:pop: "I stayed at a Holiday Inn and I rest players"
<bang> Rudy Gay hurt
<swoop> Danny Green hurt
:pop: "I'm a genius!"
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:pop: "I stayed at a Holiday Inn and I rest players"
<bang> Rudy Gay hurt
<swoop> Danny Green hurt
:pop: "I'm a genius!"
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of course... he rested everyone and lost Kyle in that OKC game too,
<step on your foot in the paint> <bang> <twist knee> lucky it was only a grade 1 mcl sprain and he's 24 years young.
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Outside of the trolling. This season has been uncharacteristic with all these injuries. but if they get them now and not in the playoffs, one can hope.
Last season they were all in good health for most of the season (except that GAsol hand surgery, but he came back on schedule and without minutes management, looking real good righ away)...
Anyways, healthy all season, but come the playoffs kaput. one by one, the people's of middle earth started falling... and all that jazz.
It's odd that Pop is using Danny like a bar of soap when Kawhi sat out after looking fine two days ago. Unlike Leonard, Green clearly needs to rest and get this injury healed up. The team can't afford to lose Danny to a long-term injury.
Oh man, was this team on the Madden cover and I didn't know it?
This is not trolling son... he needs to get over himself and stop trying to control things he can't control. You can't control injuries.
Also this bullshit of saying Kawhi's not going to play 30 mins before the game is a big fuck you to the fans that spend their hard earned money to go watch the team's star...
For a person that talks so much about character and integrity, he needs to step up his own game, tbh...
One of the most overrated basketball trends/shticks of the era that this organization and its coach have popularized..
Fact is a lot of this injury shit is down to luck and genetics and can't be prevented by micromanaging.. ..
Truth bombs, but the media will keep eating that shit up :cry Pop for president! :cry he’s a geniusQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Exactly. What the fuck is pop thinking, every game I see Danny limping around with his groin injury yet low and behold pop throws him out there like he hates him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
I don't get Pop and his bullshit...
Already hesitant to buy tix for the Philly game since its a back to back... talk about ruining the product, tbh...
Spurs have been bottom 5 in games lost to injuries the last couple of seasons, despite having an old main rotation.
Pop's doing fine resting people and finding minutes for other players. He's got a deep and talented bench.
Pop has run his course. He needs to retire.
I keep telling yall, it's just shtick now, not real coaching.
Don't. I can guarantee a good portion of the team will miss that game with the other half missing the second Knicks game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Parker needs a damn rest after covering up the 250 pound of Aussie lard's shit
I stopped going to Blazers games because of that. Gotta love pop throwing that quote of saying rich people don’t need that much money but he’s here wasting peoples bank accounts with the resting schtick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
This bench isn't deep nor talented. They have 9 1/2 NBA caliber players on the roster, with at least one of those players out a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
Shut up already, we’re winning and injuries happen. He’s trying to persevere a career. Just because you want to see a player doesn’t mean they should play.
On a more serious note....
This isn't Pop's fault :lol It's Drunkford's for depending on 35+yr old fucks to stay healthy, and then buying cheap injury prone players like Rudy because he completely fucked up free agency with 12:01am deals. Not to mention Kawhi has never made it thru a whole season without an injury.
This is just a mess of a roster. A 31yr old Danny max extension isn't out of the realm....
So the most important part of that post still holds up then. Bottom 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Porker can retire that fat POS. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
:lol thinking RC is in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
14 players averaging at least 10 minutes per game on a winning team isn't deep? OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Everybody is getting hurt now, young, old... Anderson, Danny, Kawhi is 26(?)... just stop trying to control what you can't control. Play your best players, and if somebody gets hurt, they get hurt. Part of the game, tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Pop loses either way. He rests players dumb shits complain. If he were to play Kawhi every game and Kawhi got hurt, well dumb shits also complain.
35 year old outplaying your favorite player. Couldn't be me :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
He's in charge of the wheel while intoxicated. That's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by UZER
This isn't just about this year with Kawhi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
I wasn't responding the the first part of that post. The Spurs aren't deep and talented; they have average talent at best outside Kawhi, and unfornately a lot of that talent is repetitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
Well... I have to ask you ElNono, since you say you aren't trolling...
