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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
Slippy
Ya those are valid points that should pan out but couldnt the celts have waited it out, hoping the cavs are forced to make an inferior deal. At the same time weakning the celts main competition in the east.
Maybe. Or maybe Cavs used another deal as leverage. Ainge complained that every trade partner was asking for the moon because of all their assets. I guess he figured that he wasn't going to get this deal without the pick and a wing player. IT was unnecessary once they were getting Kyrie.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
Avitus1
Anyways, what y'all have for dinner?
Botana for two, mixed fajitas with flour tortillas
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
I don't think pop ever seriously considered adding a flat earther to the team.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
It sucks because I dont want LMAO on the team, on the other hand Boston gave too much, KI is not a leader and will never be, little Thomas is a leader and a really nice addition to Lebron´s Cavs.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
You guys are really overrating Kyrie if you think that's anywhere near an even trade. The Celtics got trade-raped.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
cd98
Maybe. Or maybe Cavs used another deal as leverage. Ainge complained that every trade partner was asking for the moon because of all their assets. I guess he figured that he wasn't going to get this deal without the pick and a wing player. IT was unnecessary once they were getting Kyrie.
Ya cavs having some sort of leverage does make the most sense. If they didnt, then the celts did the cavs a massive favour in ensuring their future. Plus doesnt this deal give lebron more incentive to stay.
If it was the spurs in the same situation , hard to see them helping out a rival like this.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
:lmao Nobody wanted Murray
Seriously, that's good deal for Cavs. Saves shitload of money and sets them post-LBJ-era nicely.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Both teams are weaker than GS tbh
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Was Boston going to let Thomas walk? if so then this seems to be a pretty great trade for both teams.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I think Boston won this trade. Irving is three years younger and they won't have to pay him $30 million a year like they would Thomas next summer. Thomas has bounced around the league a lot and just screams system player to me, like a lot of his success is due to playing for a top tier coach in Stevens. I see no way a lower tier coach like Lue is going to get anywhere near as much out of a limited player like Thomas. That's not the kind of player I want to be maxing out, especially at 5'9". Small point guards like Thomas age horribly too. Look as Isiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson, Allen Iverson. I would not want to pay that guy a five year max deal next summer, but that's what they'd have to do to keep him. Instead they got a better player who is younger and should age a lot better. I'd be much more comfortable maxing a three year younger Irving on a five year deal in summer after next when his game is dependent more on elite ballhandling rather than speed, and his size is much better.
agree 100%
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
vander
Was Boston going to let Thomas walk? if so then this seems to be a pretty great trade for both teams.
Problem was, that he is a fan favourit. Easier to trade for a better Player than to just not extent.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
So glad Kyrie is gone so we can put an end to this thread.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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callo1
So glad Kyrie is gone so we can put an end to this thread.
Jimmer getting cut didn't end his thread for months. :lol
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Kyrie, Haywood, and Horford with some young rookies is a really good squad. Plus they are good on salary for the next two - three years. I think they make a finals week in the East with that team.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
well at least this thread went from a truther's political rant back to a spurs suck fest. ST is consistent if nothing else.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
Slippy
Dont see much benifit to celtics on this one. They gave up alot. Cavs scored big-time.
It was nice to dream however.
They didn't have to overpay for IT. Good deal for both sides tbh
Hayward, Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford, Smart. Pretty solid team
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Thomas is too small
He would be the GOAT IN THE chinese league though
But his size shortcoming will be hiden by having Lebronze out there
He wont have to take all 5 opposing players like in the Celts
But no way Thomas is an upgrade over Irving. Its a downgrade but at least they got something back
More importantly Thomas is a spiritual leader and fan favorite. That will be even a bigger upgrade than what he can do on the court
Thomas/Lebron combo will be able to lead/will their team to the finals easily
But wont do a damn thing vs Golden Showers
On the other hand Boston will clearly be a better team with Irving. But will be missing their leader and identity and I dont think a disgruntled Irving will help
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
So in conclusion nothing has changed. Only an injury will prevent Durant from repeating
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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BillMc
Jimmer getting cut didn't end his thread for months. :lol
That was fed by Spurtacular... notorious troll ... that was exhibit A.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
I think Cleveland got the better end of the deal. Kyrie is better than IT, but IT did average 29pts a game. So he is still pretty good. The extras thrown in gave Cleveland the better overall end of the deal.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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vander
Was Boston going to let Thomas walk? if so then this seems to be a pretty great trade for both teams.
Boston knew Thomas was hot garbage. All teams do. That's why he's on his fourth team despite the hype.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
cavs certainly fared better than the clippers and thunder in regards to their respective trades.