally Posted by eDizzle20

Warriors reportedly paid $3.5 million for Bell.

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Yup. Warriors are drowning in Silicon Valley money so they basically said F it, let's call every team and whichever team takes the offer of the highest allowable - which is what they paid - we'll buy into the draft.

I think the NBA should eliminate the ability to buy picks. I'm fine with money being sent in a player trade to pay some of their salary, but this goes against the spirit of competitive balance.

I'd be even more pissed if I'm a Bulls fan. Not like I'm in a small market. Owner just literally pocketed $3.5 million so he can pay it to Rondo to go away. Pathetic

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Spurstalk losing their shit over a prospect that isn't even better than Kyle Anderson. :lmao

Spurstalk opinion of Kyle Anderson would be completely different if he played on GSW though.

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That would change everything Im pretty sure, In GSW players just need to hit some shots or a layup since is a shooting team, but in SA they need to do 40 more things and then some shots.

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Originally Posted by james evans

If Draymond Green played for any team but the Warriors, no one would know him. It seems that everyone who plays with the warriors are allowed to get away with the most blatant shit . David West was doing shit this year that was getting him quick fouls last year playing with us. Same with Pachulla. Green is among the league leaders in fouls and those are just the ones they call. Put Deaundre Jordan on the Warriors and his fouls would decrease by 25%. Every few years, the league picks a team they want to promote and let get away with everything. Remember some years ago when Lebron went 3 games straight without committing a foul? How the fuck does that happen?

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I don't know if no one would know about him but he probably wouldn't be nearly as well regarded (viewed as a top 10-20 player). I think Bell is a great fit for them because he doesn't need to do anything offensively and the Warriors can utilize his strengths while hiding his weaknesses (they made Javale McGee look great).


When it comes to the Spurs vs Warriors it's basically player development vs utilization/roster development. Spurs have been great at developing players, while the Warriors have been great at finding players that fit what they need and utilizing their strengths.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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They won 73 games and lost the finals, thats why they went to Durbeta and won 67 games, not 82.

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

They won 73 games and lost the finals, thats why they went to Durbeta and won 67 games, not 82.

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They actually won 83 games in '16-17 and have the last laugh, and the gate receipts from losing one game to Cleveland paid for Jordan Bell and then some

Lost 15 regular season plus one on the playoffs = 16 this year
Lost 9 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 4 last year = 18 last year

So despite no Durant for a month or so, they still decreased their loss total

This thread is retarded, GSW is looking good because their starters are in their primes and do all the heavy work, plus the ref shit.
OKC had great picks and now is sinking like the titanic.
Would love to see what GSWFO can do when his starters are getting older.

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Originally Posted by cjw

They actually won 83 games last year and have the last laugh, and the gate receipts from losing one game to Cleveland paid for Jordan Bell and then some

Lost 15 regular season plus one on the playoffs = 16 this year
Lost 9 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 4 last year = 18 last year

So despite no Durant for a month or so, they still decreased their loss total

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There is no laugh in losing the finals when you have a 73 win team, plus who the fuck is Jordan Bell?

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

This thread is retarded, GSW is looking good because their starters are in their primes and do all the heavy work, plus the ref shit.
OKC had great picks and now is sinking like the titanic.
Would love to see what GSWFO can do when his starters are getting older.

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This. A lot easier to look good when you have three of the top shooters in the league on your roster. They benefited significantly from sucking a while after the fun 2007 team and getting lottery picks. Spurs haven't drafted inside of 20 since 1997. Twenty years!

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

There is no laugh in losing the finals when you have a 73 win team, plus who the fuck is Jordan Bell?

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I meant they had the last laughs this year. 67+16=83. Takes 16 wins to win title.

Confusing usage of this/last. Should clarify 16-17 and 15-16. Sorry

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Kyle Anderson was a better and younger prospect when he was drafted. We should bump that draft thread to see how excited everyone was.

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Got triple doubles in college... got his team to the Ncaa sweet sixteen. He's a winner... won in the dleague summer league and will be winning in the NBA when given chances. Gets too much shit here uncessarily. It's nit like h didn't he show up in the playoffs when given chances.