Do you really think Kawhi has nothing on that hamstring at this point?
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Also, to Chinook, yup Danny looks like he is the one needing the rest.
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Also, without Rudy Gay if he needs to heal that sore ankle out... we shall see a lot of Joff and Davis again. right?
Agree. I really want to see spurs and cavs next month but i dont wanna drop a couple hundred bucks and have Poop play some “not gonna show my hand” bullshit and sits the big guns for shits and giggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Nobody complained when Kawhi was playing all games and he got hurt... And he did get hurt every damn season... At least while he played, fans got their money's worth... The complain, if any, was Kawhi being injury prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
Pop isn't Thibs that runs his players to the ground, because besides of rest, he also plays a long rotation with short minutes.
That fat POS couldn't even last 2 rounds before injuring himself. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
16mil to relax in a hospital bed. Should thank his lucky stars MVPatty ball'ed out in '14. :lobt2:
Players play banged up all the time. How many times have we heard Manu or Tony talking Pop into playing them?Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
I mean, if it's that bad, why is he out there warming up? Worse yet, if it's that bad why is he a gametime decision?
One of the things I was fortunate to have going for me for many years by living in Charlotte was that Duncan had a lot of family members and friends that lived throughout NC. Also it was where Duncan played college ball. Whenever the Spurs played the Hornets it was always a guarantee Duncan was going to play. Pop never dared to ever rest Duncan for the Hornet games regardless of how bad their record was because he knew Duncan would not allow it. That was a privilege I enjoyed for many years that I didn't have to worry about the rest bs when the Spurs came to town.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
You really wanna know what it is? His job is not on the line, and he knows that, and he doesn't care anymore.
Any other coach plays the best players because if they don't, it's their job on the line.
Playing a large rotation =/= a team being talented. They play due to necessity and because the Spurs have to play somebody. If you think the likes of Brandon Paul is getting minutes on another playoff team I don't know what to tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
Mind giving me Fatty's WCF stats? :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Parker was in a hospital bed and still had better metrics than that obese aboriginal. In before you bring up the Rockets series where he rode Simmons, Aldridge, and Green's coattails :lmao
Don't play that shtick with Kawhi. Kawhi forced himself to play injured. Now it's time to play it safe in the RS. No one gives a shit about the RS either. Not Duncan, Manu, or Porker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Porker fluffer talking about the playoffs. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
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Originally Posted by ElNono
You can preach truth all day, but at this point PATFO apologists won't hear any of it. They're as much set in their ways as Kirbystan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Deflecting from this :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Here's the thing, I have zero doubts Kawhi wanted to play. He wouldn't be warming up otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
And don't give me the regular season thing... this team needs home court maybe even more than any other year.
Thinking about gunning for the RS when the Warriors are out there. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
We only need to have a higher seen than Lebron. That's it. Other coaches need to prove they can win 50 games. Pop does that with his eyes close.
Patty closes out now. And was last year too. Porker is shit. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Can we at least get HCA over Houston? Do you really want to play Frauden and CP0 in Houston with the calls they get? Have you seen us playing on the road?Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
We have no margin. Duncan ain't walking through that door and SuperManu is long retired, tbh...
Plus, at this rate, with this "genius resting" we're going to have half the team in the injured list by February...
I mean, if Kawhi is done for the season, just fucking tank. What's the point of being 1st or 2nd round fodder?
I mean, someone has to close in garbage time when all the good players are out :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Benched for a dude that can't shoot anything but an Instagram video :lmao
Elnono I thought you were better than this
Yeah, but if Kawhi get's injured again, their ain't no playoffs at all. Well yeah we'll play probably, but not for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Like you said, we have zero margin for error. We got no SuperManu or GoaDuncan. Kawhi is the franchise for many years. We aren't gonna fuck with that for the present RS.
Pop quit coaching after 2014, IMO... made a thread about that a year later... nothing has changed since, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by lil'mo
You can't control injuries. It's a contact sport. Some players will get hurt, some won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
I bet you "genius Poop" didn't think Danny, Anderson, Rudy, Joff will all get hurt... he can't control that. Not with all those guys, not with Kawhi.
