Spurs vs. Warriors FO

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Originally Posted by Russ

He looks like a poor man's Dejuan Blair.

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Uh, except with no offensive skill plus defensive skill.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

After this draft, Warriors FO are really light-years ahead.

Hate to say it, but its the truth.

Spurs had Jordan Bell in their lap and they pass to select a 6'5 Kyle Anderson w/ a better shot that has a back up PG ceiling. White won't be able to defend any position other than the PG. I'm just disgusted.. to be honest. Sure White was a great scorer in college like Marcus Williams was, but he doesn't have the athleticism to really excel in the NBA on offense and doesn't have the athleticism to be versatile on defense. I see him like I saw Roger Mason defensively.

All while, GS trades into the 2nd round to select the 2nd coming of Draymond w/ Jordan Bell. The player Spurs should have drafted. The type of player Spurs desperately needed. Jordan Bell will be able to play at the end of games because of how versatile he is defensively.

Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, Bell is not right.

I'm so pissed.

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You guys and your love for am offensive challenged player is funny.

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

Spurstalk losing their shit over a prospect that isn't even better than Kyle Anderson. :lmao

Spurstalk opinion of Kyle Anderson would be completely different if he played on GSW though.

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

Kawhi will go to Magic's Lakers

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:lol at this point it's obvious you're trolling

It's not about White vs. Bell

It's about GS having nothing more than any other team in the league to compete with and get a trade done. They went and got Bell when everyone else could but wouldn't.

That's where the Spurs are falling short.

The Spurs are behind, they're the ones trying to make up ground. They should be striking first, getting talent for $ is cost effective in the long run when the money is that contextually small. 3.5% equivalent of the cap to lock a player for several years at cheap money is the smart way to attack.

Kyle Anderson was a better and younger prospect when he was drafted. We should bump that draft thread to see how excited everyone was.

Well, only one FO signed this guy, so...

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

Well, only one FO signed this guy, so...

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by Ditty

Derrick White is fine, stop overreacting.

I liked Bell, but he has flaws also.

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Maybe a little overreacting :lol

I'm warming up to White, as I always usually do w/ who Spurs pick.

However, SA still had opportunity to get into 2nd round when Bell was there but they sat on their hands -- all while Warriors did what they had to do to improve their team.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Spurstalk losing their shit over a prospect that isn't even better than Kyle Anderson. :lmao

Spurstalk opinion of Kyle Anderson would be completely different if he played on GSW though.

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It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

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Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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:lol you just know the Spurs would have stayed pat if they won 73 games last year

Theyre fat and apathetic after all these years of success.

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

Did you really compare Bell with Draymond?

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Draymond was a 35th pick iirc, no one knew he'd become who he is.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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Exactly my thoughts.

Warriors reportedly paid $3.5 million for Bell.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Not right now. I was referring to how he projects if the work ethic is there.

Skill-set is very similar coming in -- potential is there. Bell can defend 5 positions, has a better stroke than Draymond did coming in. Both are monsters defensively.

You need defensive versatility in todays NBA. Spurs don't have that in the front court. They need it to get to the next level.

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They aren't that similar other than both being undersized (although Draymond's length and strength makes up for that) and good defenders.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

It's not just about the players, it's the principle..even after all their recent success, they've still consistently looked to improve their team every year, even something as trivial as buying a 2nd round pick..

They won 73 games, yet still recruited Kevin Durant to join them:lol

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They are good sure but Spurstalk is losing their shit over a lesser prospect than Kyle Anderson. Which is absurd because I think they lost their shit when we drafted Kyle Anderson.

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Originally Posted by 313

:lol you just know the Spurs would have stayed pat if they won 73 games last year

Theyre fat and apathetic after all these years of success.

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Most of Spurstalk would've blew the team up long before 2013. We would've never won in 2014 and never had the opportunity to win in 2013.

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Originally Posted by 313

Draymond was a 35th pick iirc, no one knew he'd become who he is.

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I'm not saying Bell won't be a good player or that he doesn't have potential but they aren't really the same type of player, other than both are undersized, good defenders with a good work ethic.

The knock against Draymond was that he was too small, not athletic enough and had limited upside/potential.

Draymond:

Strengths: The ultimate "Glue Guy", Green's strongest asset is his ability to contribute across the board ... He has a substantial wingspan with a strong frame, and is unafraid to bang with bigger bodies ... Good-looking shooter when his feet are set and he catches/releases in rhythm ... Can stretch the floor with NBA 3-point range ... His vision, passing and ability to facilitate out of the post make it difficult for off-ball defenders to keep their eyes on their man and the ball at the same time ... Reliable mid-range jumper ... Green is slippery with his back to the basket, with the ability to spin baseline or turn across the lane for the finish ... Terrific rebounder thanks to the combination of an aggressive motor and soft hands ... Unselfish and timely passer ... Overachiever. High basketball IQ ... Makes those around him better, possesses sense of maturity and leadership qualities ...