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Originally Posted by cjw

This. A lot easier to look good when you have three of the top shooters in the league on your roster. They benefited significantly from sucking a while after the fun 2007 team and getting lottery picks. Spurs haven't drafted inside of 20 since 1997. Twenty years!

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And there is the fact that is a watered down league, Spurs did the right picks and had results vs Superlakers, Dallas, Phoenix, Pistons, Nets when they were in their primes.
GSW warriors faced injured teams 9 out of 12 times, and most were crappy anyway, easier to win when there is no competition, thats great for couch potato millennials because they watch all those wins in their smart phones!
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Originally Posted by rasuo214

I'm not saying Bell won't be a good player or that he doesn't have potential but they aren't really the same type of player, other than both are undersized, good defenders with a good work ethic.

The knock against Draymond was that he was too small, not athletic enough and had limited upside/potential.

Draymond:

Strengths: The ultimate "Glue Guy", Green's strongest asset is his ability to contribute across the board ... He has a substantial wingspan with a strong frame, and is unafraid to bang with bigger bodies ... Good-looking shooter when his feet are set and he catches/releases in rhythm ... Can stretch the floor with NBA 3-point range ... His vision, passing and ability to facilitate out of the post make it difficult for off-ball defenders to keep their eyes on their man and the ball at the same time ... Reliable mid-range jumper ... Green is slippery with his back to the basket, with the ability to spin baseline or turn across the lane for the finish ... Terrific rebounder thanks to the combination of an aggressive motor and soft hands ... Unselfish and timely passer ... Overachiever. High basketball IQ ... Makes those around him better, possesses sense of maturity and leadership qualities ...

Weaknesses: One of those great college basketball players that doesn't excel in any one particular area ... Tweener, undersized for a physical forward yet lacks the athleticism of a wing ... Lacks explosiveness, agility, elusiveness and quickness off the bounce ... Under the rim finisher, which is troublesome when you consider his size ... Not a threat to shake his defender off the dribble ... Minimal upside ... Vulnerable defending quicker guards on the perimeter ... Could stand to drop some weight ...

Overall: The Big-Ten Player of the Year, Green has a number of likeable qualities, but not one specific skill that a team may be seeking ... He's a low-risk/low-reward pick considering his role-player potential and ability to fit in ... His ceiling dances around the mid-20s, where a playoff can use him right away to compliment its better players ...

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Exactly complementing better players is what he's done... good draft scout conclusion...

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Originally Posted by cjw

This. A lot easier to look good when you have three of the top shooters in the league on your roster. They benefited significantly from sucking a while after the fun 2007 team and getting lottery picks. Spurs haven't drafted inside of 20 since 1997. Twenty years!

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Now apply this to the Spurs when they had a prime Duncan, Manu and Parker. It's easy to look like a competent GM when you have three of the best players in the league at their respective positions, playing at their best. You can actually afford to gift an untalented ginger a 10 year career and 27.1M and nobody is going to question it.

Btw, Warriors weren't historic and they weren't unbeatable. No Nurkic vs Portland, No Hill for games 2, 3 and 4 and a less than optimal Gobert vs Utah, No Parker or Leonard vs the Spurs and a Cleveland team that was ridiculed all season long for their lack of defense. Not to mention, the super team era has left the league as a whole watered down and devoid of talent.

Bell isn't even close to the prospect that Draymond was. Terrible player comparison.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Got triple doubles in college... got his team to the Ncaa sweet sixteen. He's a winner... won in the dleague summer league and will be winning in the NBA when given chances. Gets too much shit here uncessarily. It's nit like h didn't he show up in the playoffs when given chances.

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Glad Pop subbed Kawhi with fathead just so the team could blow up. :lmao

vs OKC

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vs OKC

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Highest winshares in the team after Kawhi this potseason.. your boy mills was supposed to carry the offense since he's the microwave and his light bulb went out lol two seasons in a row
Last season Kyle was 22 and for so little involvtment he didn't have rhythm. How was he this season,? Yeah cry me a river

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Highest winshares in the team after Kawhi this potseason.. your boy mills was supposed to carry the offense since he's the microwave and his light bulb went out lol two seasons in a row
Last season Kyle was 22 and for so little involvtment he didn't have rhythm. How was he this season,? Yeah cry me a river

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He was trash when it mattered. Nothing after Kawhi going down mattered. No pressure situation. You wouldn't know the difference though. :lmao

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Highest winshares in the team after Kawhi this potseason.. your boy mills was supposed to carry the offense since he's the microwave and his light bulb went out lol two seasons in a row
Last season Kyle was 22 and for so little involvtment he didn't have rhythm. How was he this season,? Yeah cry me a river

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Wow...

