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ive seen multiple ppl on multiple threads saying EVERY doctor is saying kawhi is fine...thats not true...only the spurs doctors are saying that...the other ones he has gone to has said something is wrong...that's a very significant piece of information...so stop painting it as if kawhi is being stubburn...the guy feels what he feels, and other doctors are seeing an issue
Link to where other doctors sqid he was still injured?
I believe they didnt say shit because of dr confidentiality.
Otherwise post the links. Or are you speading fake news?
Link to where other doctors said he was still injured?
I believe they didnt say shit because of dr confidentiality.
Otherwise post the links. Or are you speading fake news?
either SAS or Skip (cant remember) this morning said that he spoke to ppl in the organization that said multiple doctors kawhi had seen said there was an issue with where the tendon connects to the bone, with one doctor even saying that it may need some cleaning up...only spurs doctors have said there is no issue...this is the first time any of us have heard what kawhi's outside doctors have said, and apparently it is different from the spurs staff...they reported even after his second opinion said something was wrong, he went for a third, and THEY said something was wrong too...
then Shannon told a story about when he injured his shoulder, and was cleared to play by his team staff, AND the second opinion...so he believes kawhi does have an issue...but all that is moot because contrary to what ppl on here are assuming, kawhi is feeling AND hearing something else from other docs
here s the link...watch from 6:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuFrDPecJUg
the 6:10 and 8:45 points are where he talks about what the other doctors have said...they said something is wrong...only our doctors are saying he should play
I believe that was the quote shared via Woj from a recent videoQuote:
"he's been cleared by the Spurs doctors and outside doctors, and it is on him.."
Why people make so much threads about the same shit?
i hear u...but Skip wasn't even assuming...he stated it as fact that this happened...and considering we ARE talking about kawhi...it sounds accurate...kawhi has never been a mentally weak person...dude has always went above and beyond what was expected of him...to to thrash him because we want him playing is unfair...he deserves the benefit of the doubt...if he thinks something is wrong, and there are reports saying outside doctors are saying the same thing, i would more believe thatQuote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
But then Dipstick Skip goes on to say the Uncle is the agent and manager. Something Kawhis sister (allegedly) shot down in a tweet. So can we trust anything Skip says? Isn't he known to make shit up?
not in this case...but isn't it known kawhi's uncle is managing him though? so in that case skip would be right...either way, remember skip is a huge spurs fan...so he wouldnt maliciously make up a story about doctors saying kawhi is injured...not to mention he gave very specific details about what they said...if he was making general statements, or being vague, that would be a red flag...but this is legit...more legit than the speculation ppl have been having for sure...and like i said, it lines up with what has been going on, and the personalities involved...Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
he then went on to talk about the specific treatment methods kawhi has been doing with the spurs that he has issue with...skip has insiders in the organization...he even said he spoke to some last night...so i definitely believe this report
I'm wondering if his Uncle managing (or not) has ever been verified. There's this:Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
These poor bastards can’t even wipe their own asses let alone spread fake news
I mean everything I've read/seen about Kawhi is he loves to play and is a workhorse. I have a hard time believing he's just sitting out because he wants max $$ or because his Uncle wants him to, or w/e other theories out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
I think he genuinely feels pain, even if minor, and is scared to play through it. They say he is working hard to return, so hopefully that is the case. People are quick to turn on our guys here, that much is obvious. They hear rumors and run with em
This is all I've seenQuote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenh.../#243dd50e701aQuote:
Impact Sports represents the likes of Lavonte David, Robert Quinn, Travis Benjamin, Laquon Treadwell and Brandon Flowers among its roughly forty NFL clients. Additionally, it has grown a basketball division in the recent past, with its marquee client being San Antonio Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard.
Right, so either Jabbri is right and the Uncle is NOT his agent or Skip is right and he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
I'm just trying to establish cred.
But yes everything Kwa has ever shown would have us believe no way in hell is he faking it or pulling some :lol Todays NBA Player bullshit.
Yea, and Impact Sports still list him as a client on their site. Their twitter (although it's been a while since updating) still has a picture of him too as the main guyQuote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
https://twitter.com/impactsportsinc?lang=en
so no direct quote from a doctor that looked at Kawhi?