Weaknesses: One of those great college basketball players that doesn't excel in any one particular area ... Tweener, undersized for a physical forward yet lacks the athleticism of a wing ... Lacks explosiveness, agility, elusiveness and quickness off the bounce ... Under the rim finisher, which is troublesome when you consider his size ... Not a threat to shake his defender off the dribble ... Minimal upside ... Vulnerable defending quicker guards on the perimeter ... Could stand to drop some weight ...

Overall: The Big-Ten Player of the Year, Green has a number of likeable qualities, but not one specific skill that a team may be seeking ... He's a low-risk/low-reward pick considering his role-player potential and ability to fit in ... His ceiling dances around the mid-20s, where a playoff can use him right away to compliment its better players ...

I think people just don't want to play for Popovich and I don't blame them

GS's job is much easier, tbh. They only need to draft tall lanky players who can become halfway decent stopgap role players.

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

I'm not saying Bell won't be a good player or that he doesn't have potential but they aren't really the same type of player, other than both are undersized, good defenders with a good work ethic.

The knock against Draymond was that he was too small, not athletic enough and had limited upside/potential.

Draymond:

Strengths: The ultimate "Glue Guy", Green's strongest asset is his ability to contribute across the board ... He has a substantial wingspan with a strong frame, and is unafraid to bang with bigger bodies ... Good-looking shooter when his feet are set and he catches/releases in rhythm ... Can stretch the floor with NBA 3-point range ... His vision, passing and ability to facilitate out of the post make it difficult for off-ball defenders to keep their eyes on their man and the ball at the same time ... Reliable mid-range jumper ... Green is slippery with his back to the basket, with the ability to spin baseline or turn across the lane for the finish ... Terrific rebounder thanks to the combination of an aggressive motor and soft hands ... Unselfish and timely passer ... Overachiever. High basketball IQ ... Makes those around him better, possesses sense of maturity and leadership qualities ...

Weaknesses: One of those great college basketball players that doesn't excel in any one particular area ... Tweener, undersized for a physical forward yet lacks the athleticism of a wing ... Lacks explosiveness, agility, elusiveness and quickness off the bounce ... Under the rim finisher, which is troublesome when you consider his size ... Not a threat to shake his defender off the dribble ... Minimal upside ... Vulnerable defending quicker guards on the perimeter ... Could stand to drop some weight ...

Overall: The Big-Ten Player of the Year, Green has a number of likeable qualities, but not one specific skill that a team may be seeking ... He's a low-risk/low-reward pick considering his role-player potential and ability to fit in ... His ceiling dances around the mid-20s, where a playoff can use him right away to compliment its better players ...

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If Draymond Green played for any team but the Warriors, no one would know him. It seems that everyone who plays with the warriors are allowed to get away with the most blatant shit . David West was doing shit this year that was getting him quick fouls last year playing with us. Same with Pachulla. Green is among the league leaders in fouls and those are just the ones they call. Put Deaundre Jordan on the Warriors and his fouls would decrease by 25%. Every few years, the league picks a team they want to promote and let get away with everything. Remember some years ago when Lebron went 3 games straight without committing a foul? How the fuck does that happen?

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Originally Posted by james evans

If Draymond Green played for any team but the Warriors, no one would know him. It seems that everyone who plays with the warriors are allowed to get away with the most blatant shit . David West was doing shit this year that was getting him quick fouls last year playing with us. Same with Pachulla. Green is among the league leaders in fouls and those are just the ones they call. Put Deaundre Jordan on the Warriors and his fouls would decrease by 25%. Every few years, the league picks a team they want to promote and let get away with everything. Remember some years ago when Lebron went 3 games straight without committing a foul? How the fuck does that happen?

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I have said pretty much the same thing you have said which is Draymond is a ref reliant player. He relies heavily in getting away with hand checking on every possession, along with being able to commit illegal screens. Those skills are not transferable to a regular team. Anyways the Warriors are living rent free in a lot of these idiots heads including the the OP. They are a great team but they are not going to win forever. What a joke of thread this is since OP is screaming that the spurs didn't draft a scrub and the warriors got the scrub instead. ST needs to stop obsessing with them it's beyond pathetic even worse than when the Lakers were owning the Spurs during the early '00s.

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Originally Posted by eDizzle20

Warriors reportedly paid $3.5 million for Bell.

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Yup. Warriors are drowning in Silicon Valley money so they basically said F it, let's call every team and whichever team takes the offer of the highest allowable - which is what they paid - we'll buy into the draft.

I think the NBA should eliminate the ability to buy picks. I'm fine with money being sent in a player trade to pay some of their salary, but this goes against the spirit of competitive balance.

I'd be even more pissed if I'm a Bulls fan. Not like I'm in a small market. Owner just literally pocketed $3.5 million so he can pay it to Rondo to go away. Pathetic