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SAGirl
That's a nice clip from Sean. He makes a distinction between giving you his opinion and being an insider and knowing what is going on with Kiwi's group.
Good point. Wish many of the other talking heads would do this. Especially Chris Carter and Jalen Rose.
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BillMc
Sean is such a homer :lol and I mean that in a good way. You can just tell he really is an actual fan at heart and loves the team. Thanks for posting :tu
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Joseph Kony
Sean is such a homer :lol and I mean that in a good way. You can just tell he really is an actual fan at heart and loves the team. Thanks for posting :tu
:bobo Yeah, he's a homer but that makes him really likeable. Guy loves the silver and black.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcdnSPNZJ9o
Both Chris Carter and Broussard came out today saying Kawhi and his camp are innocent and the Spurs are throwing mud. It seems like the "groupies" are firing back through the talking heads.
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i talked to kawhi myself. he told me no one met a family member of a Spurs player last night.
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Originally Posted by
sventhedog
i talked to kawhi myself. he told me no one met a family member of a Spurs player last night.
Oh yeah? I talked to kawhi and he said he was going to new york knicks
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sventhedog
i talked to kawhi myself. he told me no one met a family member of a Spurs player last night.
Wait is HEB in NY?
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BillMc
This is very different from SJax’s take.
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BillMc
Good take. I'm with these people that if Kawhi could play he would and is trying to get some answers. I'm also going to say Tony comparing their injuries was not accurate or Kawhi would have had surgery.
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cd98
Wait is HEB in NY?
lots of Hebs in New York
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Game plan is simple
Trade kawhi for Trei Young
Sign Marc Gasol
Get Divincenzo
Get Mo Bamba
And then the Unicorn arrives
Marc Gasol, Unicorn, Lamarcus, Trei Young, Murray, Bertans, Bamba
Wooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Has this Nate Robinson quote been posted yet? Feels like there's a million Kawhi threads and yeah I know... Nate Robinson. Just an out-of-NBA midget trying to make noise so he could get noticed.
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/sp...nt-to-be-in-sa
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"From what I heard, from a little birdie, what I heard that the reason why he doesn't, not that he doesn't want to play, is that he doesn't want to be in San Antonio no more, is because that I heard a big bag was coming. But if he doesn't leave San Antonio that bag is not coming."
San Antonio is a great organization but a lot of people don't want to live in San Antonio. Honestly bro, a lot of that plays a part for a lot of guys in the NBA.
Believe you me, he definitely wants to be somewhere especially like being at home."
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NASpurs
"A big bag?"
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Originally Posted by
Joseph Kony
"A big bag?"
Nate Robinson had a big bag of cocaine before making up that bullshit.
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Ed Helicopter Jones
Nate Robinson had a big bag of cocaine before making up that bullshit.
"A big bag" of coke is as good a guess as anything. Any more guesses? A big bag of cow manure left from the rodeo in his locker?
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He’s talking about endorsement money
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Could one of the shoe companies have made a huge offer to him dependent on whether or not he goes to a bigger market?
Can endorsement money change that much going from SA to one of the bigger markets?
Even if that is remotely true, why would he be holding himself out this season if he can play right now? How would that affect the "big bag"?
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Ice009
Could one of the shoe companies have made a huge offer to him dependent on whether or not he goes to a bigger market?
Can endorsement money change that much going from SA to one of the bigger markets?
It's just another rumor. Nate Robinson has zero credibility to speak on behalf of Kawhi.
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I wonder how Silver feels about product companies forcing players in and out of certain cities and franchises. Pretty top notch shit right there.
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
Could one of the shoe companies have made a huge offer to him dependent on whether or not he goes to a bigger market?
Can endorsement money change that much going from SA to one of the bigger markets?
Even if that is remotely true, why would he be holding himself out this season if he can play right now? How would that affect the "big bag"?
I believe what Nate said when he said he just doesn't want to be here anymore. It's sounds weird but maybe he just hates living in SA so much he doesn't want to even play there anymore. I think it's very possible since he comes across to me as a pretty stupid guy. Shoe deals can definitely change depending on where you play. Kawhi is not a guy like Lebron who has the charisma and personality to sell shoes regardless of the location he plays in. I think that factors in with these shoe companies and that they probably believe the only way giving him a big deal is justified is that if he plays in LA or NYC.
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DAF86
I wonder how Silver feels about product companies forcing players in and out of certain cities and franchises. Pretty top notch shit right there.
Unfortunately I don't think he cares as long as the big markets like LA,NYC do well. Honestly though the super max was a bad idea by the owners. It doesn't protect teams from losing their superstars when you factor in the ridiculous shoe contracts they get by playing in big markets. Even if the superstar agrees to accept it it handicaps a team's cap flexibility to build a championship roster.