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Wow...

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I mean he kept pumping mills as the most consistent player.... consistently coming up short... pun intended :lol

We lose to the rockets without MVPatty. Fathead doesn't even move the needle. :lmao

Spurs had superiority over the league for years, but with the PATFO folks spreading out and getting jobs elsewhere, that expertise is now all over the place.

The Warriors are obviously today's king at picking, they picked their entire crew and their free agents. Spurs did not bother to pick up valuable players like Livingston and Clark when they were available in the past seasons. Also, Warriors have the money. What kind of organization pays $3.5m for a second round player? The kind that knows value when they see it.

Utah (also with Spurs personnel) may have also stolen a Spurs draft by paying money to draft one step higher than the Spurs.

What the Spurs got may be good role players, but not game changers with freakish capabilities.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

:cry I'm a better scout than RC and POP but they didn't listen to me :cry

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So he's fathead with a shot? Well if fathead could shoot he'd be pretty good.

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Originally Posted by cjw

Yup. Warriors are drowning in Silicon Valley money so they basically said F it, let's call every team and whichever team takes the offer of the highest allowable - which is what they paid - we'll buy into the draft.

I think the NBA should eliminate the ability to buy picks. I'm fine with money being sent in a player trade to pay some of their salary, but this goes against the spirit of competitive balance.

I'd be even more pissed if I'm a Bulls fan. Not like I'm in a small market. Owner just literally pocketed $3.5 million so he can pay it to Rondo to go away. Pathetic

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

This thread is retarded, GSW is looking good because their starters are in their primes and do all the heavy work, plus the ref shit.
OKC had great picks and now is sinking like the titanic.
Would love to see what GSWFO can do when his starters are getting older.

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This expanding warriors-slurping krew on ST :lmao..


Having said that, I'm not going to deny that PATFO hasn't made any FA/trade transaction in the last 5 years that has come to even move the needle on court (The Diaw pickup was the last one-- Spurs probably wouldn't have won Thunder series without him).

So yeah, the front office have beeen overrated for quite some time-- some of it self-inflicted (loyalty etc..)..

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Originally Posted by spursistan

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This expanding warriors-slurping krew on ST :lmao..


Having said that, I'm not going to deny that PATFO hasn't made any FA/trade transaction in the last 5 years that has come to even move the needle on court (The Diaw pickup was the last one-- Spurs probably wouldn't have won Thunder series without him).

So yeah, the front office have beeen overrated for quite some time-- some of it self-inflicted (loyalty etc..)..

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The Diaw pickup was 95% Parker though :lol smh

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

The Diaw pickup was 95% Parker though :lol smh

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AnD some want to trade Parker before we meet CP3 :lmao..

det Kiwi silver tongue is going to convince Paul..:lol

Pro's: for how 2017 ended, bottom line we were up 20 and cruising to Game 1 victory. Pops ball control offense was allowing the Spurs to be positioned for transition thusnot letting the Golden Phaggots get easy hoops. So which front office really did win in '17? We'll never know.

Cons: The ludicrous overpaying and length of contracts to slowing geezers. Da Phuck?

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Originally Posted by spursistan

An some want to trade Parker before we meet CP3 :lmao..

det Kiwi silver tongue is going to convince Paul..:lol

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Parker is responsible for the Diaw pickup, went to a Kevin Hart show with LMA before FA started, and met with Pau at the Olympics.

Some posters (with fishes in their Avis) think Green is more valuable to CP3 than Parker, one of his good friends, is :lmao

HOTS doing that dork Buford's work for him smh

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Bell isn't even close to the prospect that Draymond was. Terrible player comparison.

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:toast

Everyone thinks he's Ben Wallace or Wes Unseld but I don't see it.

I think he's a very good college player whose skills won't translate.

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Originally Posted by spursistan

:tu..

This expanding warriors-slurping krew on ST :lmao..


