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If we are going to purge our town of names of slave owners and those who advocated and advanced slavery we have to start at the top. Bexar County, San Antonio, and even the Alamo were named after a notorious slave owner. As viceroy he oversaw the subjugation of hundreds of thousands of slaves.
Hmmm. Guess Valero will have to change their name back to Shamrock.
Okay, sounds good.
Just traitor statues and schools. Stop crying.
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Originally Posted by Pavlov
It was never about them being traitors.
I'm not crying, snowflake. Just making an observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Correct, the statues weren't erected because they were traitors. They were erected to stick it to the blacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
You're being sensitive and passive aggressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Wave bye-bye.
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Did you shed a tear, CC? Darrin?
No. I can think its as dumb as the snowflakes who advocate it but I'm not particularly emotional about it.
You're sensitive enough to start a passive aggressive thread about it, ma'am.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Lets just change all the school names to PS-1, PS-2, PS-3 etc and be done with it. Cheerleaders can wave their pompoms and yell "go pissers!!!"
Just pointing out the lack of rational thought from snowflakes like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
My pretty conservative hometown had place names for the high schools. Looks like a good way to go tbh. The naming of things after people borders on fetish.
You're just being pissy and resentful and it's hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Be a man.
Just saying our fucking city is named after a vicious slavery promoter. Where exactly does it stop?
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Looks so much better already. And San Antonians still know the Civil War was a thing!
So emotional. :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'm fine with working on the traitors first. I'm glad the larger conversation pisses you off tho. Reassuring.
And btw I think the Austin government is not being strong enough in condemning the vandalism of the Lee and Davis street signs up here. The process to change them has already started. Quit being dicks.
Meh, pissed off is a little strong. Just think you snowflakes are stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
:lol CosmicSnowflake be melting down over Johnny Reb losing place his place of honor.
It's gonna take more than a few guys to take this one down.
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You're the one starting passive aggressive threads about it, ma'am. But if your only problem is you think some people are stupid, you don't really have a problem with all the changes themselves -- so thanks for your tacit approval.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
so it is ok to change a lot of things just because some one is offended?
do we vote on the names now and put them in place?
where does the SUPIDITY stop?
When did he secede, Darrin? I was under the impression he was dead quite a long time before the Civil War.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Lmao whining about changing names and taking down statues is less snowflakey than whining about the names or statues. Oooook
While we are at it, Sam Houston owned slaves. Should we change the name of Houston to Laketown?
Well, yeah -- we do vote on the names indirectly. Elected representatives and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Why are you so offended by simple name changes?
All of statues being taken down are Confederates. Now we have the resident dimwit club trying to expand what is being taken down so as to change the narrative.
This of course is the same narrative being bandied around by alt-right media. Dimwit is as dimwit does.
Jefferson not only owned slaves, he literally fucked them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
It's never been about being traitors. It's about slavery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
cost billionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
maps change of addresses
updating gps devices
lots involved
Staunch unionist. Complete opposite of a traitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Sam Houston rebelled against Mexico not the Union. Do try and keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The issue is not that they were slavers the issue was they rebelled when it came time to end slavery.
If Hillary won it would have been down already. Cinco De Mayo would have been a national holiday. Trannies would have yada yada yada too lazy to finish out this postQuote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Luckily we whities won though and we get to hold off on the minorities and SJWs completely ruining our lives for a few years yet. Pretty relieved myself
You struggle to speak for yourself. You don't get to define your political opponents. If it was about only slavery then you would see people looking to do what you are claiming.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Instead the issue is the people that rebelled to preserve slavery. I get that nuance is tough for you but you're being pretty obtuse on this issue and showing a lack of independent thought.
When was he a traitor?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The confederate statues and place names are about sticking it to the blacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Billions?Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
You're going to have to provide some evidence it would cost billions. And if that's your only complaint, it's a decidedly weak one. Names change and maps and GPS devices are constantly updated regardless.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Pretty fine line. They owned humans as property. Slippery slope and all that.
The Jefferson Memorial was not erected to show uppity DC blacks that whitey was still in charge, so find another Hannity talking point, Darrin.
No it's not. They are confederates. The line is the one between confederate and not confederate.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Confederates are people that rebelled when slavery was coming to an end. The KKK and similar white supremacists erected statues celebrating them in the early twentieth century. Those are the ones being taken down.
Italian Americans are better off erecting a statue of John Gotti.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
lol CC and Darrin keep wanting to move the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
CC and Darrin, give us the positive reasons you want to keep all the confederate statues and place names.
why do you want to change history
You know what, Austin took all the confederate statues out of the mall at UT and I still know there was a civil war!Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
It's amazing.
I will go so far to say that even people in places with no confederate statues or place names at all know there was a civil war -- and that absence changes history not a whit.
It IS pretty fucking white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Lemme check Netflix real quick....
Yep, Ken Burns is still there ready to history things up!
The color of the monument? I'm not getting your point, snowflake.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Humorless little bitch, aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
And hilarious,you calling me snowflake, snowflake.
Well there's a couple of ways to take your sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
It's your passive aggressive thread, snowflake.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Just because people don't think you are funny doesn't mean they have no sense of humor. Your joke was shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I like the conversation, but you're moving the goalpost again and avoiding my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Do you have any positive reasons to keep the confederate monuments and place names, Darrin?
You too, CC.
I find your parsing of morality humorous and your tacit approval of slave owners in this thread even funnier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
:lol I find your complete avoidance of my question the funniest thing of all.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Go ahead, give us all your positive reasons for keeping the confederate monuments and place names.