If Kawhi is cleared to play, he should just play, and get over it. Maybe rest him back to backs, whatever.
Spurs were looking good without Porker in the Playoffs. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Kawhi going down kinda ruined all that. But it proves Porker was never needed. Dude is a shit bag already. :lmao
Yeah you can't control injuries but you can reduce the likelyhood it happens again. What part don't you understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Even as early as two years ago, you we're defending Pop and his antics. You've changed a lot since Harlem's passing. I don't know, maybe nobody to impress anymore. I kinda like the new and improved ElNono. Keep up the good work, son.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I am on board with that, which is why I have all along been concerned Kawhi really isn't well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
No way to know for sure.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
If that's the case, why are we risking LMA out there? Sit him until 2018... he's just as important for any championship aspirations. We're not going anywhere with half the team hurt either.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
What part of you can't control injuries you don't understand?
Yes really you dumb fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
:cry injuries happen all the time, guy needs to play 40 a night all the games after a serious injury :cry
LMA always paces himself. He is always on gear one. RS warrior. He hasn't had big injuries. He can play. Need any more info?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Son, I've been preaching this for a while, tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260234
Poop doesn't care anymore, tbh...
Was Tony's injury not that serious that he gets to play most days And Leonard needs at least two days off after every 20 minutes of court time?Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Y'all really bitching about regular season??
Can we see where we stand with injuries/rotation after the ASB/Rodeo??
SpursTalk acts like they've got all the answers and think their blogging asses are the ones heading to the HOF
Kawhi averages the least amount of MPG of any 'star' in the league... so 'pacing' isn't it. Any other excuse you wanna throw out there?Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
(And I'm not even blaming Kawhi, I'm blaming Poop)
We'll we have a good and decent PG that can replace him in the playoffs. Kawhi hasn't had a legit back-up 3 his whole Spurs career. And he's the Franchise. Not some washed up PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Resting players isn't about preventing injuries. It's about extending the career of the player. The more years they play, the more chances a fan has to see them play.
The total minutes and energy exerted per minute are different. Not all players play at such a high gear as Kawhi. I think you would know that by now. Kawhi is a fucking athletic tank with a crazy motor. He basically does everything for this fucking team when he is out there. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I'm out of this fucking pleb thread. Answered so many shit questions. :lol
I think we already understand what's at stake here.
And nono just mad he doesn't wanna waste money on tickets and not see Kawhi. Selfish really.
don't front, you're buying the ticketsQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
well, damn... (checks stubhub)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
Duncan was never babied like this, period. He played with a bone on bone knee. Don't wanna hear any more excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Maybe Kawhi needs to alpha up and remind Poop who's the franchise now...
With Pop doing 2006-2010 Pop shit, who do you think from his tree would be the best replacement, even if their leaf fell from the tree years ago?
Messing or Udoka for now. If Coach Bud or Brown become free doe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chucho
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Originally Posted by Robz4000
Budenholzer is a wet dream for me. Considering what he did with that 60 win Hawk team, imagine what he could do with this roster as is, right now. Throw out aging dudes in the next two years and hopefully DM continues to grow a bit where he's at least a consistent, legit starter, LMA doesn't fall off a cliff and we land a few other Spurs-level pieces with Kawhi in his prime, oh man...
Add Kerr to that listQuote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Yea, buyer beware.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I'm gonna allow it for this year cos the three seed is likely, we learn to play w/o Kawhi, and maybe it actually will make him fresher and less injury prone come the playoffs, and Kawhi ain't winning any major awards after missing however many games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Oh okQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
I’m talking about his current situation. Playing Kawhi normal minutes after he just returned from an injury he should’ve healed from long before he actually healed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Until I change my mind; cos fuck Pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The lack of actual info is another issue with this organization. You have to more or less wait for a wojbomb to really find out what’s going on. That shit doesn’t fly on a bigger market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
Not from his tree, but what about Pep? Do you think he'd be interested? He doesn't like to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Well I, for one, like watching the Spurs without Kawhi. Kawhiso is boring af, save him for the playoffs so Spurs can lose to GS in 5 or 6 instead of 4.