Having said that, I'm not going to deny that PATFO hasn't made any FA/trade transaction in the last 5 years that has come to even move the needle on court (The Diaw pickup was the last one-- Spurs probably wouldn't have won Thunder series without him).

So yeah, the front office have beeen overrated for quite some time-- some of it self-inflicted (loyalty etc..)..

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Exactly, Spurs made almost no moves since 2013 when the let Gary Neal go for Marco and then some other minor moves because the money was on Green, Mills, and Boris was 2.0, then Boris went to 0.5 and now Green and Mills regressed to the mean, so its time to get new players, they got what they wanted for a while.
I find funny how they put GSW as winners while they say they picked a turd...

¨Golden State used the pick to take Jordan Bell, a bouncy big man from Oregon who was slipping further than expected. Bell is undersized, can’t shoot and carries health concerns; but on the defensive end of the floor, he could hardly be better suited for the modern NBA. He can rebound and block shots. He can defend all over the floor. He can switch onto guards and handle pick-and-rolls. He’s exactly the type of player teams need to slow down the Warriors; instead, the Warriors swooped in for him themselves. It would not be at all surprising to see Bell getting real playing time in the 2018 NBA Finals¨

So he cant shoot and is well suited for the modern NBA also being undersized and with health issues? That hardly makes a winner.
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/AP...fe762655102ade


Yeah, loyalty contracts kill progress, but it seems Spurs are willing to get rid of lots of players this off-season.

From 2001 to 2012 GS had 11 lottery picks. They nailed two home runs and lucked into a great 2nd rounder. They used some of those whiffs to trade for complimentary players. Took advantage of a unique one time surge in cap space- combined with a desirable location to score a big time fre agent.

Spurs highest pick since 97 has been ?20 and rarely under 25, small market and an ownership without deep pockets. Before injuries, had a punchers chance with GS.

Based on this I'll give PATFO a benefit of the doubt on this pick, and see what else the off season holds.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

After this draft, Warriors FO are really light-years ahead.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Hate to say it, but its the truth.

Spurs had Jordan Bell in their lap and they pass to select a 6'5 Kyle Anderson w/ a better shot that has a back up PG ceiling. White won't be able to defend any position other than the PG. I'm just disgusted.. to be honest. Sure White was a great scorer in college like Marcus Williams was, but he doesn't have the athleticism to really excel in the NBA on offense and doesn't have the athleticism to be versatile on defense. I see him like I saw Roger Mason defensively.

All while, GS trades into the 2nd round to select the 2nd coming of Draymond w/ Jordan Bell. The player Spurs should have drafted. The type of player Spurs desperately needed. Jordan Bell will be able to play at the end of games because of how versatile he is defensively.

Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, Bell is not right.

I'm so pissed.

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For what it's worth.

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Originally Posted by Kurik

For what it's worth.

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Poor kid, the Warriors are due for the injury bug. It's like pulling for the black guy in a 80's slasher.

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Originally Posted by Maddog

From 2001 to 2012 GS had 11 lottery picks. They nailed two home runs and lucked into a great 2nd rounder. They used some of those whiffs to trade for complimentary players. Took advantage of a unique one time surge in cap space- combined with a desirable location to score a big time fre agent.

Spurs highest pick since 97 has been ?20 and rarely under 25, small market and an ownership without deep pockets. Before injuries, had a punchers chance with GS.

Based on this I'll give PATFO a benefit of the doubt on this pick, and see what else the off season holds.

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That small market without deep pockets barb is moot. This isn't baseball where the player goes to the highest bidder. There's a salary cap in place to keep small market teams relevant. If it weren't for the salary cap, San Antonio wouldn't have a team.

Jordan Bell tonight

5 points, 11 boards, 5 assists, 5 steals, 6 blocks

2nd coming of Draymond.

Ill never get over it. White hasnt been impressive. He'll be okay in Austin I guess.

