Word is that Casey wants him out
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Word is that Casey wants him out
Sounds like "our" kind of playerQuote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
Could we possibly trade Barry for him? Would that make sense? And then give Ebi the minutes that Barry would have gotten. Don't think the salaries match though, but maybe RC could figure something out.
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that generally means you can't qualify academicallyQuote:
choosing Arizona over Duke, Texas, Kansas and UNC
I would guess the Spurs would wait until he was waived.
It doesn't matter how good your ar academically. As long as you can play ball, they will accept you. Arizona is a very good basketball school. I was pissed when Ebi didn't go, since i'm a zona fan. He pretty much screwed them up for 2 years. Because he committed to going, a lot of quality bigmen didn't go.Quote:
Originally Posted by IcemanCometh
Ebi was a 3+ GPA in high school. He had some great Prep All-Star games and found himself involved, similer to J.R. Smith. He wanted to go to college. He took to the last possible minute to decide, but he said he had several first-round promises.
My guess is the Wolves and the Spurs.
Ebi is very talented, but he is RAW. He won't contribute anything for your team now. In a few years time, he'll be a very good player.
Odom was a so-so comparison. Believe it or not, he's closer to a Marion or Kirilenko. Better shooting potential than Marion, but creater than Kirilenko, but not as athletic.
He'll make a great third-option on a team one day, but that's not today.
And to echo what ucskk said, Arizona is a top-5 NBA talent producing school. I wasn't sure what to make of the "wouldn't qualify" statement. Duke is obvious the most prestigious of the group, academically, but Arizona has pretty high standards for their players. Just ask Juwann McClellan, who missed a summer school course when his father died and has been ruled ineligable for the fall semester.
Yep. By the way, i'm so pissed that they didn't win it all last year. They were so close.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
That's fine. We don't need him to be that now. He's 21. Sign and stash, a la Stephen Jackson.Quote:
He'll make a great third-option on a team one day, but that's not today.
I just don't see him developing without PT. Sitting him does he or the Spurs no good. He's from Texas. My guess if the Spurs want him in a few years, they'll be strongly considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
He needs lots of playing time and the assurance that he won't be pulled for a bad shot or poor pass.
It was a crying shame that Channing and Salim became the first ever Lute Olsen four-yar class to never know a Final Four.Quote:
Originally Posted by usckk
Every other graduating player had been to at least one.
They were one shot away in 2003, one shot away in 2005. Sad.
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Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
My thoughts on him exactly. He's a lot like a rookie QB. He's a deer in the headlights but it will just take him some time to adjust. They guy has been a gym rat. He practices hard. But he's been known to do stuff like rip his jersey off during summer league games and in general dumb stuff like that.
A year on the IR did Jackson a world of good. He got a chance to learn the organization and the team's system. He was signed in the summer of 2001, was starting by December of 2002, and was a key player in the 2003 playoff run. Devin Brown went through similar growing pains, athough he spent more time on the active list.Quote:
I just don't see him developing without PT. Sitting him does he or the Spurs no good. He's from Texas.
Pop is real good at taking other team's castoffs, breaking down their egos, and turning them into Spurs material. Part of that recipe is time on the inactive list.
Oddly enough, Jackson was Arizona's first prep-to-pro commit, Ebi was its last...
Just ironic.
He could work. Good coaches make good players. But just believe me, he's raw and will not help a contending team for a year, minimum. Likely two. On top of that, you'll need to commit to him. Allow him to fail. He'll learn.
LeBron said he was one of the best players he ever played against. That means something.
That's the thing we won't need him for a few years until Bowen retires, and with Bowen possibly mentoring him he could be even better. I definitely htink he could be a good addition, the problem is I don't really see the Spurs signing him if he gets waived, I think they'd probably trade for him if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
In my opinion, Ebi isn't a case of mentoring. He's sat behind and practiced with Garnett for two years. Hasn't gotten him very far.
Ebi simply needs to play. He don't do one thing well right now, so he really cannot impact a game. His averages last seson were 27 minutes, 13.5 points, 8 rebounds in the two games he played. Not bad, though I'm not sure who against and all...
You can use Jackson, but he had played in various league's bfore he got to the Spurs. Ebi hasn't had that "luxery"...
well if that's the case then yeah I don't really think he'd be of any use to the Spurs at the moment. He's definitely not going to get much playing time here. But I think if we can get him for a low price or without giving up much then it wouldn't hurt just to have him on the roster.
Maybe we could stash him away for a year or two. Kinda like we did with SJax.