If a Kawhiso is boring, What would you call a LMAiso?Quote:
Originally Posted by vander
He's a little quicker about it. Doesn't seem to take up the bulk of the shot clock with the other 4 guys just standing and watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Surely playing a large rotation of bad players due to necessity would lead to a bad record then? Because the current 55 win pace is not due to Kawhi's play, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
We've seen this song and dance before from 2008 to 2011. The Spurs have a core of really good players, but the roster outside that core is lacking. The play of said core players has also netted the Spurs a large amount of success in close games that have helped pad the record.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
Yes, we've seen it from 2012 to 2014 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
The 2012-2017 Spurs actually had proven depth. This year's version doesn't even have a third big.Quote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
:lol so accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmac87
Resting doesn't lead to more injuries. Just bad luck combined with the frequency of games.
Really? Pop has overused/abused of 4-down this season with LMA in the paint. Only if he gets double-teamed he passes... Sadly, this offense is so predictable in 2017/18 NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by vander
It was great with Tim Duncan in the early 2000's. But LMA isn't dominant like Duncan and after almost 20 years I would say it has become very antiquated.
Or it's time to leave San Antonio.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Like I've said before, Pop has become more conservative than ever about minutes management, the two bigs style over small ball, the iso/mid-range when all is about space-space and three-point shooting in the league, sitting the hot hand because "minutes/rotation", the offseason questionable decisions...He won't change at this point.
If a player wants to win a ship in today NBA, he needs to join other superstars on a team with a modern game-style.
That article of Moore about Pop being the best coach but also being too much reluctant to adjust has cost the team at least 2 playoffs series in 2015 and 2016.
Agreed. I honestly believe pop wanted to retire a few years ago. From what I understand pop staying as the coach was part of the deal for lma to join the team. He just seems to have lost that hunger and is just there.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
My guess is since the Spurs are winning games without no Kawhi that pop sees no reason to rush him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
TODAY
Kawhi: Why am I resting so much?
Pop: Son, I want you to have a long and prosperous career. I don't want you to go out like a Derrick Rose, Brandon Roy, Joakim Noam.
I care about you as a person, not just as a basketball player.
CONTRACT TIME:
Kawhi: Friends say I should hookup with other superstars in LA and play for a title.
Pop: Do what you think is best for you son, don't worry about me. Just know I care about you and love you.
Kawhi: You know, you've always been like a father to me and I appreciate it.
MEDIA INTERVIEW:
ESPN: So why did you resign with the Spurs versus the super team in LA.
Kawhi: Pop
I can bet anyone $100 Kawhi stays a Spurs for the next 3 years.
Friends will tell him that if Pop loves him in the way he says, he should pay him that max money. How do FOs show love in contract talks? With $$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by Old School 44
I guess all this "love as a person not just as a baller" thing will end badly when the Spurs don't put the money on the table...
Do you mean for the rest of his current contract? A safe bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Anyway, we're not talking about this contract, we'll talking about the next...
But what is the Spurs' core right now? Many folks would argue that it starts and ends with Kawhi, and he obviously can't be used to explain the wins so far this year. I agree with you that starting in 2011, the team had a 4-8 or so that were well above their counterparts on other teams. The Medium Three, Diaw and Patty moved into the team's core and gave them a huge advantage over other rosters even if they lacked the 1-3 that Miami or OKC had. That was lightning in a bottle though, and no one should expect the team to be able to replicate that so long as Kawhi and LMA are making the max and guys like Pau and Mills are getting deals that are at least market value. There was a time when the salaries Tim, Boris, Danny and Kawhi combined to fit into a max slot. It was a huge reason why they were able to get a title. LMA took less, and Kawhi may or may not follow suit on his next extension. But they aren't giving up what Tim and Tony did to keep the team together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
20-21 season is not on his current contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
3 years from now is 12/29/2020. Which would be the 2020-2021 season. He would have signed another contract by then.