Rank the Spurs FA's Offseason Priorities...

As of today, Who are you prioritizing and why? Bonus points if you can give some salary ranges. Who can we realistically afford or who should we keep and who should we let walk? Who's skillset is most valuable overall or to our team?

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Player	Pos	Team	Season	Age	YOS	Veteran FA Status	GP	PTS	REB	AST	PER	Agent
Kyle Anderson	PF	SAN	2018-2019	24	4	Bird	23	8.87	5.96	3.04	16.58	Thaddeus Foucher
Davis Bertans	SF/PF	SAN	2018-2019	25	2	Early Bird	21	3.76	1.14	0.48	15.68	Chris Patrick
Bryn Forbes	G	SAN	2018-2019	24	2	Early Bird	25	6.56	1.32	0.80	10.75	Michael Lindeman
Rudy Gay	SF	SAN	2018-2019	31	12	Non-Bird	23	12.17	5.35	1.74	18.74	Roger Montgomery
Danny Green	SG	SAN	2018-2019	31	9	Bird	24	9.67	4.00	2.08	12.28	Bill Duffy
Joffrey Lauvergne	PF	SAN	2018-2019	26	4	Non-Bird	12	3.50	3.58	0.75	11.05	Jeff Schwartz Pedja Materic
Tony Parker	PG	SAN	2018-2019	36	17	Bird	5	8.20	2.00	5.00	20.00	Steven Heumann

Is the season over already? That was fast.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Is the season over already? That was fast.

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speculation is one of my favorite parts about watching sports.... Was hoping to build a catalog of information as the season went a long I guess to remember how Forbes and Bertans ranked early as opposed to later. Bertans play may affect whether we sign KA back or not imo. Bryn on the other hand affects White's playing time and could slide in next to Mills next season if Manu retires, yet we still have Paul... pardon my reach here

Danny Green, Rudy Gay, Tony Parker.

It's a given we keep DG and TP.

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Originally Posted by dabom

It's a given we keep DG and TP.

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I just don't know how Murray fits into this. With Patty and TP back does he play rest games etc. But yeah you are right. Green, Gay, and Parker. What do you think about the RFA's?

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Originally Posted by raybies

I just don't know how Murray fits into this. With Patty and TP back does he play rest games etc. But yeah you are right. Green, Gay, and Parker. What do you think about the RFA's?

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KA wins games in the RS but not playoffs. Forbes looks good but doesn't have any good playoff showings. KA 5mil per for 3 years. Anything more and he can be replaced. Forbes is probably gonna leave though. Unless he gets something like 3mil per for 3 years. Anything more and he gets dropped.

I am going to seem completely ignorant here (nothing new, I guess) but I didn't think Davis and Bryn were going to be restricted FAs. I thought that only applied to first round draft picks. Davis was a second and Bryn undrafted (I think). Please correct me if I am wrong.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio_spurs/

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Originally Posted by dabom

KA wins games in the RS but not playoffs. Forbes looks good but doesn't have any good playoff showings. KA 5mil per for 3 years. Anything more and he can be replaced. Forbes is probably gonna leave though. Unless he gets something like 3mil per for 3 years. Anything more and he gets dropped.

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As of now, Forbes is next in line for the Ginobili spot next to Mills. KA's playmaking makes him a good fit for the bench next to Mills and Forbes. Gay should be there too. I don't think he's raised his value that much and most contenders won't have the money. If he's wise he stays. So I guess that leaves out Bertans. I guess Gay could playmake for the second unit. He's been starting to play the pnr so I guess that could give Bertans a chance.

It'll be interesting to see if Bertans can shake things up and make it tough on Pop. KA will have his spot but Bertans can have his say. Bertans when on is a complete game changer. The guy is like a rich man's Bonner when on, but he has potential to be what we always wanted the Red Rocket to be in the playoffs. I doubt Gay loses his minutes.