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DAF86
I wonder how Silver feels about product companies forcing players in and out of certain cities and franchises. Pretty top notch shit right there.
I doubt that selfish jew cares, he has no integrity.
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Originally Posted by
BillMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcdnSPNZJ9o
Both Chris Carter and Broussard came out today saying Kawhi and his camp are innocent and the Spurs are throwing mud. It seems like the "groupies" are firing back through the talking heads.
this is exactly what ive been saying...ppl think our front office is innocent in all this...most of the negative things about Kawhi has been speculation, where on the other hand, we KNOW Pop and the SA camp HAS been saying shady things...i can see how Kawhi's camp would be annoyed....
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BillMc
ppl ragging on Kawhi for getting a second opinion when she noted that Spurs management encourages it...yet this still throw shade by commending players who dont...
and if they were as conservative as ppl think about injuries, why did they let LA play the last game? why did they let Kawhi play after his second ankle sprain when he played vs the warriors? my point is while they me be MORE conservative than other teams, they still have an agenda...they still would let players play if it means giving the team a chance to win...with that said, it can see how they would subtly pressure kawhi to play so that the guys who they are loyal to most (manu and parker) get to ride out in the sunset with the highest chance to win, even if it means risking the guy who has only been here a couple years...yes kawhi is the franchise, but if you think the team doesnt favor manu and parker more, youre kidding...this isnt Pop of old, anymore...this is old pop...relationships mean more to him than anything else right now...and his relationship with manu and parker supersedes his relationship with kawhi
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
Could one of the shoe companies have made a huge offer to him dependent on whether or not he goes to a bigger market?
Can endorsement money change that much going from SA to one of the bigger markets?
Even if that is remotely true, why would he be holding himself out this season if he can play right now? How would that affect the "big bag"?
exactly...nate doesn't know shit...his sources are a bunch of high dudes from around the way small-talking about basketball
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daslicer
I believe what Nate said when he said he just doesn't want to be here anymore. It's sounds weird but maybe he just hates living in SA so much he doesn't want to even play there anymore. I think it's very possible since he comes across to me as a pretty stupid guy. Shoe deals can definitely change depending on where you play. Kawhi is not a guy like Lebron who has the charisma and personality to sell shoes regardless of the location he plays in. I think that factors in with these shoe companies and that they probably believe the only way giving him a big deal is justified is that if he plays in LA or NYC.
i cant beieve u guys are really taking NATE ROBINSON seriously...sigh...how far we have fallen...
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NOTHING nate robinson said makes sense, for very obvious reasons...if u guys cant see the reasons why, you dont understand how this works
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duncan2k5
i cant beieve u guys are really taking NATE ROBINSON seriously...sigh...how far we have fallen...
Only have fallen since you started posting
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tholdren
Only have fallen since you started posting
the irony...
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On top of 70 million more dollars, texas doesnt have a state income tax. California would charge an extra 8% of taxes. When you factor in 40 million a year thats more than his current shoe deal all by itself. If Kawhi leaves it on the table u know he hates it here
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I don’t understand how anyone at this point could be in favor of signing him to that Supermax contract? You want to talk about an organizational disaster. Imagine paying him 40+ million dollars in a given season and he is sitting it out like this season. Highly likely it will happen too. He has proven to be incredibly injury prone. And even worse unwilling to play through injuries. And because that money is completely guaranteed, He can just sit on his ass and collect the checks. He sat on his ass all season and collected 19 million.
What did the Magic end up paying Grant Hill to basically sit down with his ankle elevated?
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Originally Posted by
cutewizard
Game plan is simple
Trade kawhi for Trei Young
Sign Marc Gasol
Get Divincenzo
Get Mo Bamba
And then the Unicorn arrives
Marc Gasol, Unicorn, Lamarcus, Trei Young, Murray, Bertans, Bamba
Wooooooooooooooooooooooo
Marc Gasol fucking sucks. That's all the Spurs need, another washed up former star being paid $20-25 million a year.
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Originally Posted by
dbreiden83080
I don’t understand how anyone at this point could be in favor of signing him to that Supermax contract? You want to talk about an organizational disaster. Imagine paying him 40+ million dollars in a given season and he is sitting it out like this season. Highly likely it will happen too. He has proven to be incredibly injury prone. And even worse unwilling to play through injuries. And because that money is completely guaranteed, He can just sit on his ass and collect the checks. He sat on his ass all season and collected 19 million.
What did the Magic end up paying Grant Hill to basically sit down with his ankle elevated?
