:lmao what a sad pathetic bunch of shit
Stephen Kawhawkins can barely wipe his ass out there
Fucking pathetic
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:lmao what a sad pathetic bunch of shit
Stephen Kawhawkins can barely wipe his ass out there
Fucking pathetic
:lmao Pop you stupid fuck
Manu is better than kl at 40Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Popovich checking that white privilege tbh.
Kobe Leonard is glass.
Pop is an ego maniac tbh what else is new.
40 year old white guy best nba player by farQuote:
Originally Posted by Kool Bob Love
Really needed him here. :wow
Sad. Spurs better wo kl.... need more isoQuote:
Originally Posted by hater
Kawhi is a shadow of himself because Pop is brainwashng him to think he is a 40 year oldQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Fucking gross
Ha. Kl lost the beautiful game mentalityQuote:
Originally Posted by hater
Pop is the typical liberal, tbh... instead of telling Kawhi to strap on his boots and earn his money, he’s basically creating another entitled welfare queen, tbh..
We’re fortunate Duncan was your typical conservative when it comes to work ethic and being a winner...
:tu good post bro
Nice troll :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Tim gave his own money to the less fortunate tbh, not Bounty paper towels
:wowQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Did Kawhi get hurt? What happened? Why the hell was he not playing?
What's the big deal? It's December, the team looks ugly but is winning games and just needs Kawhi to play over 30' in May.
Again, December --------------> May.
Stop overreacting like teenagers
He's fine. He played. In the first half. 15 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barfunk
Yeah this is ridiculous he’s either ready to play or he isn’t none of this 15 minute bullshit. He’s never going to get any rhythm doing this and the teams been all over the place with these wacky rotations. The way Pop is monitoring his minutes you would think KL is coming off a compete ACL, PCL, and MCL tear...
Nono going to lose himself in his trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Bubble Wrapped Super Star..maybe Pop will unleash the Klaw the last 30 games or so.
Kawhi pretty much got a stress injury. You don't just go back to playing full minutes after that. You have monitor to see if it's coming back before you make it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by emanueldavidginobili
Maybe Kawhi needs a 1on1 with Pop next and demand more minutes too (what Aldridge and Pop meant about being"Used Right")
Kawhi's only got 4 years left untill he's old
That's basically what I was concerned with... In different terms, I was concerned if they were watching out for a recurrence. It is weird to take it this slow unless there's some risk we don't know. ... My speculation and guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Kawhi needs his safe space guys. :cry
You're the one bitching. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Kool Bob Love
Gosh I hope Kawhi's not a Penny Hardaway/Grant Hill/Tracy McGrady/... Great players robbed of their prime years
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I don't think Kawhi is injured. It's just Pop overdoing it like always. I could be wrong though, but I doubt it.
Yea, could be this.
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Originally Posted by Barfunk
No shit sherlock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barfunk
this thread is like a congregation of trolls lmao
,.i..Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
A lot of haters who are not watching the Spurs are going to think by looking at Kawhi's numbers that he's washed up.
I’d do the same shit if I was Pop, Kawhi is still slow getting up when he falls on his he floor. Plus, fuck being the coach that fucked up a career because you wanted to beat a Clippers team without cp or Blake.
Poor bastard just can't wipe his own ass like he used to
truf bombsQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
geez it's early as fuck still... calm down
Pop is an old paranoid fuck, but can you blame him? He has one player that, if injured, would destroy the team's chance of success. And that actually happened just last season. And he had a severe, mysterious illness to his quad tendon, a crucial organ for a basketball player.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
he probably should not play more right now ... he is moving slower than Kyle and cannot get by anybody while TP and Manu did layup drills against the Clips ... he is argueing calls and does not get back on defense
I really don't know why people don't get this. He hasn't played in forever, and this is his 3rd game back. The expectations on this site are insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Seriously lolQuote:
Originally Posted by raybies
This is one of the worst comebacks I've ever seen.
I don't know what's going on, but he looks terrible out there. Looks like a completely different player. Nothing like the Kawhi Leonard that I knew from before.
His first game he actually looked good, like he hadn't missed a beat. But did you really expect no rust/sluggishness? It was his 3rd game in 7 months without playing any real competitive ball in between.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
No pre season , no training camp, no meaningful 5 on 5's, etc...
Lots of non logic from people on here and Ice has been one of them lately. Have you seen his embarrassing in game meltdowns? Good grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Bklynspursfan one of the few thinking right as usual
This is a down season anyways...Quote:
Originally Posted by UZER
people expect too much, especially from an injury. people on here have no patience and it's sad to see
im afraid its looking like career injury prone. spurfan try to deny it but the evidence is in front of our eyes.
kick the tires with kidd and see if he's dumb enough to trade giannis or if phil jackson wants to still trade porzingod PATFO tbh
If Kawhi goes down again(this season) he's "injury prone"
I'm starting to believe the Kawhi for Porzingas talk actually happened. Not that is was ever really going to happen, but maybe the Spurs saw this coming.