DG has a player option next year. Why the fuck are people bitching so much. :lol

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I am going to seem completely ignorant here (nothing new, I guess) but I didn't think Davis and Bryn were going to be restricted FAs. I thought that only applied to first round draft picks. Davis was a second and Bryn undrafted (I think). Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Only been in league for two years, so they’re RFAs. First round picks are a different case - because their deals are 2 + 2 team options, year 5 becomes restricted FA. For second rounders, they can actually hit UFA earlier ... see when the Rockets passed on Parsons’ fourth year option to keep him restricted vs. having him go unrestricted after four.

Anderson is an RFA this offseason. Assuming options are picked up, Murray is under control before RFA for two years after this.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I am going to seem completely ignorant here (nothing new, I guess) but I didn't think Davis and Bryn were going to be restricted FAs. I thought that only applied to first round draft picks. Davis was a second and Bryn undrafted (I think). Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Chinook would know best, but all rookies regardless of age are RFA's after first deal if I'm not mistaken. But this table was pulled from RealGM

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Originally Posted by dabom

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio_spurs/

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Thanks. :toast

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Originally Posted by cjw

Only been in league for two years, so they’re RFAs. First round picks are a different case - because their deals are 2 + 2 team options, year 5 becomes restricted FA. For second rounders, they can actually hit UFA earlier ... see when the Rockets passed on Parsons’ fourth year option to keep him restricted vs. having him go unrestricted after four.

Anderson is an RFA this offseason. Assuming options are picked up, Murray is under control before RFA for two years after this.

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thanks

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Originally Posted by raybies

As of now, Forbes is next in line for the Ginobili spot next to Mills. KA's playmaking makes him a good fit for the bench next to Mills and Forbes. Gay should be there too. I don't think he's raised his value that much and most contenders won't have the money. If he's wise he stays. So I guess that leaves out Bertans. I guess Gay could playmake for the second unit. He's been starting to play the pnr so I guess that could give Bertans a chance.

It'll be interesting to see if Bertans can shake things up and make it tough on Pop. KA will have his spot but Bertans can have his say. Bertans when on is a complete game changer. The guy is like a rich man's Bonner when on, but he has potential to be what we always wanted the Red Rocket to be in the playoffs. I doubt Gay loses his minutes.

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I don't think Forbes is our Manu replacement. Or even position next to Mills. Manu brings running the offense. Something forbes lacks considerably. We technical have the money to keep all the players except 2. Fathead and forbes aren't playoff game changers. I would keep fathead over forbes though.

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Originally Posted by dabom

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio_spurs/

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So how much does that give us to resign our players? like 15-18 mill right? not counting Danny's, Gay's and Joff's cash I think Danny and Gay exercise their option but I think Joff opts out

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I am going to seem completely ignorant here (nothing new, I guess) but I didn't think Davis and Bryn were going to be restricted FAs. I thought that only applied to first round draft picks. Davis was a second and Bryn undrafted (I think). Please correct me if I am wrong.

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They're going to be Arenas free agents and yes - restricted - absolutely the same case as Simmons.

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Originally Posted by cjw

Only been in league for two years, so they’re RFAs. First round picks are a different case - because their deals are 2 + 2 team options, year 5 becomes restricted FA. For second rounders, they can actually hit UFA earlier ... see when the Rockets passed on Parsons’ fourth year option to keep him restricted vs. having him go unrestricted after four.

Anderson is an RFA this offseason. Assuming options are picked up, Murray is under control before RFA for two years after this.

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Originally Posted by raybies

Chinook would know best, but all rookies regardless of age are RFA's after first deal if I'm not mistaken. But this table was pulled from RealGM

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Many thanks guys.

Truthfully, I'm not too worried about Green and Tony as the FO always finds ways to keep "their" guys. Tony is definitely one and I think Danny is as well at this point.

I'd hate to see Rudy go but if Spurs have a big postseason run he'll almost certainly have to have really contributed, and then he'll have a higher market ceiling. Wouldn't want to lose any of Anderson, Bertans, or Forbes, but I'm sure at least 1 will be gone. Joff is a journeyman. His type are easily found. He'd be the lowest priority even with the team's lack of big depth.