When has Kawhi been unwilling to play through injuries? Even his college coach said he played through them... He played through a twice injured ankle... All of our stars had moments when they missed significant time due to injuries... Do we vilify them and say they are unwilling to do so? The guy FUCKING PLAYED this season and you same fuckface fans were mad because he wasn't dominating... Then come to find out he was feeling pain and limping after each game and had to be shut down... Clearly he was INJURED just like ALL players have happen to them and couldn't go... NBA players don't purposefully sit out contract years you dumbfucks
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duncan2k5
When has Kawhi been unwilling to play through injuries? Even his college coach said he played through them... He played through a twice injured ankle... All of our stars had moments when they missed significant time due to injuries... Do we vilify them and say they are unwilling to do so? The guy FUCKING PLAYED this season and you same fuckface fans were mad because he wasn't dominating... Then come to find out he was feeling pain and limping after each game and had to be shut down... Clearly he was INJURED just like ALL players have happen to them and couldn't go... NBA players don't purposefully sit out contract years you dumbfucks
It’s hilarious how you give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt citing a shorter history than you do SA.
When it comes to the long history of SA protecting players and making sure they are healthy before they play, even to the detriment of the team, you ATTACK SA and hurled accusations around about them caring more about TP/Manu than Kawhi to the point they were willing to ruin Kawhi’s career potentially.
But, but, but Kawhi’s college coach said he played when injured!!! That’s all the proof you need and he would NEVER change.
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DPG21920
It’s hilarious how you give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt citing a shorter history than you do SA.
When it comes to the long history of SA protecting players and making sure they are healthy before they play, even to the detriment of the team, you ATTACK SA and hurled accusations around about them caring more about TP/Manu than Kawhi to the point they were willing to ruin Kawhi’s career potentially.
But, but, but Kawhi’s college coach said he played when injured!!! That’s all the proof you need and he would NEVER change.
SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now... He cares more about relationships... His most cherished relationship is with Manu and Parker... So he would put pressure on Kawhi to play for them so they can go out strong where in the past he never had to worry about that... If Manu and Parker weren't on the team, this Leonard issue would be a non-story, and everyone would accept the guy is hurt... But because the Spurs, Manu and Parker (notice they're the ONLY ones with shade being thrown) are so close, they are a bit jaded... They will realize the mistake they made when this is all over, and so will u guys... And just as with EVERYTHING I've been right with this year, I'll say I TOLD YOU SO!
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Ok, so let me get this straight. It’s Pop that has changed even though he has a longer track record and they get 0 benefit of the doubt.
But Kawhi, who has a 219M dollar deal on the line, has ZERO incentive or motive.
K.
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Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.
Kawhi has definitely played through injury (I don't think anyone has said that he's never played through an injury), but those other three guys have played through more than what Kawhi seems to not be willing to play through now. I don't think they can fathom why he's been sitting out most of the season with the injury that he has, because on the surface it doesn't seem that bad at all and I think all three of those guys would have been playing long ago with a similar ailment. Again, if it's that bad and it is legit bothering him to the point where he's not able to perform anywhere near his peak because of it, maybe Kawhi should saying something other than nothing.
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duncan2k5
SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now... He cares more about relationships... His most cherished relationship is with Manu and Parker... So he would put pressure on Kawhi to play for them so they can go out strong where in the past he never had to worry about that... If Manu and Parker weren't on the team, this Leonard issue would be a non-story, and everyone would accept the guy is hurt... But because the Spurs, Manu and Parker (notice they're the ONLY ones with shade being thrown) are so close, they are a bit jaded... They will realize the mistake they made when this is all over, and so will u guys... And just as with EVERYTHING I've been right with this year, I'll say I TOLD YOU SO!
Answer this question..and maybe it’ll put things in perspective from PATFO..
How do you stomach paying someone $20M this year and you clear him yet he’s only played 9 games and then leaves his teammates out to dry to an extent..
The player meeting was to get an answer from Kawhi..because they didn’t know. Not even PATFO truly know..yet he’s getting paid max money..
You don’t find that a bit frustrating?
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baseline bum
Marc Gasol fucking sucks. That's all the Spurs need, another washed up former star being paid $20-25 million a year.
Yes. Exactly. That’s what I need.
:pop:
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Kawhi m8
I doubt that selfish jew cares, he has no integrity.
:wow
:nope
:ihit
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Ice009
Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.
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The list of injuries those men played with is long and illustrious. Tim Duncan with his chronic bad knees. Didn’t Manu once play in a playoff series basically with a broken elbow? Leonard is sitting out for reasons that are personal. It’s pretty obvious. And the team calling him out and that leaking into the media was probably the last straw. Now he feels he can’t come back. It’s like he would be giving in.
