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Re: Spurs vs. Warriors FO
This hasn't been a debate since 2014. Wouldn't even have PATFO in the Top 10 list of FOs anymore.
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Re: Spurs vs. Warriors FO
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Originally Posted by
timtonymanu
Bump.
Warriors making the small right moves while Spurs overpaid for 2 declined role players and a rookie who’s stuck on the bench as usual.
Spurs are missing 2 of their best players.
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Re: Spurs vs. Warriors FO
Randall Paul, Ru y Gay, Pauline Gasol, and the Mexican vacuum nose were great Golden State Warriors tonight.
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Re: Spurs vs. Warriors FO
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Originally Posted by
timtonymanu
Bump.
Warriors making the small right moves while Spurs overpaid for 2 declined role players and a rookie who’s stuck on the bench as usual.
:lol I didn't know adding Durant was a small right move. Warriors are unstoppable right now mainly because they added Durant. They haven't made any other great moves. Spurs did screw up Mills and Gasol signings.
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Why bother drafting a slow 23 year old combo guard when you're dead set on paying a fat declining 6 foot shooting guard 50 million?
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objective
Why bother drafting a slow 23 year old combo guard when you're dead set on paying a fat declining 6 foot shooting guard 50 million?
When you said "set to pay a Fat declining ___", I was thinking of 4 players.
That when you know your FO done shit the bed :lol
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tholdren
Spurs are missing 2 of their best players.
Parker hasnt been one of the best players in over 3 years. And no, a 6 game flash in a pan sample size does not count.
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Originally Posted by
objective
Why bother drafting a slow 23 year old combo guard when you're dead set on paying a fat declining 6 foot shooting guard 50 million?
If Spurs want to give themselves their best chance in May, they need to give Murray, Paul & Forbes opportunities over Patty. Regardless, with Mills in or out of the lineup, this team has a 2nd round floor w Kawhi. Play the players that have the higher ceiling now and hope they progress from now til May...without a huge trade ..that is their only hope.
Trade Patty for an expiring. Weve seen his best days already, hes all downhill from here
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
If Spurs want to give themselves their best chance in May, they need to give Murray, Paul & Forbes opportunities over Patty. Regardless, with Mills in or out of the lineup, this team has a 2nd round floor w Kawhi. Play the players that have the higher ceiling now and hope they progress from now til May...without a huge trade ..that is their only hope.
Trade Patty for an expiring. Weve seen his best days already, hes all downhill from here
Who would trade for the bum now? Not only is he fat, can't run an offense, and plays no D, but he can hardly shoot or finish at the rim anymore.
Worst part is that PATFO would never trade their beloved Patty anyway.
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Who would trade for the bum now? Not only is he fat, can't run an offense, and plays no D, but he can hardly shoot or finish at the rim anymore.
Worst part is that PATFO would never trade their beloved Patty anyway.
Patty and a 2nd to Minny for Aldrichs expiring + filler.
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
If Spurs want to give themselves their best chance in May, they need to give Murray, Paul & Forbes opportunities over Patty. Regardless, with Mills in or out of the lineup, this team has a 2nd round floor w Kawhi. Play the players that have the higher ceiling now and hope they progress from now til May...without a huge trade ..that is their only hope.
Trade Patty for an expiring. Weve seen his best days already, hes all downhill from here
You should add White to your list if players who should play ahead of Mills. I would move him ahead of Forbes.
I wouldn't be so sure of a second round floor. They barely got by a crippled Memphis in the first round last year. Now they have worse talent, missing Simmons and a worse Manu, worse Pau, worse Mills, worse Parker. One bad matchup and they're done.
I doubt Minny would take the crap Mills contract for Aldrich, maybe the Spurs would have to add a pick. I hope it would happen though.
Maybe in the summer a pick or two could get that last year of George Hill who is also playing poorly but still light years ahead of Mills. Can't really work this year because of the tax screwing up the amount the Spurs can take back.
I think I'd even be okay with sacrificing Murray to get off that Mills deal. It sounds bad, really bad. But Mills is that corrosive. Just start White and give Parker a Manu level deal to scrub around off the bench.
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If Patty isn't traded, he's playing over every guard not named Parker or Danny.
At this point in his career, Pop doesn't give a shit about best players who can produce. It's about tenure and who is being paid more to play. And he's gonna ride or die with those guys.
If they don't win, it won't bother him one bit.
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Pretty obvious there was zero analytical input/scouting that was taken into consideration when they broke the bank for these two turds-- just like any other dumb, antiquated FO operation..
Pop just signed two guys he could have a glass of wine with talking Catalonia separatism, aboriginal culture and other controversial issues in foreign lands.
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
This hasn't been a debate since 2014. Wouldn't even have PATFO in the Top 10 list of FOs anymore.
PATFO needs to go. With their decision-making, this team could be in deep trouble.
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spursistan
Pretty obvious there was zero analytical input/scouting that was taken into consideration when they broke the bank for these two turds-- just like any other dumb, antiquated FO operation..
Pop just signed two guys he could have a glass of wine with talking Catalonia separatism, aboriginal culture and other controversial issues in foreign lands.
Spurs culture.
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For a team short on versatile young bigs, he surely would've helped..PATFO should be embarrassed ..
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spursistan
For a team short on versatile young bigs, he surely would've helped..PATFO should be embarrassed ..
great pick, I would like to see Blossomgame in SA
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spursistan
For a team short on versatile young bigs, he surely would've helped..PATFO should be embarrassed ..
Wait till D White is averaging 8 pts, 3 rbs, 3 asts two years from now. Gonna be awesome.
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In all fairness their number one option was Kyle Kuzma before he was taken two spots above Derrick White
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Originally Posted by
spursistan
For a team short on versatile young bigs, he surely would've helped..PATFO should be embarrassed ..
Clearly didn't pick him because his brashness doesn't fit their precious culture.
Before anyone mentions Blair, that was 5 years before the '14 championship, after which they began to believe their own hype.
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Originally Posted by
r0drig0lac
great pick, I would like to see Blossomgame in SA
You and me both. Cut Brandon Paul and bring him up.
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Originally Posted by
r0drig0lac
great pick, I would like to see Blossomgame in SA
I'd also like to see the center kid Brimha up in San Antonio too. He could be like a Capela in Houston. A shot blocking rebounder. That cleans up around the hoop. It's better than jof.
Unfortunately pop thinks rookies need training wheels.
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Originally Posted by
TD 21
Clearly didn't pick him because his brashness doesn't fit their precious culture.
Before anyone mentions Blair, that was 5 years before the '14 championship, after which they began to believe their own hype.
I don't think that was it. There were no red flags regarding his character.
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Over the Past 5 games:
9 points, 6 boards, 3 assists 2 blocks, 1 steal per game in 24 mpg
For the Year:
Over 21 PER. LEADING the Warriors in Defensive RPM with 4.5, 2nd on the Warriors in BPM, 4th in VORP.
Fuzzy Lumpkins, Nathan89, Russ, Mr Body and others... might want to pay closer attention next time.
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
I don't think that was it. There were no red flags regarding his character.
I know, but to Spurs, brashness is a red flag and unlike Murray, Bell's is extroverted. He's too demonstrative and overt for their taste.
I heard Anunoby and him fell because they were flagged as possible long term medical risks. Makes sense, since it was obvious at the time that they both should have went much higher based on talent.