:lol tacit approval
Your words chumpdumpster. You dont have any beef with slave owners, just actual participants in the civil war.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
That's not meQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I said take care of all the traitors first. That's the easy one. Then we'll have the other discussions.Quote:
You dont have any beef with slave owners, just actual participants in the civil war.
My words.
Yale got rid of Calhoun name. Students at Princeton tried and failed to remove Woodrow Wilson name.
Det goalpost move again. Actually a totally different goalpost -- private schools :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Do you have any positive reasons to keep the confederate monuments and place names, Darrin?
Yeah, confused tou with pavlov.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Great, now that we got that clear: Do you have any positive reasons to keep the confederate monuments and place names, CC?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I mean I can think of several positive reasons to keep Houston and Jefferson stuff -- but anything else those confederates may have done is overshadowed by, you know, the treason.
I have no reasons to keep them or get rid if then. I do think the snowflake hysteria against them is just a further sign of the pussification of the US like safe spaces, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
So removing vestiges of overt racism from public places of honor is "pussification"?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
:lol
I call bullshit. You wouldn't get this worked up just for that.
Jeffersons place in history extends far beyond slavery. He penned the declaration of independence. Was big on religious freedom. Was our first secretary of state. Powerful advocate for states rights and co-founded the party to oppose federalists. He orchestrated the Louisiana purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
His impact on our history extends so far beyond slavery that it's entirely disingenuous to throw him into the discussion. Robert E Lee is primarily known as the general of the Confederacy who's primary purpose of existence was the preservation of slavery.
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Are you sure you weren't one of the guys "guarding" the statue Wednesday with guns but were foiled by the park curfew?
Im not worked up, faggot. Im trolling a bunch of snowflakes out of boredom this afternoon. 4:30 and my happy ass is out the door heading for the lake and you faggots will have this shithole to yourselves again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
It would be pretty awesome to have a Sally Hemings presence somewhere in the Jefferson Memorial and some context explaining their relationship, such as it was, and the fact that Jefferson's blood flows through African Americans to this day.
40 foot statue of anonymous confederate but up by white women when blacks couldn't vote? That can go.
:lol We can always tell you're angry when you try to big time us for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Did I enter a time vortex and come out three weeks ago when this was a relevant topic and statue fetishists hadn't run out of arguments yet?
I'm gloating since SA took down the statue in Travis Park. Darrin reposted a YouTube and CC said he's jes' trollin' faggots and not mad at all. He also has a boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
No big time, just fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
It's a fact you do this every time you get pissed off.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Actually it was changing the name of Lee high school that got my attention today. My kids went there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
Yeah you sound completely not worked up and happyQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Well, its ok if you want to declare victory by thinking you "pissed me off" you need something in your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Austin already changed their school named after Lee from Lee Elementary to -- Lee Elementary.
Photographer Russell Lee.
See, you're trying to big time again. It's no victory for me -- it's just a hilarious tell from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Yuma needs to change lots of names to
lots of Mexican names:downspin:
Oh, okay. I hadn't heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
But you're not worked up about it so that's good.
Sorry chumpdumpster. I confused you with the kids again because of your juvenile posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Well, you admitted you really don't have a problem with changing the name, but you think getting rid of vestiges of racism from places of honor is somehow "pussification."Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Also faggot shithole lake mommy.
I'm not expecting you to explain much more after you totally didn't get angry.
And actually your kids didn't go to high school at Lee because now that they've changed the name it means there was never a Lee High School. I hate when history get erased...
I'm not sure he can say he fathered any children at all now. He'll have to present his case to the BLM/Antifa/ISIS triumvirate for a ruling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
This is what I was getting at about you struggling with speaking for yourself. You really suck at speaking for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I have no issue with the Union side of the war. I do take issue with Johnny Reb though. They tore the country apart so they could keep their slaves and saw over 600k people die as a result of it. They deserve no honor whatsoever.
I do find it amusing that you struggle to support the works of 20th century white supremacists because you lack the capacity to think for yourself though. Those are the ones who erected the lion's share of those statues and monuments.
If you are so intent on history being preserved, you should look into the Jim Crow south and what precipitated the erection of those monuments you are so intent on keeping around.
The seeds of the civil war were sown by the original country founders kicking the slavery issue down the road. The "add one slave state for every non slave state" bullshit perpetuated for the next 75 years just inflamed the issue.
It was a young, fragile union of states that broke up over the slavery issue and for the most part people just went with their state because they had more loyalty to tbe state than they did the federal government. You faggots trying to paint everyone that doesnt have their panties in a wad over civil war statues as racists disgust me.
Still no reasons for pro statue I seeQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
As long as you aren't worked up about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
You're the one saying changing the name that elevates a racist past is "pussification" -- you need to explain why.
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Why dont you explain how tearing down a statue changes history. I dont think you will find a single person in 2017 that says slavery is good but shit happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlov
Nobody says it's changing history. That's a falsehood that you whiny ass alt-right pussies throw up to cry about stupid statues being taken down.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
It's giving a middle finger to shitty history, if anything.
The only people saying it changes history are the ones who don't want them taken downQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
It was a real suggestion. Nobody is perfect and no matter who you choose to name a school after there would be something in their life they said or did that would be offensive to someone. This shit is getting ridiculous. Just number rhe fucking schools and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Alt-rightQuote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
:lmao
Jesus, what a conditioned fucking snowflake. Anyone that challenges your pussy ass perception of the world is "alt-right".
But most people that have schools named after them did something that made a positive impact on our society.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
All Lee did was lead the charge for the Rebels.
This isn't hard to get.
That's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Anybody who is willing to whine and cry like a pussyass bitch over Confederate statues is alt-right. Deal with it, faggot.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Reasonable people: "N!gger is an offensive word."
Unreasonable idiots: "Fine, why don't we just ban words?"