This season's Forbes > Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Perimeter role players that shoot like shit suck, son.
Fucking Dedmon has developed a better jumper than Latrell Simmons, let that sink in for a moment. :lol
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This season's Forbes > Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Perimeter role players that shoot like shit suck, son.
Fucking Dedmon has developed a better jumper than Latrell Simmons, let that sink in for a moment. :lol
Are we talking about Ben Simmons or Jonathon Simmons? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Because Jonathon is shooting 39.4% from deep this year in nearly twice the attempts from last season.
If you want to talk about scrubs that can't shoot, you don't have to look further more than your boy Ginose... who's at 20.0%
Gino is on the team at a bargain amount this season. $2.5 million is change compared to his contributions... Besides not all contributions are captured by the stats... two of the games he sat out in (including the romp of the Bulls a few days ago) tend to be stat equalizing games. In other words, some of the other Spurs players get a chance to stat pad their overall stats against bad teams. Gino, because of Pop's resting regiment doesn't get that chance to partake in the boosts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I could give two shits about his salary. Him shooting threes might as well count as a turnover, something he's an expert at, and until he stops shooting or improves then he will be rightfully criticized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
20.0% is 20.0%
That's just it... you will find something to nitpick EVEN WHEN he plays well. Your hatred against him is non-sensical at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
The fuck? I checked his numbers last seek and he was shooting 25%. He must have had a couple of fluke shooting games, tbh. Anyway, I will take the L on this one like the gentleman that I am. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Anyway x2, let's wait 'till the end of the season. If he can mantain this, then he was definitely worth keeping.
He was worth keeping, but he didn't want to come back. Money might have been a factor and I think his expectations originally were unreasonable, but when he came back down to earth from what he expected, he decided on his own that he wanted to chase greener pastures elsewhere. And that is that. It's pointless to be whining about a guy who didn't want to come back and is happy where he is...
that is unless guy is a troll.. which TGY is.
I understand fans miss him. I think he could have helped the Spurs this season, but he chose to move on and Spurs have move on.
The obvious, yet unstated ‘and’ is that Paul’s TS% is higher. You posted Simmons TS%, and I riposted with Paul’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
He’s a better shooter, a FAR better defender, and a couple of years younger, to boot.
No.... WE didn't respect or want SimmonsQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
I tried to tell y'all about Simmons...
these statements are based on what?Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
ps: the difference of fga and importance in their respective teams makes the comparison of ts meaningless.
Paul defensive box plus minus 0.5Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Simmons defensive box plus minus -1.6
Paul 11 steals 2 blocks 215 minutes
Simmons 12 steals 1block 380 minutes
The shooting statement is backed by their TS%s, which you brought into the discussion. It’s also usage neutral. You shoot what you shoot.
Paul is FAR better in his limited bench role than Simmons ever was as a Spur. It’s harder to put up good shooting %s in more limited minutes. Some can, some can’t.
steals and blocks per minute? using bpm early in the season to prove something? lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Simmons really has a really important role in his team, he's the 6th man and he's offensively at the elite level with that role so far (his fga has enough volume for his to have any real value) by comparing Paul and his virtually nonexistent role is ridiculous and stating that Paul is a better defender with 10 league games only in spurstalk
ps: I really hope he's better than Simmons (which I doubt), but stating that he's better than Simmons at something at the moment makes no sense at all
They don't get itQuote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
It makes perfect sense once you realize that he's a Porker fluffer who's jealous of the facts that Manu is and has always been the better player, the greater Spur, and is still contributing at age 40 while Porker's already done at age 35.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
No. Simmons was prepared to stay in SA. This is well documented. Poop chose Mills instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
His lock-on defense is what Cavs need. But I don’t think he’d get the same playing time as he’s getting in Orlando.
I like Simmons, I said earlier I think he can be a quality rotation player and efficient driver of a bench unit, on a decent team. Thing is the Spurs didn't need Khawi, Gay, Ginobli, Green, Anderson, to all fill the wing role. I get with the Spurs 2s and 3s can be interchangeable, but Simmons had hit a point where he either needed to be paid as a major part of the Spurs future (eh I am not sure) or take a $3 mil per year contract with the Spurs calling it developmental.). He didn't want to bet on himself and his health with a 1 year deal at that and with Mills Gasols contracts he has a hard time accepting 3.5 mil for one year. He couldn't get what he was really worth and wanting with the Spurs because of other contact situations.
Gino's is retiring... Kyle is very unproven... There was room to bring him back... Pop didn't think he was good enough, based on how he played him in the regular season... Pop was wrong again on this one... Bad call not paying Simmons in order to overpay Gasol and mills... We let another good player slip through the cracksQuote:
Originally Posted by Gagnrath
How is he playing now. Looks like Orlando is coming back down and starting to lose games. Is Simmons still playing well?
Raw numbers look good, but advanced stats don't favour him. VORP: 0.0 - OBPM: 0.1 - DBPM: -1.9 - BPM: -1.7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Just to take the reference of a guy whose raw numbers aren't looking all that good but every non hater guy here realizes that he's been doing great, let's look at Kyle advanced stats. VORP: 0.6 - OBPM: 0.1 - DBPM: 2.8 - BPM: 2.9
So yeah, empty calories Simmons.
In before r0drig0lac tells you your advanced stats are empty calories.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
But u do realize Kyle is playing on a good team, so those numbers specifically will be skewed, right? Not to mention he plays on the bench with worse players around him... Kyle is starting with much better players surrounding him... I guarantee Simmons would be better if they switched roles right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
good luck trying to contextualize things around here, people only understand what they want to understandQuote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5