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Re: CP3 traded to Rockets
I don't think CP3 makes the Rockets that much better. The only reason they were regular season wonders is that Harden had the ball in his hands all the time. What's going to get better with Paul there?
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Another great move by West. Get a ton of role players (maybe 1 or 2 pan out plus Beverly) and a top 3 pick for Paul. Next thing ship Jordan out and get either more picks or package him with someone else for a 2nd/3rd tier star and build around him and Griffin. If Griffin stays healthy he is a top 5 player in the league. He can do everything - shoot, take guys off the dribble, pass off the dribble or out of pick and rolls, post up if he has to and obviously finish. If he's able to stay on the court and everything runs through him instead of CP3, look out. Just need a new coach.
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Originally Posted by
Down Under
Another great move by West. Get a ton of role players (maybe 1 or 2 pan out plus Beverly) and a top 3 pick for Paul. Next thing ship Jordan out and get either more picks or package him with someone else for a 2nd/3rd tier star and build around him and Griffin. If Griffin stays healthy he is a top 5 player in the league. He can do everything - shoot, take guys off the dribble, pass off the dribble or out of pick and rolls, post up if he has to and obviously finish. If he's able to stay on the court and everything runs through him instead of CP3, look out. Just need a new coach.
? It's a top 3 protected pick. And it's likely to be a late first rounder.
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DPG21920
They still have no edge of any team due to the CP3 trade in a PG trade. Murray is far greater than any asset they could offer. BOS has far better assets. Even Kevin Love is more valuable.
Melo, sure, but that is on the buyout market.
Boston has to show they are willing to actually use their assets since they have had them since forever and have done nothing with them. We shall see though maybe they finally cash in.
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MannyIsGod
I honestly don't understand why you go after a ball dominant player only to make him non ball dominant at this point in his career when that is his entire schtick. Its pretty obvious Paul just badly wanted out of LA. I wouldn't want the Spurs to have paid his Clippers opt in price anyway. Paul got what he wanted, his full contract and out of LA. I don't think this makes Houston a stronger team though.
:bobo
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Weird CO3 needs the ball and Hardon needs it even more
Terrible move by rockets imo
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hater
Weird CO3 needs the ball and Hardon needs it even more
Terrible move by rockets imo
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Totally agree with you Sir
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Originally Posted by
Down Under
Another great move by West. Get a ton of role players (maybe 1 or 2 pan out plus Beverly) and a top 3 pick for Paul. Next thing ship Jordan out and get either more picks or package him with someone else for a 2nd/3rd tier star and build around him and Griffin. If Griffin stays healthy he is a top 5 player in the league. He can do everything - shoot, take guys off the dribble, pass off the dribble or out of pick and rolls, post up if he has to and obviously finish. If he's able to stay on the court and everything runs through him instead of CP3, look out. Just need a new coach.
IDK about Top 5, but people are sleeping on Blake after two unlucky years with injuries. He has the green light now, he's not going to be held back by Choke-P's overdribbling and selfishness anymore. As long as he stays healthy, Blake will surprise everyone this year.
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Lesson here is that:
NBA stars all TALK about wanting that NBA title, and yet......
ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im getting disillusioned here......
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I bet the Spurs pondered something similar.
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Clipper Nation
IDK about Top 5, but people are sleeping on Blake after two unlucky years with injuries. He has the green light now, he's not going to be held back by Choke-P's overdribbling and selfishness anymore. As long as he stays healthy, Blake will surprise everyone this year.
I'm going top 5 cause there's such a massive drop off after the Top 4. I think a lot of his career has been wasted because CP3 is so ball dominant that he hasn't been able to showcase all his skills, which is neither of their faults. If he can just stay on the court, as you said he really is someone you can build around.
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shit chris paul,
if you dont want the Spurs, then fuck yah
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Salute to Jerry West if it's true that he didn't want to pay Paul the full deal, tbh..perfect timing to take power away from Tom Rivers..
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SilverSpur
That's great , now we can focus on George Hill and another star player.
Then we make sure to beat Houston next year. This is a blessing in Disguise.
This might work in our favor by Houston giving GS fits and tiring them out and then we come along with the knock out punch.
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Damn, were the playoff seeds for next year announced already?
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lol people - you were saying he was the best player yesterday and now he's just garbage lol
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SpurOutofTownFan
lol people - you were saying he was the best player yesterday and now he's just garbage lol
:lol the flip floppers are trolls brah
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NASpurs
I bet the Spurs pondered something similar.
Of course they did. I said at the get-go that CP3 was using the Spurs for leverage with the Clips because they were agonizing over this very issue - just as the Spurs had to be. Everybody on ST was just assuming Paul would be offered the supermax.
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HarlemHeat37
Salute to Jerry West if it's true that he didn't want to pay Paul the full deal, tbh..perfect timing to take power away from Tom Rivers..
I said all along that it was wrong to just assume that the Clips would offer a supermax deal to a player his age. The unforeseen consequences of this supermax deal are starting to be revealed.
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MannyIsGod
I honestly don't understand why you go after a ball dominant player only to make him non ball dominant at this point in his career when that is his entire schtick. Its pretty obvious Paul just badly wanted out of LA. I wouldn't want the Spurs to have paid his Clippers opt in price anyway. Paul got what he wanted, his full contract and out of LA. I don't think this makes Houston a stronger team though.
yep
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Paul knows point guards glitter in Pringles' offenses. He'll get to run around and rack up huge stats. Problem for the team is that Mike only gives the keys to one player at a time. I guess they can try to alternate, but one of the two becomes a young Joe Johnson from back in the Phoenix days, underutilized and not as dangerous as he could be.
The other appeal for Paul has to be the lack of defense. He won't have to exert himself on that side at all. (Hope he doesn't care when no one else does, either.)
He also gets cover for when the team craps out in the second round again.
Oh, and the Clippers had bad team chemistry with Paul - Griffin apparently hated him and he hated Rivers, etc. Houston already doesn't seem like it has great chemistry most of the time.
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Avitus1
They traded him for Patrick Beverly, Sam Dekker, Lou Williams, and a 2018 First round pick.
Rockets will regret this trade. They gave up scorer and a really good defender. Also, Harden played his best basketball playing PG last season. Now, Harden will be force to play his old position.
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jbspurs
Rockets will regret this trade. They gave up scorer and a really good defender. Also, Harden played his best basketball playing PG last season. Now, Harden will be force to play his old position.
I agree. Basically you're replacing touches for a near-MVP level player with touches of a somewhat less, but also very good player. D'Antoni's system has players stay in place while the playmaker pounds the ball to get certain shots and kick-outs. Paul, or Harden, is an increased risk in one of those spots, but is Paul worth the expense?
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jbspurs
Rockets will regret this trade. They gave up scorer and a really good defender. Also, Harden played his best basketball playing PG last season. Now, Harden will be force to play his old position.
Paul is a good defender
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bic50
Paul is a good defender
It's hard to be a good defender on a shitty defensive team.
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jbspurs
Rockets will regret this trade. They gave up scorer and a really good defender. Also, Harden played his best basketball playing PG last season. Now, Harden will be force to play his old position.
It may not work out for them, but I'm not sure they regret this trade. They're not really giving up too much for him. They already have their sixth man in Eric Gordon, and Beverly, while a decent defender doesn't give them consistency on the offensive end.
I'll even go as far as to say it's a low risk, high reward move for them.