He's at least trying to finish at the rim now & it was working the first few games, but without young TP finishing and quickness & a jumper, it's not going to happen consistently. And that floater ugggh.
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He's at least trying to finish at the rim now & it was working the first few games, but without young TP finishing and quickness & a jumper, it's not going to happen consistently. And that floater ugggh.
I don't judge without our superstar.
No, it does not. That's why I advocated trading him during free agency. If you want to keep Kawhi, IMO, the Spurs should be focusing on players that match his timeline. J. Simms was one of those players and they let him go. I really wonder what Kawhi is thinking about this team right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Also, good points about those other PGs. They were all hyped/thought of highly coming into the league, but it seems their flaws haven't allowed them to develop into the players people thought they could be when they were drafted.
You're a f'ing twat. What if Kawhi is out longer than expected, or out later in the season again? The Spurs might not make the playoffs if he has to miss significant time. Should you ignore a flawed roster just because a Superstar player isn't playing. Dumbest shit I've ever heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
The best team in the NBA is loaded with talent, but it's OK for the Spurs to play with one Superstar, expect him to do it all and have a chance at the Championship with him having carry that massive workload?
You can shove your "I don't judge without our superstar" up your ass and up the Spurs FO's asses.
This is his new schtick to try and deflect criticism away from his fatboy, Flabby. Do you think he'd have this same approach if Parker was out there shooting 31% from the field instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
He's a SG in a PG body. But if he works with Crawford he will develop some sick handles
Well put, and pretty much sums up my thoughts about the team in general. At the end of the day Kawhi shouldn't have to be the LeBron of the West and carry a team of scrubs to a title. How long can his knees/quads/ankles take that? Do we really want that for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
If only he had a little help and PATFO didn't give out crazy cash to guys out of loyalty that can't play when it matters...And - no - a 40 year old 6th man, a fat backup PG who doesn't defend or make plays, an ancient Spanish statue at C, and an unclutch empty stats player like LMA don't count as "help" when you have to get through the Western Conference.
That's the funny thing. I made a comment on one of Jabari Young's tweets that had Murray's twitter account tagged on it. I said something to the effect that he needed to let his game talk for him and not his mouth. Apparently he didn't like that. Shit, Don Harris blocked me too. No profanity, no personal insult. I commented that Steve Kerr was arrogant and that KD was filled with weak sauce for joining up with the Warriors. Harris had done some sort of commentary on how we were supposed to admire the Warriors for what they accomplished - doing it with class...blah blah blah. Harris is full of shit too.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Harris melted down once after I pointed out how he has no real sources, never breaks any news, and rips from other legitimate journalists. You'd think a guy with a gig like his wouldn't care what others think as much as he does but nope. He's fragile as hell. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
me...i remember the growing pains...manu tossing the ball everywhere with his "streetball" style that some bash Murray for...then they grew into HOF players...but i digressQuote:
Originally Posted by TheChillFactor
Murray isn't great protecting the ball, but he's much, much better than last year -- trending in the right direction.
Kawhi also likes him and that might be important down the road.
But COUNTDOWN CREW'S Ba Ba Billups says he has all-star caliber potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
While Murray isn't all the way ready -- he's still the best option this team currently has in regards to ceiling. I think everyone is really honed in on his negatives or inconsistencies -- as he's under the spot light. It's like during his recent sub-par outings as a scorer, fans are highlighting his negatives even though he's making solid decisions with the ball in PnRs (IMO). I personally think he needs to attack the corner harder on PnRs instead of consistently hesitating, looking over his shoulder because he's so focused on getting others involved in Pick and Pops ( LA) or just distributing the basketball. His turnovers are happening when he attacks into traffic when the numbers aren't there --- but he's getting better at pulling it back. Fans are magnifying his TOs or making them seem worse than they are ( He's still only avg. 2 TO's a game -- like Patty except DJ has higher usage rate). I think he's done a better job than people are saying -- not saying he's done great.
Kid barely has any experience and he's already a better option than Patty
Sure, Murray has a far higher ceiling than Fitty Mills or Parker, but Mills is what he is: a streaky shooter and not much else, while Parker is clearly on the decline. Murray wins that almost by default.
The problem with Murray is that he has the lowest floor of the three. Mills has a more narrow skillset, but at least missed FGs can be rebounded while TOs leading the other way are much worse.
Start DWhite if Murray sucks when Kawhi's back. His inner confidence would be shattered tho.
The problem with Murray is he doesn't know what his "game" is yet..he's got the size and tools etc but just doesn't know how to play. He's gotta perfect a certain skill whether that be a "floater" which imo looks like his plan.
Or develop a consistent 18fter coming around a PNR. It could maybe become a corner 3? Or catch and shoot 3? But the problem is he's soooo far from reaching those skills he needs to become an elite finisher at the rim..keep attacking the paint at will.
He needs the Tony Parker rookie year treatment. Throw him in the fire at every opportunity, but pull him out and give him the hairdryer treatment for every mistake... He needs to work on his skills desperately - as noted both his handle and his jumpshot - but the only way that will come is with time...
Tony Parker didn't act like some hot potato who thought he was the shit. Murray struts around like he's the second coming of Kobe Bryant and what he could really use is a lesson in humility off the court because he ain't that good. He looks like he took a step back from last year. What the hell did he do all summer?Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/f7...c2ea7bcef9.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
He should focus on defense first. He has the tools to become a great defender.
You don't know that. We didn't have social media back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
EXACTLY this!Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Why do u think Murray turns the ball over more though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
I like murrays confidence... Most championship teams have at least one cocky player... And that usually helps in moments where things are tight and ppl are scared to shoot