Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

I'd do that trade in a second, but it's really hard to see the Suns prioritize dumping Chandler's contract over landing Irving if the Cavs cave on their demand for Jackson.

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Apparently they really like Josh Jackson because most other teams if they were in a similar situation would probably realize that trading the number 4 pick in the draft for a multiyear all star is a fair ask. If Phoenix holds on their resistance to including Jackson then I don't see the reason why the Cavs would deal Kyrie to them.

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Originally Posted by cd021

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

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That would leave Phoenix very thin at the pg position with Knight done for the season. It's debatable whether Ulis can be a full time starter and that would leave the newly acquired Kay Felder as the only available back up. Not sure why the Suns would pull the trigger on that deal.

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Originally Posted by dubross

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...iers-value-him

“So far, these are among the teams who've made offers to the Cavaliers for Irving, league sources tell ESPN: The San Antonio Spurs, LA Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Minnesota Timberwolves, New York Knicks and Miami Heat. There were approximately 20 teams that inquired with Cleveland upon the news of Irving's trade request, league sources said, but far fewer have registered legitimate proposals. More loom in the shadows, and many interested simply don't have the assets to make a deal happen.”

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I am glad to see at least the Spurs made a legit offer. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, but it wasn't bc they didn't make an offer or were not interested. :tu

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

Lol ST posters. :cry I bet pop and rc didn't bother to call :cry

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It's one thing to call, and another to make an offer. They have been active this summer trying to trade LMA (and Danny has been rumored in "some" trades too), so I guess it wouldn't surprise... but a very often cited argument by fans here is: the Spurs are always active but you never hear about it. No, the Spurs are quiet sometimes, and have been recently (as of the trade deadline, and last summer), which is as you said taking calls or making calls is due diligence, but no real offers or effort to actually move players or get someone. Getting a rumor that actual offers are being made changes the perception of how active they really are, vs just due diligence.

Looks like Heat have not made an offer to the Cavs

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Originally Posted by Spur|n|Austin

Looks like Heat have not made an offer to the Cavs

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So the ESPN story is inaccurate. Wondering which of those listed teams actually made an offer.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

A package of Winslow and Dragic is hardly solid. Justise hasn't been a good player, and Dragic is getting paid a lot and is on the decline. If that makes Cleveland pause, then this should wrapped up pretty soon, because all 20 teams reportedly interested could give them that.

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It doesn't make CLE pause. It's just MIA's way of putting some pressure the only way they can.

Dragic, despite the money which is irrelevant to CLE really is a solid player. I agree Winslow isn't great but he's young enough and that is the type of deal CLE likely will get

3 months from now: "Spurs never made an offer to the Cavs" when Kyrie was traded for peanuts. Spurstalk meltdown ensues.

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I cannot imagine why Cleveland would trade Kyrie Irving, regardless of what he or Lebron or anyone else thinks.

It could be the opportunity of a lifetime for some team if Cleveland is foolish enough to do it.

Forget about aging and underachieving Chris Paul or any of the others, this would be huge.

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Originally Posted by poop

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Almost lad

Lol horrible offer

Nope.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

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People forget Melo was amazing during Denver's WCF run. He looked like a Top 5 player that year and then was like Top 3 in MVP voting his first (or second?) year in NY. I don't think Kyrie has shown enough as a #1 to warrant the type of deal Denver got for Melo.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

People forget Melo was amazing during Denver's WCF run. He looked like a Top 5 player that year and then was like Top 3 in MVP voting his first (or second?) year in NY. I don't think Kyrie has shown enough as a #1 to warrant the type of deal Denver got for Melo.

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Melo’s trade I believe was like 13 player three 3 team trade. Nuggets got Gallinari, Chandler, Felton, Mozgov. 1st rd pick and 2 2nd picks.

You right Melo then was better than Kyrie now

melo wanted out but the cavs deal is public james wants to kill kyle
so you think cavs will get more then melo
lol

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Originally Posted by FkLA

People forget Melo was amazing during Denver's WCF run. He looked like a Top 5 player that year and then was like Top 3 in MVP voting his first (or second?) year in NY. I don't think Kyrie has shown enough as a #1 to warrant the type of deal Denver got for Melo.

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Sure, back then he was a good bet for the Knicks, CF in the West, funny how after that he had troubles to get a Eastern Conference spot missing playoffs almost every time, but was bigger than Kyrie nonetheless.

Really hope the Spurs front office are at least attempting to brew something up to aquire Kyrie. But like I said, the Spurs luck to get under 30 prime superstars, whether through free agency or trade, has been pretty much nil in its entire history. We are fortunate that Kyrie has even mentioned the Spurs as a preference.

Seems like the Cavs want a kings ransom for Irving. They might be waiting a while.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Forget about aging and underachieving Chris Paul or any of the others, this would be huge.

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Yeah I would have loved to have signed Paul, but I would completely gut the team to get Irving playing alongside Kawhi. Especially considering the Spurs only real prospect right now is Murray and Aldridge seems to be out the door next summer.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

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Wow, Spurs are actually trying, nice to hear