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10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by TSA

A very narrow theory if you want to call it that. I don’t have a theory on his motive.

What actual evidence makes you think he is leftist?
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

I'm sure eventually people will find reasons to believe he was a leftist while other people find reasons to believe he was a conservative. Or failing that, they'll just make shit up like they always do, and plenty of people will go along with it because thats what they want to believe.

But none of it matters as much as his access to a ridiculously large arsenal of ridiculously powerful weapons and his ability to use it before he was caught.

No, it's his ability to go up 32 floors.
10-05-2017
clambake

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my theory is that he hates people.
10-05-2017
DMC

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

My guess is he had more than one fantasy and if he somehow got out of the hotel he could go on with one involving bombs. OTOH he had a few days to plant it if it was part of the window shooting; maybe he just didn't find a good spot. He had to change plans before.

You put ammonium nitrate with tannerite, you're creating a bomb. The car was the bomb. He just needed to shoot it. That's assuming the binary had been mixed.
10-05-2017
DMC

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

What actual evidence makes you think he is leftist?

He was with a non-white woman.
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by DMC

You put ammonium nitrate with tannerite, you're creating a bomb. The car was the bomb. He just needed to shoot it. That's assuming the binary had been mixed.

I read in several sources the fertilizer was in the car and the Tannerite at his home, so I'm not sure if he just forgot something or the fertilizer was just part of another contingency.
10-05-2017
DMC

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

I read in several sources the fertilizer was in the car and the Tannerite at his home, so I'm not sure if he just forgot something or the fertilizer was just part of another contingency.

Lots of people have tannerite, You can buy it online and have it shipped. It's not illegal to transport until its mixed. 50lbs is a lot, but not an absurd amount if it's still in the binary form. If he mixed it, that's the tell tale. If not, he's just a gun nut with binary explosives.
10-05-2017
DMC

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There's also the possibility that the dude was trying to make his own binary explosives. He had half the ingredients in the ammonium nitrate.
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by DMC

Lots of people have tannerite, You can buy it online and have it shipped. It's not illegal to transport until its mixed. 50lbs is a lot, but not an absurd amount if it's still in the binary form. If he mixed it, that's the tell tale. If not, he's just a gun nut with binary explosives.

I haven't seen any such details, so barring new ones I'm just going with an aborted/secondary plan for explosives.
10-05-2017
TSA

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https://mobile.twitter.com/rcallimac...98590153129984

NYT reporter covering ISIS since 2014 saying not to dismiss ISIS claim quite yet
10-05-2017
Pavlov

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Well ISIS can clear this up pretty easily if they want to claim det credit.
10-05-2017
spurraider21

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by TSA

https://mobile.twitter.com/rcallimac...98590153129984

NYT reporter covering ISIS since 2014 saying not to dismiss ISIS claim quite yet

NYT is fake news
10-05-2017
TSA

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

Well ISIS can clear this up pretty easily if they want to claim det credit.

?
10-05-2017
TSA

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

NYT is fake news

Marriage has taken a toll on the quality of your posts
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by TSA

?

They can give some details on the "conversion."
10-05-2017
spurraider21

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Originally Posted by TSA

Marriage has taken a toll on the quality of your posts

yay personal life talk
10-05-2017
TSA

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

yay personal life talk

And?
10-05-2017
TSA

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

They can give some details on the "conversion."

Do they normally do that in their magazine after claiming a convert pulled off an attack? According to the reporter they rarely make false claims.
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by TSA

Do they normally do that in their magazine after claiming a convert pulled off an attack? According to the reporter they rarely make false claims.

But they have and this is the worst shooting in modern US history with enough of an information vacuum that's incredibly easy to fill with newsletters or message board posts or YouTube videos. Why pass up that opportunity?

The crime itself doesn't seem too ISIS-y and I'm sure all his communications are being reviewed. ISIS is also free to drop more details too if they have them.
10-05-2017
Spurminator

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Yeah no reason for ISIS not to release all of their information as proof. Doing so only helps their cause. They haven't had to do it in the past when their claims have been confirmed by intelligence. It's different here because there is legitimate skepticism.

We'll see.
10-05-2017
TSA

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

But they have and this is the worst shooting in modern US history with enough of an information vacuum that's incredibly easy to fill with newsletters or message board posts or YouTube videos. Why pass up that opportunity?

The crime itself doesn't seem too ISIS-y and I'm sure all his communications are being reviewed. ISIS is also free to drop more details too if they have them.

I don’t follow ISIS messageboards. What have you read on their message boards?
10-05-2017
TSA

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Yeah no reason for ISIS not to release all of their information as proof. Doing so only helps their cause. They haven't had to do it in the past when their claims have been confirmed by intelligence. It's different here because there is legitimate skepticism.

We'll see.

I don’t keep track of what they do/don’t do after claims just found it interesting for this lady to say pump the breaks on dismissing it.
10-05-2017
Spurminator

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Originally Posted by TSA

I don’t keep track of what they do/don’t do after claims just found it interesting for this lady to say pump the breaks on dismissing it.

It was an interesting thread, I read it earlier today. I'm still skeptical but ultimately undecided until it's confirmed.
10-05-2017
TSA

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If it was ISIS inspired what are the odds the public would be told? No reason to boost ISIS cred.
10-05-2017
Pavlov

Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by TSA

I don’t follow ISIS messageboards. What have you read on their message boards?

I am talking about any message board. ar15.com filled the vacuum. Facebook and YouTube shitposts filled the vacuum. Alex Jones filled the vacuum. We're filling the vacuum with our speculation, myself included. I just take my speculation and that of others with a grain of salt.

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