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Originally Posted by duncan2k5
Simmons had even shittier numbers last season on a 60 wins Spurs team.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
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Originally Posted by duncan2k5
Simmons had even shittier numbers last season on a 60 wins Spurs team.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Yup, I think Anderson is a much more valuable player. He can do a lot more things and is more versatile. Simmons is a scorer and will get a lot of airplay cause he does flashy things, but Anderson is low key a baller. Simmons can only find shots for himself in pnr situations imo and Anderson consistently looks for others. Factor in Anderson's d, length, and better ball handling skills and he's just a better ball player. Simmons will have his moments but slowmo is like the tortoise to Simmons hare. Kyle should age pretty well since he doesn't rely on any kind of elite athleticism but I'm getting ahead of myself. Want to see Anderson continue to develop. Very interested to see what he primes' out at. Pop already saying he's got to find a way to fit him in says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Anderson consistently looks for others, yet Simmons averaged more assists per game... The logic is amazingQuote:
Originally Posted by raybies
stats or it didn't happenQuote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
What are Simmons' raw numbers? Magic look like they're fading after that hot start. Anyone watched any of their games? Is he playing well?
I've been casually keeping up with him but the last couple games I've seen from him were pretty ho hum compared to the fast start he had...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
14 ppg, 2 apg, 3rpg,50 FG%, 38 3PT%, 76 FT% on 25 mpg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Pretty solid, I don't know how he has such bad advanced metrics. Apparently he has been sucking on D.
They have lost 6 games in a row and have been outscored when he's played. He doesn't have enough of the "hustle stats" (too low % on rebounds, blocks or steals, and not a factor defensively). However, basketball is a team sport if they start winning he will bounce back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Dude...check basketball reference...look at their last year stats...simmons averaged more assists...yall overrate kyles passing BIG timeQuote:
Originally Posted by raybies
Dude, Simmons played more real games than kyle did. Kyle was also off the ball a lot with very little playmaking opportunities. Look at their stats this season when Kyle is a rotation player.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
So the games kyle played in last year were fake ones? Wtf is a real game? And what does thst have to do with simmons getting more assists per game?Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Also kyle plays with better players in our starting lineuo than simmons does on the bench of the magic...lol...dude even plays less minutes...
Led his team in scoring against the Celtics. Magic are just trash. Especially that bush head Payton
I did check and compared this year. This year they are both getting minutes with better sample size. I recommend you check these stats and let me know what you see...Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
i know the stats...on the SAME TEAM with the SAME ROLE last year, Simmons was the better passer...so why does anderson get praised for being the better passer? fake news! this yeas simmons in playing on a worse team with worse coaching, AND coming off the bench...he has MUCH less to work with than kyle does...Quote:
Originally Posted by raybies
Jesus. Simmons is shy of 30 years old. He's got a couple years left maybe. Fathead is still a work in progress, we'll see.
Jesus, you’re dumb. They did NOT have the same role last year. Kyle played almost exclusively OFF the ball his whole Spurs career until this year. Jonathon had the ball in his hands in a bench creator role.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
And they still had the same assists per 36 last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
they are not really comparable players
Duncan2K5 has some separation anxiety.
He should follow the Magic at this rate and become a true JSimms fan. Whining here when he’s no longer in the team, there’s no point. You are a fan of JSimms go watch the Magic tbh.
Watched their last 3 or 4 games. He's the definition of empty calories and the advanced stats clearly show it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Yet, no matter how good his numbers look the dude finishes everysingle game -20 something, by far the worst of the team. At some point you gotta consider the possibility of that not being a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I haven't watch a Magic game outside of the Spurs game with them, but I might be changing my mind on Simmons. It seems like he's a me first player and person. He may have great raw numbers, but it doesn't look like he's playing winning basketball when looking at those other numbers. It looks like he's out for his own.
I still would have liked him back, especially for the same or similar amount of money he got, but now I think I'm going to conclude that it's not a Stephen Jackson situation like in 2003 where I was still mad about letting him walk for years after he left.