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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
rjv
the longer this drags out the less cleveland gets back for irving. time only benefits the buyer.
Don't buy that. That's how Indy screwed up.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Cleveland cannot let this go on even to training camp. LeBron has said he'd probably fight Kyrie if he saw him. That's way too toxic of a situation to let develop. LeBron thinks that everyone marches to his tune, but Kyrie is taking a shit on that notion by determining his own destiny, and not going along with whatever LeBron is putting down. LeBron doesn't like it when his manipulation is exposed to daylight, and Kyrie pretty much just ripped down the curtain. Kyrie is in that same class of distressed asset as butler and PG13, and will return only pennies on the dollar like they did. It doesn't matter that he has two years left on his contract, and no no-trade clause. He has effectively pulled the pin on the trade grenade, and they have to get rid of him, or it becomes the only story for Cleveland this season, and LeBron won't have that. It would tarnish his image with the clueless public.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
cd021
Don't buy that. That's how Indy screwed up.
with PG? they were the seller though.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
cd021
Don't buy that. That's how Indy screwed up.
Indy didn't screw up at all. They knew PG13 was a distressed asset, so they set out to F him as hard as possible for causing that situation by conveying his Bird rights to a tiny market team in flyover country. Mission accomplished.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
rjv
with PG? they were the seller though.
Yep. Completely different situation.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
hater
Damn this thread started slowing down like Manu circa 2009 :lol
The Irving trade could take a long time... A lot of guys just signed can't be traded until December... he could be cancering things up with Lebron until then.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
BIG assumption.
:pop: "Kyrie hasn't gotten over himself yet. He will be ready to join the Spurs in about 10 years - unless his knees hold up."
:pop: We like what we have.
:pop: We are zigging while the league is zagging: basically we are going with an old (and injured with Rudy Gay and Tony) movement, while the league gets younger... Also we don't play our young players unless the roof is on fire and all hell broke lose. If they do well in that situation, we won't resign them. :lol
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
BillMc
All true.
It's funny LBJ being mad. How many teammates has he left in the past? Jilted a Heat team that had made 4 straight Finals including best pal Wade.
We could say Lebron is all about himself. then gets angry when a young player dares to have the same mindset he taught him.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
We could say Lebron is all about himself. then gets angry when a young player dares to have the same mindset he taught him.
Truth
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
rjv
i can't recall the last time i saw ST in such a full meltdown mode, and that's saying a lot.
then I don't know what you have been reading.
To me the meltdown over 12:01 50 million man Patty Mills deal was bigger. Once that deal went down, I knew the Spurs were standing pat. I couldn't and wouldn't hide my disappointment.
Now.. meh... at least I will get to watch Kyle Anderson (that was for the hate crew, got to give them a bone every once in a while... let them generate at least 20 posts about something else).
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Wonder if they'll pull the trigger.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
I wonder what is the purpose of the rule that you can't trade a newly signed player until Dec 15. Is it so a player who signs a FA contract at least gets to play part of the season where he wanted to play?
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
Seventyniner
I wonder what is the purpose of the rule that you can't trade a newly signed player until Dec 15. Is it so a player who signs a FA contract at least gets to play part of the season where he wanted to play?
Basically so you can't completely fuck over a player right after you sign him. You have to wait a few months, THEN you can fuck him over. Sort of a "no get out of jail fee card on an immediate buyer's remorse" rule.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
Lol the saltiness of NBA players these days.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
He probably got one one glimpse of these new uni's that look like college uniforms.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
Indy didn't screw up at all. They knew PG13 was a distressed asset, so they set out to F him as hard as possible for causing that situation by conveying his Bird rights to a tiny market team in flyover country. Mission accomplished.
Don't think there is any is any way to positively spin the return on PG-13. They took back Olidipo, a player who is likely to under perform his $84 million dollar price tag and Sabonis with no pick attached.
Meanwhile Portland reportedly offered 15, 20 and 26 and any other player not named C.J. and Dame. Indy could've added 3 picks to their own 18th pick in this years draft and could've used those picks to move up and nap one or even two lottery picks.
Indy would've probably finished this upcoming season as one of the five worst teams and gotten another lottery pick as a result. OKC not only got one of the best players in the league without giving up a pick but also got out of a bad contract too.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
rjv
with PG? they were the seller though.
Indy should've waited, the return they got was a joke.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
then I don't know what you have been reading.
To me the meltdown over 12:01 50 million man Patty Mills deal was bigger. Once that deal went down, I knew the Spurs were standing pat. I couldn't and wouldn't hide my disappointment.
Now.. meh... at least I will get to watch Kyle Anderson (that was for the hate crew, got to give them a bone every once in a while... let them generate at least 20 posts about something else).
i'm not sure why anyone really thought we were going to be that active anyway. there was really nothing to indicate that we were going to try to make room and without that room, we had no cap space. trades, of course, are a whole different matter. personally, i hope i see more from KA this year. he has some skills but he needs the moxie.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
cd021
Indy should've waited, the return they got was a joke.
they did get practically nothing. perhaps, his value would have peaked again around february but i still contend it's a buyer's market.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
Indy didn't screw up at all. They knew PG13 was a distressed asset, so they set out to F him as hard as possible for causing that situation by conveying his Bird rights to a tiny market team in flyover country. Mission accomplished.
LOL, it would be funny if they traded Irving to Sacramento, Utah, or Charlotte for the same reasons. Not like they're getting any decent offers anyways.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
LOL, it would be funny if they traded Irving to Sacramento, Utah, or Charlotte for the same reasons. Not like they're getting any decent offers anyways.
yeah that would be really funny since no good offers and as a spur fan I would want sa to win titles
him going to jazz would make that harder
you should move out of California it has effected your head
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
I'm at peace now that we have Gasol locked up. I don't care what Kyrie does anymore.
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Re: Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him
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Originally Posted by
ducks
yeah that would be really funny since no good offers and as a spur fan I would want sa to win titles
him going to jazz would make that harder
you should move out of California it has effected your head
You should move to fourth grade and learn how to spell.