He's obviously not a bad signing. I just don't think it's good for him, because he needs PT.
Forgive me moment of ebonics..."He don't do anything well" ?!! WTF?
Must have ben in a hurry...
He had his best game against the Spurs in the season finale. It was a garbage game but still, the second string spurs are no laughing stock.
This was in today's paper.
"Seeking a way to extend forward Ndudi Ebi's fledgling career with the team, the Timberwolves have petitioned the NBA for an exception to the eligibility rules for the new Developmental League system. Ebi, a 2003 first-round draft pick, made only 19 appearances for a total of 86 minutes in his first two NBA seasons, yet would not qualify to play in the "D" league as a Wolves property. Currently, in the new affiliation system, a player can be assigned to a developmental team during his first two seasons only." Minneapolis Star Tribune
"If the exception isn't granted, Ebi might be released by the end of the month despite a guaranteed salary ($803,600) for this season. He still could play in the minor league -- but the Wolves would lose his rights. Team owner Glen Taylor and General Manager Jim Stack confirmed the club's request on Ebi's behalf." Minneapolis Star Tribune
"Without specifying details of the team's petition -- believed to be based on Ebi's age (21) for this entire season -- Taylor said only Ebi and one other player would be affected by the exception. Boston's Kendrick Perkins is believed to be the second player. There is no age requirement in the current rules." Minneapolis Star Tribune
Here's hoping for a denial.
I guess at worst he'll sign with another team where he can get PT for a short contract, then afterwards the Spurs can go after him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
I wonder if there isn't a good chance they make an exception since had the rule been into place, last year would have been his rookie year.
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Originally Posted by wildbill2u
No, User is 6'4" with an 89" wingspan ... it's not weird looking at all, and he's really good at reaching shit on the top shelf. :) :lol
Ebi upset with T-Wolves efforts to get him to NBDL
Associated Press
MINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Timberwolves are petitioning the NBA for an exception that would allow them to send third-year pro Ndudi Ebi to the NBDL, something that came as a surprise to Ebi.
"I'm not a development league player. I'm an NBA player," Ebi said Friday after practice. "I've been playing against NBA players since I was 15 years old. I'm an NBA player. I'm not a developmental league player, period."
Entering his third season in the NBA, Ebi is not eligible under a new rule that allows teams to assign players with less than two years of experience to the NBDL.
The Timberwolves are hoping that the league would allow the 21-year-old Ebi, who was drafted in the first round in 2003 straight out of high school, to be "grandfathered in."
"That's a great word for it," new coach Dwane Casey said. "This kid needs to play. He's a talented athlete. He needs to get a feel for the game with bodies out there and how to navigate those players."
Ebi has played in just 19 games in his two seasons, including only two last year. He looked impressive in one of them, scoring 18 points against San Antonio in the final game of the year.
He hasn't seen much playing time this preseason either, averaging less than 4.0 minutes and 3.0 points in three games.
"It's premature to speculate on whether Ndudi is truly a candidate for this type of option," Ebi's agent, Dan Fegan, told The Associated Press. "But the spirit of the rule, on both sides of the table, was to help younger players get an opportunity to develop. Ndudi wants to be a good teammate and good part of the organization and is willing explore the options that will help him do that."
Casey, general manager Jim Stack and vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale think a stint in the D-league, where he would get much more playing time, would help Ebi develop.
"We're just looking at options, there's nothing wrong with that," Casey said. "We're trying to see if it's a possibility. This kid needs to play. He's a talented athlete. He needs to get a feel for the game with bodies out there and how to navigate those players."
The biggest mistake the Timberwolves may have made was letting news of their proposal slip out before discussing it with Ebi.
McHale declined comment on Friday and Casey apologized for not informing Ebi sooner, saying he wasn't surprised at Ebi's initial resistance.
"No player should expect themselves to be a D-league player. I'd be very disappointed with any player who was jumping up and down saying, 'Hey, I want to go to the D-league.' That's not to be unexpected."
As upset as Ebi was, he said he would need time to think about how he would take such a proposition, if it comes.
"I've been doing this for a long time, but if that's how they feel, that's how they feel," Ebi said. "A lot of guys in my position would go crazy right now. But I know what I can do. My confidence is still the same.
"If that's what they want to do, I respect their decision. Basketball's a business, I understand that."
Casey said no decision has been made yet on whether Ebi will make the roster, even though his $800,000 salary is guaranteed this season, or if they would assign him to the D-league if that is an option.
"We haven't got to that bridge yet," Casey said. "At least I haven't."