The worst part is that we didn't even need guards. :lmao Bell was clearly going to be a steal at 29 and the Spurs blew it. Bell, Bolden, Thornwell, Evans, Bacon, Bryant, and others looked better than White did at 29.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Highest winshares in the team after Kawhi this potseason.. your boy mills was supposed to carry the offense since he's the microwave and his light bulb went out lol two seasons in a row
Last season Kyle was 22 and for so little involvtment he didn't have rhythm. How was he this season,? Yeah cry me a river

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Sa girl showing some nasty. I like it. :bobo

Sonics FO >>>>>>> Spurs FO

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

The worst part is that we didn't even need guards. :lmao Bell was clearly going to be a steal at 29 and the Spurs blew it. Hell, Bolden, Thornwell, Evans, Bacon, Bryant, and others looked better than White did at 29.

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Tell me about this hell guy. Is he good too?

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Highest winshares in the team after Kawhi this potseason.. your boy mills was supposed to carry the offense since he's the microwave and his light bulb went out lol two seasons in a row
Last season Kyle was 22 and for so little involvtment he didn't have rhythm. How was he this season,? Yeah cry me a river

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...06/oh-snap.gif

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Originally Posted by rastaspur

Tell me about this hell guy. Is he good too?

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:lol Damn it.

A lot of Bell's highlights are of him being a pompous showboating jackass. He doesn't belong on the Spurs, and definitely belongs on the Warriors.

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Originally Posted by sexinthatsx

A lot of Bell's highlights are of him being a pompous showboating jackass. He doesn't belong on the Spurs, and definitely belongs on the Warriors.

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Yup, the guy is a winner. Good fit for him there. At least we have Derrick White who will be gracious warming up the bench for 4 years

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

The worst part is that we didn't even need guards. :lmao Bell was clearly going to be a steal at 29 and the Spurs blew it. Bell, Bolden, Thornwell, Evans, Bacon, Bryant, and others looked better than White did at 29.

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You can add Semi Ojeleye as well.

Can't wait for the resident RC Buford fluffers to change history 4 years from now and tell us drafting at 29 was hit or miss and there wasn't a lot of good players left.

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

The worst part is that we didn't even need guards. :lmao Bell was clearly going to be a steal at 29 and the Spurs blew it. Bell, Bolden, Thornwell, Evans, Bacon, Bryant, and others looked better than White did at 29.

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Not sure about that list , the only thing that you're right is that we need more of a PF/C than a guard. You say we don't need guards but you talk about Thornwell , Evans, Bacon ?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

You can add Semi Ojeleye as well.

Can't wait for the resident RC Buford fluffers to change history 4 years from now and tell us drafting at 29 was hit or miss and there wasn't a lot of good players left.

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Ojeleye ? you guys are just overrating a lot of rookies.....

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Originally Posted by duncan2150

Ojeleye ? you guys are just overrating a lot of rookies.....

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All of the rookies I had ahead of White are doing good :lol you can add Frank Mason III as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOr2...&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5EwJ0dzFFE&feature=share

Meanwhile RC's last 5 first round picks are scrubbing it up so far. Livio, Milutinov, Fathead, Murray, White...

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

All of the rookies I had ahead of White are doing good :lol you can add Frank Mason III as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOr24LZEHK0&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5EwJ0dzFFE&feature=share

Meanwhile RC's last 5 first round picks are scrubbing it up so far. Livio, Milutinov, Fathead, Murray, White...

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GSW and OKC are the best in the game these days in drafting talent. GSW drafted Curry, Thompson and Green. OKC drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden.

Meanwhile Spurs keep missing out, Cojo instead of Butler, Livio (instead of buying down to get Gobert), 3 2015 draft picks all likely busts, Anderson instead of Jokic. Well Spurs have been better at developing players, decent ones but not stars.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

All of the rookies I had ahead of White are doing good :lol you can add Frank Mason III as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOr24LZEHK0&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5EwJ0dzFFE&feature=share

Meanwhile RC's last 5 first round picks are scrubbing it up so far. Livio, Milutinov, Fathead, Murray, White...

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We'll see during the SR

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Originally Posted by ceperez

GSW and OKC are the best in the game these days in drafting talent. GSW drafted Curry, Thompson and Green. OKC drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden.

Meanwhile Spurs keep missing out, Cojo instead of Butler, Livio (instead of buying down to get Gobert), 3 2015 draft picks all likely busts, Anderson instead of Jokic. Well Spurs have been better at developing players, decent ones but not stars.

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You can't compare teams who are drafting in the lottery to the spurs and Okc had a lot of bust like Huestis for example.
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