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Originally Posted by dabom

I don't think Forbes is our Manu replacement. Or even position next to Mills. Manu brings running the offense. Something forbes lacks considerably. We technical have the money to keep all the players except 2. Fathead and forbes aren't playoff game changers. I would keep fathead over forbes though.

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Well before this season Forbes only played well in garbage time. This year he took the leap by performing in meaningful rotation minutes. I think it's reasonable that he performs well in the post season next year if he doesn't do well this year. If bombs out in the playoffs he should be cheaper. But compared the guy to Curry lol so who knows how much Pop wants him.

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Originally Posted by raybies

So how much does that give us to resign our players? like 15-18 mill right? not counting Danny's, Gay's and Joff's cash I think Danny and Gay exercise their option but I think Joff opts out

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It all depends who does well in the playoffs. Expect Gay to get a raise though.

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Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

They're going to be Arenas free agents and yes - restricted - absolutely the same case as Simmons.

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Thanks. :toast

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Originally Posted by raybies

Well before this season Forbes only played well in garbage time. This year he took the leap by performing in meaningful rotation minutes. I think it's reasonable that he performs well in the post season next year if he doesn't do well this year. If bombs out in the playoffs he should be cheaper. But compared the guy to Curry lol so who knows how much Pop wants him.

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But your not saying who we keep or who we don't. How about you elaborate.

I value all 3 of Davis Kyle and Bryn bc this team just cannot keep getting the heck older around Kawhi each season, signing up all the guys who are 30 and older to multiple year contracts while ditching the best crop of young players they have developed since Kawhi, Danny, and Mills were in their initial contracts a few years ago. So, they need to retain some guys from this generation. They also don’t have capspace to go shopping in FA so signing back their best young players is the only way to keep continuity and youth around Kawhi. It’s still early in the season but all 3 have contributed to wins.

I do think one of either Davis or Kyle may be gone if Rudy stays. There’s just not sufficient available playing time for all 3 in a healthy roster when the team has Kawhi and Lamarcus as their best players occupying the forwards spots and Pop still starts Gasol and likes to play 2 big combos and 2 microguard combos at times (though this may be a result of injuries). I think all 3 are okay with being bench players in a good team, but Kyle expressed he doesn’t want to go back to playing limited minutes at this point in his career and I bet Bertans doesn’t feel any different. I keep thinking one of these 3 won’t be back.

Tony and Danny are going to be back but Tony’s contract should be smaller.

Danny is an enigma to me in $ terms. An argument can be made that he’s more valuable than Mills and should get comparable compensation. I find it difficult to even suggest he give a discount. Considering the trade rumors, should he be leaving money to sign someone younger who is due for a payday? Maybe not. The trade rumors situation just places Danny in a new perspective. Maybe he wants to ensure that if he were to get traded at least he’s well compensated. It’s also probably his last big deal.

Joff is a replacement level player in a minimum deal. It doesn’t matter what he does (picking his option or not).

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Many thanks guys.

Truthfully, I'm not too worried about Green and Tony as the FO always finds ways to keep "their" guys. Tony is definitely one and I think Danny is as well at this point.

I'd hate to see Rudy go but if Spurs have a big postseason run he'll almost certainly have to have really contributed, and then he'll have a higher market ceiling. Wouldn't want to lose any of Anderson, Bertans, or Forbes, but I'm sure at least 1 will be gone. Joff is a journeyman. His type are easily found. He'd be the lowest priority even with the team's lack of big depth.

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Yup spot on. Tony and Green would get taken care of. Danny is the prototypical 3 and D in the league and he's a Spur. He already sacrificed once, so I have no doubt he would do it again. He should look to secure a longer bag at about the same price 3 years. Tony is the question mark. How much will he get?

As for Rudy, you are right, but not many teams have the money that would be worth the move for him. He wants to win and he's been a pretty solid fit he while it was hard to believe at first. He's been efficient. I think he gives the star power that this team needs, even on a diminished role. If he waits one more year, I think we can take care of him.

I agree about Anderson, Davis and Forbes though. Hate to lose one but they could all be in line for a raise. The Detroits of the world will make sure of that.