I seriously don't get the expectations of folks on here sometimes. Like he's not immediately dominating after that crazy long lay-off/recovery process? Blasphemy!Quote:
Originally Posted by spursgu
You guys will all regret these cruel words to Pop when the Klaw is 44 and still putting up 6 points and 2 rebounds!
I expected rust, but I didn't expect him to look this out of it where he can't even play 15 minutes without looking gassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Looks like a complete shadow of the player Pop touted as the best in the league after the Memphis series.
This where you see how Kawhi is not among the supremely innately talented superstars of his and past generations. He is a man of habit and a product of an otherworldly work ethics, and what has brought him here is a mechanical repetition of gradually acquired skills throughout the years..
His increasingly brittle health is now the biggest obstacle to his rise toward HOF greatness..
It is early, but I’m getting nervous.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
Noticed that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fireball
Tony returned from a completely ruptured quad tendon at 10 years older and was looking like he didn’t miss a beat. Not sure if it’s conditioning. Tony reportedly rehabbed like a madman and was doing scrimmages with the d’league team for weeks etc. It’s possible Tony was more ready conditioning wise to return. Weird.
Different body types. And it has to do with circulation. A shorter player usually has much better circulation than a taller player. And circulation is key in the healing process.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Wow. This thread is full of retards. :lol
If it’s conditioning and stamina it’s going to take time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
Just a month or so ago he looked 70 years old limping climbing some stairs. While he was in that state, Tony was already schooling guys in the dleague scrimmaging 5-5. I tend to think even as Kawhi took longer to rehab he also had less time to really be in his optimal shape whereas Tony apparently was already playing basketball since preseason with the Austin Toros and he appeared to take his time to be in top shape.
Build the wallQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Being gassed was def to be expected tho, even more so than basketball stuff being off, mainly because he could probably still shoot a little while he was out. That motor doesn't just get started with that long a layoff tho. Give him at least a month to get it back. These guys get training camp/pre-season to get their wind back before the season starts. Just gotta think of this first month or so of Kawhi is basically Sept/Oct. Its just happening in Dec/Jan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Still I don’t think it is arguable anymore that, when it comes to the health package—reliability and availability—Kawhi is a tier below the Big 3..Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Hell Parker who entered the league a decade before him; played more minutes on aggregate and went deeper in the playoffs for years in 2000s; took all the pounding from the bigs of that eras; and ruptured the same body part at which Kawhi is only suffering few spasms, and he is looking far more spry and in-shape than him..
Now I understand why Pop looked puzzled and frustrated by the whole thing. He was being honest when he said doesn’t know what’s really up with him..He must be telling to himself: "After all the babying, what can i do more to him?"
I'm going to wait a month before I have any concerns about his recovery. If he's still sucking in a month around mid to late January then it will be troubling.
like Cristiano Ronaldo, which does not stop him from being on the list with Pele, Messi and Maradona as one of the greatest footballers in historyQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
FIFYQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
“There's no talent here, this is hard work. This is an obsession. Talent does not exist, we are all equal as human beings. You could be anyone if you put in the time. You will reach the top, and that is that. I am not talented, I am obsessed.”Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
— Conor McGregor
Kawhi is going to take time to reach peak form.
He's lucky the Spurs have a good team that has taken care of business so that this isn't a lost season. At some point in the future they will be formidable.
:cry Kawhi is so lucky. :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
All these guys on suicidal mode when they read that Kawhi won't play tomorrow.
"He re-injured his quad !!!" "Career ending injury !!!"
Or just B2B against Blazers-Jazz
:lol Yeah those islanders are very conservative. Can we build a wall around an island?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a...es-for-rhythm/
I agree with this Spurs hater in some things.
-Kawhi's elevation doesn't look the same which is expectable at this point of his recovery
-He didnt lose confidence on the offensive end and his defense seems still intact.
"Leonard doesn't have to be great for a while, but at this point, Kawhi is like pizza. Even not-great Kawhi is still pretty great. "
41 year old Duncan would probably play more minutes. He played more minutes with no knee cartilage at age 40.
conservatives date little girls too, tbh, but when it comes to god and work ethic they're basically unmatched.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs10
WTF, he's sitting out again? Why? I know it's a back to back, but why sit out the first game of a back to back? Isn't it always better to try and win the first game and then go for broke in the second game trying to steal that one? They could end up with 2 losses using this strategy.
Man, this FO is retarded.
How in the heck is LeBron able to play massive minutes off of an ankle injury to start the season, yet Kawhi can't play hardly any minutes at all?
Does anyone know anything about injury management, as in work in the medical field here? I really doubt playing 15 minutes Vs 20-24 (I think he should be playing around 20 minimum to 24 max as that is still half a game or less) is going to give the player less chances of an injury re-occurring. It can happen at any time. If you want to lessen the chances, then you probably shouldn't play him it all. How is 15 minutes a game helping the team or Kawhi? It's not giving him much conditioning and it's really screwing the team's rhythm.
