Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

Just give us Kyrie already Gilbert. You know Spurs are the only shot of knocking off GS for you

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Perhaps Gilbert was trying very hard to send Kyrie to the Spurs, but RC just wouldn't let him. After all, the Spurs already committed $50 million to a defensively-challenged short-assed shooter.

The more time goes by the less I care about this trade. The one player to get was Paul George and the Spurs clearly didn't care enough to move around to get him, proven by the fact that he was got by a bag of shit. I don't even remember what OKC had to give up? Oladipo on an awful contract and Sabonis right?

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Originally Posted by ducks

I would think they would take lma to get rid of chandler
he will opt out

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Don't think LMA opting out of $22.5 is actually going to happen unless his agent gauges interest and some team is willing to offer something like a 3yr, $50 deal. I included a 2018 Spurs first as sweetner in my trade idea to give PHX a reason to be in the trade.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Cleveland cannot let this go on even to training camp. LeBron has said he'd probably fight Kyrie if he saw him. That's way too toxic of a situation to let develop. LeBron thinks that everyone marches to his tune, but Kyrie is taking a shit on that notion by determining his own destiny, and not going along with whatever LeBron is putting down. LeBron doesn't like it when his manipulation is exposed to daylight, and Kyrie pretty much just ripped down the curtain. Kyrie is in that same class of distressed asset as butler and PG13, and will return only pennies on the dollar like they did. It doesn't matter that he has two years left on his contract, and no no-trade clause. He has effectively pulled the pin on the trade grenade, and they have to get rid of him, or it becomes the only story for Cleveland this season, and LeBron won't have that. It would tarnish his image with the clueless public.

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Originally Posted by cutewizard

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Girl, think about how lop-sided this team would be, bringing in Kyrie, an all offense PG and losing two of our defensive stalwarts in LMA and Green.
I know that change is enticing and fun to go with, but I think that this team would be punting next year, getting Kyrie and hoping for some front-line add-ons in '18.

Look guys, everyone deserves second chances.....

I am reminded of Dennis Rodman, when he arrived at the shores of the Bulls universe

(Who would have thought that he would be accepted, and of course, he thrived)

Irving arriving at the Spurs Warren (borrowing Malazan mythology) would be such a thing, a second chance.

And then you have a mentor like Pop, and team. So...............

Lebron is a loser and so is kyrie. It is what happens when the owners cant control these idiots.

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Originally Posted by tonight...you

Girl, think about how lop-sided this team would be, bringing in Kyrie, an all offense PG and losing two of our defensive stalwarts in LMA and Green.
I know that change is enticing and fun to go with, but I think that this team would be punting next year, getting Kyrie and hoping for some front-line add-ons in '18.

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You have a point, good Sir, I worry about it myself....

However, lets put ourselves in the shoes of RC, if we are the GMs, we would probably be tempted right?

Kyrie is Kyrie, fans would love to watch him.

I watched this yesterday, so just wanna share it.....

On the topic of second chances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhaujNxohGw&t=574s

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Originally Posted by cutewizard

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You have a point, good Sir, I worry about it myself....

However, lets put ourselves in the shoes of RC, if we are the GMs, we would probably be tempted right?

Kyrie is Kyrie, fans would love to watch him.

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Very true, it will put butts in seats, but it won't bring us to even the WCF's this year, imo. The D will be bad. Really bad. Bad in the back-court and bad at the rim with only Kawhi in the middle.

I just don't want to put him in that kind of situation... Not only will they lose more, but Kawhi will get called out for his "slipping D" because of the sieves he has around him.

And this is just not a recipe for success. At all. Which has been proven time after time after time.

Great point wizard

Chances are Kylie will stay next to Leroids and easily win the east and get to their 3rd straight finals

Meanwhile Spurs will give 30 millions/3 years to Manus cousin

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Originally Posted by DAF86

The more time goes by the less I care about this trade. The one player to get was Paul George and the Spurs clearly didn't care enough to move around to get him, proven by the fact that he was got by a bag of shit. I don't even remember what OKC had to give up? Oladipo on an awful contract and Sabonis right?

