Astonishing FAILURE: Patty Mills first 8 games of the 17-18 season

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Originally Posted by tholdren

That looks.like pacman

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Or the black lady from ghost busters

I'd love a lowlights video ala Bootum on YouTube.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

The foundation that you and others have been bitching about lately

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Patty is the foundation?

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

If it were me, I'd ship Patty asap and free up minutes for Paul, Murray, Forbes. Then see which players make progress from now til May and stick with that player or player(s).

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:lol trade patty is going to be the new trade porker

Either way it's an overpaid out of shape point guard who nobody wants to trade for and PATFO would never trade them anyway

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Patty is the foundation?

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No. You tell me what the "strong foundation" is...

You've been bitching about PATFO for awhile now..let's not pretend Patty is your only issue

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

No. You tell me what the "strong foundation" is...

You've been bitching about PATFO for awhile now..let's not pretend Patty is your only issue

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Put me on your next podcast and I'll be glad to discuss.

Been tuned out of the season thus far, since it's impossible to gauge this team until the big dog gets back, but just looked up what the microwave is doing. 4.39 PER :lol

Love ya, Patty, but what the fuck?

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Put me on your next podcast and I'll be glad to discuss.

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Lmao I don't do that anymore..

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MVPatty is back...... Hahahaha, deep down you all knew it was coming :lobt2:

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Originally Posted by 99 Problems

MVPatty is back...... Hahahaha, deep down you all knew it was coming :lobt2:

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1 good quarter is not being back

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Originally Posted by RD2191

1 good quarter is not being back

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absolutely...
But I will take this win. :toast

Now Patty is getting better and Fathead is getting back to his 90 year old POS form.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

1 good quarter is not being back

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Same story every time...Guy shits the bed 8 games in a row and it's a "small sample size". Then he has one good quarter and suddenly "he's back!" :lol

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

Same story every time...Guy shits the bed 8 games in a row and it's a "small sample size". Then he has one good quarter and suddenly "he's back!" :lol

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:lmao
I can't blame guys for taking the small encouraging signs. Spurs needed to start winning games and they were not going to do it with 50Mills playing trashball.

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

Same story every time...Guy shits the bed 8 games in a row and it's a "small sample size". Then he has one good quarter and suddenly "he's back!" :lol

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Most Spurs fans are like that TBH. :lol

Patty needs to keep this up and Philly needs to stay on the playoffs chase so that Brett can do us as solid and take on Patty's contract.

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

Same story every time...Guy shits the bed 8 games in a row and it's a "small sample size". Then he has one good quarter and suddenly "he's back!" :lol

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Tim with a Truth Nuke :smchode:

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

Now Patty is getting better and Fathead is getting back to his 90 year old POS form.

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Agreed, except for the part about Paddy getting better.

:lol Porker fluffers BTFO. The best point guard on the Spurs' roster finally stopped coasting.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Unfortunately, Ginobili looks done for good this time. Been saying, think this is the succession plan in the back court: Ginobili (presumably) retires after this season, Murray takes his role until Parker retires, then graduates to starter, with White taking his role.

Pop/Buford started drinking their own Kool-Aid post '14, thinking they had all that success from '12-'14, culminating with the championship, because of character, culture, system etc. As if they had stumbled upon some magic elixir, when in reality, talent wins. Even though that team did it unconventionally, they had the best depth of talent and that along with their unparalleled combination of IQ, unselfishness and luck (the Ibaka injury) pushed them over the top. Sure, those other things helped, but they didn't win because of them. No longer having the combination of things should have placed an even higher priority on talent and instead they succumbed to believing their own hype.

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Didn't Bill Land tonight say that Pop said you don't necessarily need talent to win, it's more about execution? Does anyone remember the exact quote?

The NBA is one of the most talent based league in the world IMO. In other words, you need talent to win Championships and it's not too often where the team that wins doesn't have the best player or players.

Just because the Spurs did it in 2014, it doesn't mean that it could be repeated multiple times, it was an exception to the rule, but these guys obviously thought otherwise. If you don't have a top 1-3, or 1-5 player in the league, plus other players in the top 10 or 15, you're not likely to win Championships in the NBA. You need talent to win it all in the NBA. Now that doesn't mean you can win it on talent alone as we've seen other talented teams fail before, but you do need that talent to give yourself a legit chance to win.

His contract detracts from his value. His having to be a starter-type detracts, as well.

Patty is one of those glue guys you want on a contender. His lack of conscience, fearlessness and shooting capability, is great for an X-Factor on a team that has all the parts - and if the Spurs get healthy and Rudy keeps getting better, maybe the tune changes around these parts.

The Spurs' definitely over-valued him, though. They're too dependent on him. At least, Pop is. Patty can put you over the top under the right circumstance. But played as a starter, he'll have you digging from a hole with his deficiencies.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Didn't Bill Land tonight say that Pop said you don't necessarily need talent to win, it's more about execution? Does anyone remember the exact quote?

The NBA is one of the most talent based league in the world IMO. In other words, you need talent to win Championships and it's not too often where the team that wins doesn't have the best player or players.

Just because the Spurs did it in 2014, it doesn't mean that it could be repeated multiple times, it was an exception to the rule, but these guys obviously thought otherwise. If you don't have a top 1-3, or 1-5 player in the league, plus other players in the top 10 or 15, you're not likely to win Championships in the NBA. You need talent to win it all in the NBA. Now that doesn't mean you can win it on talent alone as we've seen other talented teams fail before, but you do need that talent to give yourself a legit chance to win.

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To execute well they need talent simply. You can run the same play for different guys and they don't execute the same as your best guys bc they are less talented.

But I guess Pop focuses on controlling what he can control. He can't fully control the talent available to him. The Spurs dratt at the end of the 1st round and have to do homework on free agents on a budget. Guys they want do not necessarily want to join the team or they can't find trades that are suitable. But what he as a coach can focus his team on is the execution.

slightly better.

"The Spurs have holes at both PG and SG.Dragic and TJ would fill their holes nicely."

"And what the hell would we be getting in return? the only young player they have (assuming you want to blow it up) is Dejounte Murray and he plus their 1st rounder would not be worth both Dragic and TJ."

"don't they have another rookie and future 1St rounders."

"Brandon Paul is ok but even adding him isnt going to do much. Would have to get 2 first rounders at least I would imagine. Plus then salaries wouldnt work at all."

"Considering his contract and how bad he's been this season. we may have to attach something to TJ to move him. And Dejounte Murray and 1st rounder might be the best package we get for Dragic. There's not that many playoff teams that need a pg, maybe Orlando, Spurs and Denver. We wont get back anything close to what we owe for Dragic. Blowing it up this season is tricky because of the top 7 protected pick. We could end up tanking and gift Phx the 8th pick in a good draft. On the otherside we could try for the playoffs and just miss it and give Phoenix the 14th pick. Basically we have to be good or this is a wasted season. Or be extremely bad, but I dont see how we get there with so many worse teams tanking."

"If the Heat are 6 or 7 games under .500 come January 1st, I'm sure tank talk will be in full bloom. "


From the Heat forum.

Mills + Murray + Anderson + 1st round pick for Dragic + White


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