Fake news thread tbqh
I've said before that not all medical opinions were coincident -why keep looking for other opinions after5 months if all were the same?- but no one here wants to hear that Spurs' doctors could be wrong eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2k5
"The same doctors that helped Parker??" Like every injury is the same and every body reacts in the same way. Sometimes its easier to heal a broken tendon than fixing a tendon that surgery can't help.
But I guess people love drama and morbid stories like "but but he wants to go to LA" instead of believing he really feels pain and is still uncomfortable with his quad.
What people don't get is saying there isn't structural damage doesn't mean he can't feel pain and quad's malfuctions.
But it's easier to roast a player for feeling pain "Yeah he's such a coward, we pay millions to him, what a crybaby"
But those same fans wouldn't give him a contract if he aggravates it playing now..."Nah he's fucked, he aggravated his quad injury...Why he played if he didn't feel 100%? Don't give him a contract, it's his fault if he played injured"
Pain is a medical symptom that something isn't right.
Playing through an injury never led to good things.
"but but LA...he wants to go to LA" REALLY? Or you're projecting onto an NBA player what YOU would want...
Both could be true, Impact Sports could be his official representation (contracts, endorsements etc.) but his uncle could be handling the day to day stuff and may be the one the Spurs are primarily interacting with. This shit has gone from just the pre-season to potentially all season and all sorts of rumors that its hard to know what is true. I think everyone can agree that hopefully all of this gets settled during the off-season, either everything ends up working out or they part ways and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
Is there a direct quote from the team doctors? Also why go to the same doctor unless he's telling Kawhi something contradictory to what the Spurs staff has stated?Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
His uncle is like his PR. He deals with media, NBA officers...That's why he traveled to China with Kawhi and managed his public image there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
Agree. Since we know Kawhi only cares about basketball, it seems like his uncle is his voice in front media, officers, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
Kawhi had the same uncle and the same family during his 6 years in SA. Nothing happened.
Then he gets injured and people suddenly believe he wants to go to LA..Kawhi wasn't from SoCal the previous years? He forgot where he was from the previous years? Why he didn't want to leave before?
Just crazy rumors.
Again, a bit of common sense doesn't hurt.
Kawhypo-con-driac
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by daledondale
attention
did skip mention whether or not troy aikman is still gay?
Spurs have said he is cleared to play. Thats a factQuote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
No need to hear from team doctors if hes cleared to play
Fake news thread so far tbqh
Btw im not saying Kawhi doesnt feel pain, he might but its fake news to say private doctors have openly disagred with Spurs diagnosis
Numb Nutts, did you hear from Shannon Sharpe?Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Broken collarbone. Was cleared to play by both team doctors AND his private doctor.
Tests don't always reveal everything, so STFU.
True that we have yet to see any PROOF of Kwas doctors findings. Just talking heads spinning.
Good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Because I believe Skip used the term "agent".
Anyways....
Glad to see with all the fake news about Kwa being difficult we are now getting some input that he may well indeed still be hurt. Hurt enough to not play. Regardless of what chip eating couch sitting 40% body phat SpurPoster says.
Clearing him to play doesn't mean he is injury free, all it means is they think he's good enough to play, players are cleared to play with injuries all the time. Really we don't know enough information from either side so we're left to speculate and come up with crazy ass theories until another rumor pops up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
You gotta be shitting meQuote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
Of course we mean good enough to play. No player is injury free. A fucking broken nail could be considered an injury :lmao
Congratulations on the stupidest post on the subject. And thats saying something :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
None of the retardation you said disputes the fact that its fake news to say private doctors have openly disagreed with Spurs diagnosis
To the contrary, Shannon Sharps injury misdiagnosis speaks volumes and is directly on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
He's been "cleared to play" since December, which is what he did. Then something caused them to shut him down (either Pop or Kawhi), stating the team has cleared him to play means nothing since he was already cleared to play in December.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
And none of that proves any private doctor openly disagreed with spurs diagnosis
Fake news thread
At this point in time I agree it is merely speculation and hearsay. No verified reports.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
It has been confirmed. He confirmed it this morning.
maybe the backlash of all the "his uncle is controlling him" talk will force him to stay with the spurs just to prove those reports wrong :downspin:
It's definitely not fake news... The second and third opinions said something different from Team doctors