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Don't forget Jimmy Butler. I guess Butler was a better fit for Spurs than PG13. That's why a trade involving Danny Green and other guys would have made sense. Also, Butler was traded for a bag of doritos.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Don't forget Jimmy Butler. I guess Butler was a better fit for Spurs than PG13. That's why a trade involving Danny Green and other guys would have made sense. Also, Butler was traded for a bag of doritos.

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Yeah, that shit was bad too.

I'm just curious if PATFO even made offers, or they were just like: "oh look, Jimmy Butler for a bag of shit. We might have had a chance".

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Originally Posted by cd021

Don't think LMA opting out of $22.5 is actually going to happen unless his agent gauges interest and some team is willing to offer something like a 3yr, $50 deal. I included a 2018 Spurs first as sweetner in my trade idea to give PHX a reason to be in the trade.

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Is he George hill agent?

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Originally Posted by cd021

Don't think there is any is any way to positively spin the return on PG-13. They took back Olidipo, a player who is likely to under perform his $84 million dollar price tag and Sabonis with no pick attached.

Meanwhile Portland reportedly offered 15, 20 and 26 and any other player not named C.J. and Dame. Indy could've added 3 picks to their own 18th pick in this years draft and could've used those picks to move up and nap one or even two lottery picks.

Indy would've probably finished this upcoming season as one of the five worst teams and gotten another lottery pick as a result. OKC not only got one of the best players in the league without giving up a pick but also got out of a bad contract too.

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Do you know that it was the Pacers that killed that, and not PG13 telling them he wouldn't stay? That's the whole distressed asset thing. It doesn't really matter what is offered if PG13 says no way.

It was reported pacers would not talk to sa

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Originally Posted by cd021

Don't think LMA opting out of $22.5 is actually going to happen unless his agent gauges interest and some team is willing to offer something like a 3yr, $50 deal. I included a 2018 Spurs first as sweetner in my trade idea to give PHX a reason to be in the trade.

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Spurs could push the issue by saying they're opening talks with Sacto on a salary dump. They threatened something like that to HWNMNBS to get him to opt out and re-sign cheaper.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Yeah, that shit was bad too.

I'm just curious if PATFO even made offers, or they were just like: "oh look, Jimmy Butler for a bag of shit. We might have had a chance".

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Yeah but the wolves had something we didn't, a lottery pick.

Whatever happens, it is pretty fascinating. I can't remember a perennial contender coming apart from the inside like this.
Whether we get Kyrie or not, I think Pop has been around long enough to get the people side of the league. My gut tells me that there will be a fortunate outcome from this for the Spurs eventually. I really wonder what Kawhi is thinking.

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

Holy shit Batum makes 10 mil more than kemba?? I'm guessing he signed that deal last year

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Batum's contract is one of the worst in basketball tbh.

Still wouldn't quite count the Suns out tbh, especially if it's a 3-team deal.

fwiw, Sportscenter showed the current Bovada odds for which team Kyrie will be on to start the season.

CLE 1-1
NY 4-1
PHO 9-2
BOS 13-2
DEN 9-1

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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred

Yeah but the wolves had something we didn't, a lottery pick.

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Did the Wolves traded a pick of this past draft or one of the future one?

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

fwiw, Sportscenter showed the current Bovada odds for which team Kyrie will be on to start the season.

CLE 1-1
NY 4-1
PHO 9-2
BOS 13-2
DEN 9-1

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Espn doing everything not to mention the Spurs

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Originally Posted by Seventyniner

fwiw, Sportscenter showed the current Bovada odds for which team Kyrie will be on to start the season.

CLE 1-1
NY 4-1
PHO 9-2
BOS 13-2
DEN 9-1

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Kyrie said he prefers the spurs and yet they're not on the list? Fuck off espn