Kawhi's New Jordan Deal Stalled

Maybe Jordan is disgusted with Kawhi's softness and is like, "I had a 110 degree fever and Ebola and still played through that shit to score 88 points in a game...fuck this pussy" tbh.

I think you are hearing whispers with a common theme of “Kawhi’s camp”. Are the rumors true? I dont know but there is some consistency there.

Kawhi should do whatever he thinks is good for him, I’m just saying I hope there are not people really trying to pull him from SA

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Maybe Jordan is disgusted with Kawhi's softness and is like, "I had a 110 degree fever and Ebola and still played through that shit to score 88 points in a game...fuck this pussy" tbh.

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I bet Jordan would take him in Charlotte.

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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber

And this is why no big Star is ever gonna wanna play for this shit city. Kawhi would be making hundreds of millions in endorsements if he played in LA or NY or Golden State.

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You can say that about the whole entire league outside of NYC,LA,Chicago,Houston,Philadelphia,Miami,Bay Area. I would advise a retard like you to go be a fan of one of the cities I listed.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I just really hope this is not another part of the possible “big market” drip campaign in Kawhi’s ear. I don’t know if any of that stuff is true, but the potential for that is there.

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Only if you think the premise that the market in where a guy plays determines his shoe deal, is valid.

If you think the premise is false -there are many examples to prove is false- this news means only one thing: his camp doesn't want to sign a deal for the same money that inferior talents already got with Jordan brand. That's all.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Only if you think the premise that the market in where a guy plays determines his shoe deal, is valid.

If you think the premise is false -there are many examples to prove is false- this news means only one thing: his camp doesn't want to sign a deal for the same money that inferior talents already got with Jordan brand. That's all.

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I think it’s debatable. I agree 100% there are examples of small market guys doing just fine; that does not mean that players in bigger markets don’t have more opportunity. They are not mutually exclusive takes.

It’s more about, whether it’s “true” or not, having people in Kawhi’s ear.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I bet Jordan would take him in Charlotte.

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He definitely would but he would be on his ass non-stop, tbh.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I bet Jordan would take him in Charlotte.

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After reading the article I think this could be a negotiating tactic on both sides, As the article states that later this year when the contract expires Nike reserves the right to match any offer that Leonard receives. Nike might be waiting to see what offers on He receives before committing to a larger shoe contract. Leonard’s representation is probably going to want to see what the other offers are before excepting Nikes $20 million shoe contract offer.

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Maybe Jordan is disgusted with Kawhi's softness and is like, "I had a 110 degree fever and Ebola and still played through that shit to score 88 points in a game...fuck this pussy" tbh.

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Before the tradeline, Jordan said he would trade his best player only for Kawhi.

But I guess you don't let a fact ruin your dramatic theory, right?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

t’s more about, whether it’s “true” or not, having people in Kawhi’s ear.

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When a player is close to sign a long-term contract with a team or a multiple-years endorsement deal, there are always rumors.

Nothing is sure and people can only speculate...That's why I try not to over-read between lines. Only time will tell the truth.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

I called crazy those guys saying Kawhi isn't injured/doesn't want to play...Not being able to stay on court makes players lose money. No doubt about it.

Having said that, "not-playing" doesn't seem a factor in this case, like the article says Jordan brand tends to be very stingy on players deals

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Yes it’s preposterous to think that someone as competitive as Kawhi, who lives in the gym all summer, would willingly not play. It’s ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Agreed. I really can't believe Garrett is right about Kawhi being cleared but unwilling to play the whole season. Or that's he a puppet of an uncle who doesnt know what he's doing. It's hurting Kawhi's rep, could cost him a supermax, and is killing ancillary income like the shoe deal. He's always seemed too hungry to just take a season off. You only get so many in your prime. He must be hurt or really at least believe he's hurt.

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Dr. Ferret might have treated many of San Antonio’s elite as a chiropractor, but he is doing himself and his office no favors by publicly slandering the Spurs top player and making some backseat driver analysis of his mental state. He might want to be more concerned about his own mental state, as that was an incredibly stupid thing to say unless he can prove it. Also who wants to go see a doctor who likes to go on the radio talking about about people’s private medical concerns and presumed mental state? If you live in San Antonio I’d advise you to stay clear of Dr. Ferret. :toast

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Yes it’s preposterous to think that someone as competitive as Kawhi, who lives in the gym all summer, would willingly not play. It’s ridiculous.

Dr. Ferret might have treated many of San Antonio’s elite as a chiropractor, but he is doing himself and his office no favors by publicly slandering the Spurs top player and making some backseat driver analysis of his mental state. He might want to be more concerned about his own mental state, as that was an incredibly stupid thing to say unless he can prove it. Also who wants to go see a doctor who likes to go on the radio talking about about people’s private medical concerns and presumed mental state? If you live in San Antonio I’d advise you to stay clear of Dr. Ferret. :toast

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If he would have said this about any other player in the league, esp the terms he used and the whole "mental" thing I would say the same, he was low and very unprofessional.