:lmao this fuck is out again ?? :lol
Stephen Kawhawkins can barely wipe his own ass
My God the panic level with some of y'all. :dramaquee
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
I agree. WTF!!!! LeBron analogy was good. I don't get it either, dude is making 20 plus mill and can only play 15 minutes? Dude shouldn't be playing at all if he can't play. This Injury Management shit just lowers the value of my tickets, it just sucks balls. Pop is dumb ass. A player can get hurt any second, whether at practice or a game, wtf? just roll with it. I call bullshit on this whole Kawhi thing anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
The 2nd game (against Utah) is nationally televised...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Ahh right, so that means what? Is he not allowed to sit in a nationally televised game? I haven't kept up on the rules of that. Surely, in Kawhi's case, they wouldn't fine the Spurs if the sat him in the second game and played him in the first. It's a back to back after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Did the Sixers have to do that with Joel Embiid when they sat/sit him in back to backs?
Missi and Snortadona? :lol CR7 has surpassed both.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Lebron is not human (he is made of the same material as Karl Malone and Stockton, these guys just do not get hurt)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
I don’t care much for these rules either but teams will get fined for sitting healthy stars in nationally televised games. Even when in this case it’s injury management, not rest, Pop can still choose which game to sit them down for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Teams have been respectful of this rule this season. The league also sought to limit the number of televised games which come in a B2B but it obviously couldn’t get it done for every game.
u guys are nuts...this is all about Pop babying kawhi...not him being injury prone...lol...how does coming down on someone's foot twice in a week (one intentionally) make one injury prone?
Thinking Pop would ever get fined for shit like that. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
All he got to do is tell them in advance. That's all. He got fined years ago for not telling the league before hand.
He wont ever get fined. :lmao
Pele, Maradona, Messi, Cruyff, Ronaldo Nazario, Matthaus, Zidane, Muller, Van Basten. There's many players in history better than Cristiano.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Gerd, Mathaus and Van Basten they are not in this conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by daledondale
my list
1- Pele
2- Messi
3- Maradona
4- Zidane
5- Cruyff
the absurd numbers playing for the biggest club in the world, individual prizes, titles and mainly winning a euro for a level B national team will put Cristiano in that conversation regardless of what people think
My list:Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
1-Maradona
2-Pele
3-Messi
4-Cruyff
I didn't say Cristiano is a bad player, he's really good. But also, it's the most overrated player in history. So, in my opinion, he's not even in the top ten. But hey, i respect your opinion.
At first I was pissed about Pop treating Kawhi like a crystal vase but it doesn't really matter. Kawhi's MVPDPOY chances and All NBA spots are probably gone.
Now I think positive in that as long as the team is healthy and gelling in February/March and ready for the playoffs that's all that matters.
We would have the freshest superstar for the playoffs which would be a bonus as well as securing another 50 win season. I see this as Pops reasoning and imagine if Kawhi goes video game mode in the playoffs and and we win title 6... That's the only goal that matters this season (next season I wanna see Kawhi Back as a legit top 3 MVP candidate) But for now it seems like we could be in for a weird season.
To go along with Leonard we have Gasol and Manu being age 80 between them, Parker coming back from a major injury, Gay coming off a major injury. Thats 5 major pieces all of who need a solution to get to the playoffs healthy so we can upset those GSW fuckers and then LeBron, again. :) Like I said, could be a bizarro season.
^^^^ Of course! My gosh the complaints on this board are laughable. People want Kawhi to risk reinjuring his self for what? Ease their boredom? There's plenty of time to catch up and reintegrate. Fuck MVP race. More banners.
This thread is dumb. This whole year hinges on a healthy Kawhi Leonard.
If the coaching staff feels like they need to take their time with it, then so be it. Better than putting him right back in for 30+ mpg and having him aggravate or re-injure his quad.
The Spurs have been doing fine without Kawhi, and that should continue until he is up to his old par. I'd rather Kawhi lose minutes and miss games in December than I would in May.
I don't recall anyone here saying play 30+.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
I just think 20-24 is the way to go. You can split that up in 5 or 6 minute quarters. That's half a game or less. You're not going to get any conditioning up playing 15 minutes a game. It's not helping Kawhi get any conditioning and it's screwing with the team's rhythm.
I stand by what I've said. 15 minutes is a useless waste of time IMO. You may as well not play him at all if that is all you're going to give him. Let him work on his conditioning in his own time away from the team if he isn't ready for bigger minutes. Sit him out a bit longer to get his conditioning up and maybe play 3 on 3 with the deep bench reserves until he's ready to play around half a game, then bring him back for around 24 minutes a game and build from there.
So is the pussy sitting tonight???
Pathetic loser
Kawhi was supposed to be the MVP this year..
Now he isnt even in the discussion....
it's not the injuries, but the repeated incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5