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Yes it’s preposterous to think that someone as competitive as Kawhi, who lives in the gym all summer, would willingly not play. It’s ridiculous.

Dr. Ferret might have treated many of San Antonio’s elite as a chiropractor, but he is doing himself and his office no favors by publicly slandering the Spurs top player and making some backseat driver analysis of his mental state. He might want to be more concerned about his own mental state, as that was an incredibly stupid thing to say unless he can prove it. Also who wants to go see a doctor who likes to go on the radio talking about about people’s private medical concerns and presumed mental state? If you live in San Antonio I’d advise you to stay clear of Dr. Ferret. :toast

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Youre dumb

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Yes it’s preposterous to think that someone as competitive as Kawhi, who lives in the gym all summer, would willingly not play. It’s ridiculous.

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Yet it's still happening ... and you're still in denial. I call that ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by SuperCam

there's a possibility he's holding out on negotiation until he can come back to the table and say he's joined a big market team tbh...

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

20mil total (5mil per), 20mil per is Lebron type money. He'd be making less than guys like Paul George, Lillard, and Irving. If you factor in Kawhi was top 10 in jersey sales and has better accolades than those guys I'm not sure his camp is being that unreasonable, but like the article mentioned Jordan brand tends to offer less than the other brands.

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Read that wrong. My bad. 5mills/per is weak sauce tbh

You have to market yourself heavily to get more money from shoe companies. Kawhi doesn’t want to do that. Its more than just play on the court and jersey sales.

Kawhi is seemingly wanting his cake (Supermax, money like other stars) but not wanting any of the responsibility that comes with that (talking to media, promoting yourself excessively outside of the gym).

So if a player doesn't want to be a media clown promoting himself excessively he doesn't deserve the supermax? I get it about shoes brands deals but not for NBA teams' contracts.

Most franchises would love to give their money to a guy who doesn't talk nor put their numbers over team success, who doesn't question them in front media, who doesn't have fake Twitter accounts to criticize his former coach and teammates, who doesn't get fined for disrespecting rivals and fans in a game...

But it seems all it matters in today NBA is being willing to play the off court-media game. Sad times.

Someone needs to put a hit out on his uncle

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

So if a player doesn't want to be a media clown promoting himself excessively he doesn't deserve the supermax? I get it about shoes brands deals but not for NBA teams' contracts.

Most franchises would love to give their money to a guy who doesn't talk nor put their numbers over team success, who doesn't question them in front media, who doesn't have fake Twitter accounts to criticize his former coach and teammates, who doesn't get fined for disrespecting rivals and fans in a game...

But it seems all it matters in today NBA is being willing to play the off court-media game. Sad times.

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I do think if you want that rare Supermax, that ya, you should have some responsibility as the face of the franchise. Does that mean he doesn’t “deserve it” or wont get it? Probably not. But it’s not outrageous to think that someone who wants to paid like the top dogs takes on the responsibilities of the top dog.

That doesn’t mean you have to be selfish or whatever, but Tim was a leader and never let teammates have to answer for him or the franchise. He was present.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

You have to market yourself heavily to get more money from shoe companies. Kawhi doesn’t want to do that. Its more than just play on the court and jersey sales.

Kawhi is seemingly wanting his cake (Supermax, money like other stars) but not wanting any of the responsibility that comes with that (talking to media, promoting yourself excessively outside of the gym).

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Talking to the media/promoting themselves isn't what makes them marketable. There's a reason why Kawhi, who barely talks, is one of the top jersey sellers. Most people don't care about the other shit, in fact it can be a negative for a person's image (you need an appealing personality, and in a way Kawhi's quietness is his appeal).

Bottom line is play, ability and accolades on the court. Lebron, Curry and Durant didn't get their endorsements because they did media interviews and promoted themselves, they got them because they are among the best in the league and have the hardware to back it up. No one would give a shit about them if they were average players.

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Originally Posted by rasuo214

Talking to the media/promoting themselves isn't what makes them marketable. There's a reason why Kawhi, who barely talks, is one of the top jersey sellers. Most people don't care about the other shit, in fact it can be a negative for a person's image (you need an appealing personality, and in a way Kawhi's quietness is his appeal).

Bottom line is play, ability and accolades on the court. Lebron, Curry and Durant didn't get their endorsements because they did media interviews and promoted themselves, they got them because they are among the best in the league and have the hardware to back it up. No one would give a shit about them if they were average players.

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You are incorrect in many regards.

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

"But discussions broke down abruptly because representatives for Leonard didn't feel that the new deal reflected the forward's accomplishments and standing within the league, sources said."

Let me guess who is one of the representatives...

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LaVar Leonard :lol

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

You are incorrect in many regards.

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The numbers back me up and history backs me up, but sure enlighten me on how I am "incorrect in many regards"

NBA will feature Kawhi if he plays. Him not playing hurts, but to be honest what’s hurt the most is his silence that allows rumors like he may have a career threatening condition or he won’t play with pain, or he’s moody and willing to give up a prime season bc he’s mad at the front office. Why do a big multi year deal with such an unpredictable future?