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duncan2k5
SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now.!
If Pop did not care as much about basketball now or this team he would have retired. He has always been a perfectionist when it comes to this job and his passion. He doesn’t need the money. He has been the head coach of this team forever. It’s ridiculous to say he is not treating a player with the same care or enthusiasm because you think he doesn’t care about basketball as much anymore. That’s bullshit. Anybody who says that is basically trolling.
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I wonder if the Spurs make major summer moves in order to make Kawhi happy here. Free agent signings and maybe unloading older talent like Gasol.
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.
Kawhi has definitely played through injury (I don't think anyone has said that he's never played through an injury), but those other three guys have played through more than what Kawhi seems to not be willing to play through now. I don't think they can fathom why he's been sitting out most of the season with the injury that he has, because on the surface it doesn't seem that bad at all and I think all three of those guys would have been playing long ago with a similar ailment. Again, if it's that bad and it is legit bothering him to the point where he's not able to perform anywhere near his peak because of it, maybe Kawhi should saying something other than nothing.
Those other guys played twenty fucking seasons!!! OF COURSE they have had more opportunity to play through injury than Kawhi... The dude has been mtlr reliable in the playoffs, and most of the times he was "injured" before has been because of pop resting them... And how has Kawhi been mute? He gave a freaking interview on it just a little while back!? How often do u want him to run after the press? He DID say something in his last interview!!! You saying he hadn't doesn't make it true! Dude said he have it a try for the 9 games, and couldn't play his best...
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Originally Posted by
coachmac87
Answer this question..and maybe it’ll put things in perspective from PATFO..
How do you stomach paying someone $20M this year and you clear him yet he’s only played 9 games and then leaves his teammates out to dry to an extent..
The player meeting was to get an answer from Kawhi..because they didn’t know. Not even PATFO truly know..yet he’s getting paid max money..
You don’t find that a bit frustrating?
Players get injured ALL the time! Why would I get mad at them? I WANT him to come back when he is ready so I don't fuck up my investment by having him misdiagnosed and hurt worse... No player is stupid enough to purposely sit out in a contract year
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NASpurs
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dbreiden83080
The list of injuries those men played with is long and illustrious. Tim Duncan with his chronic bad knees. Didn’t Manu once play in a playoff series basically with a broken elbow? Leonard is sitting out for reasons that are personal. It’s pretty obvious. And the team calling him out and that leaking into the media was probably the last straw. Now he feels he can’t come back. It’s like he would be giving in.
If Pop did not care as much about basketball now or this team he would have retired. He has always been a perfectionist when it comes to this job and his passion. He doesn’t need the money. He has been the head coach of this team forever. It’s ridiculous to say he is not treating a player with the same care or enthusiasm because you think he doesn’t care about basketball as much anymore. That’s bullshit. Anybody who says that is basically trolling.
The list of injuries they also had to sit out for were numerous... Kawhi has also played through injuries... Just not as many because he OBVIOUSLY hasn't been in the league as long... Jesus christ, how isn't that obvious?
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Zach Lowe tweeted teams will be looking to trade for Kawhi around the draft. Obviously.
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Originally Posted by
duncan2k5
this is exactly what ive been saying...ppl think our front office is innocent in all this...most of the negative things about Kawhi has been speculation, where on the other hand, we KNOW Pop and the SA camp HAS been saying shady things...i can see how Kawhi's camp would be annoyed....
What does the Spurs front office win by throwing mud at the Kawhi situation? Alienate Kawhi?
Also, the one that said Kawhi doesn't want back is Nate Robinson. What kind of relationship does Nate have with RC or Pop? :lol
It is much more likely that Nate has some kind of relationship with some of the people that handle Kawhi.
I'm done speculating with this. I will just wait to see what happens and which side was the faggy one.
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duncan2k5
Players get injured ALL the time! Why would I get mad at them? I WANT him to come back when he is ready so I don't fuck up my investment by having him misdiagnosed and hurt worse... No player is stupid enough to purposely sit out in a contract year
There’s a difference between being hurt and injured....
I’m just pointing out facts. He’s getting paid 20M and played 9 games. Team doctors advise one thing yet the player goes against it..which is fine to an extent but leaving the team/players out to dry is not cool. Having them to answer your questions isn’t cool.
I’ve made it clear what I think is going on and it’s definitely a unique deal that’s NEVER happened in league history.,
So I get why it’s frustrating
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Sit out, collect your money, get traded to a bigger market, make up your lost money there after coming back 100% (instead of risking yourself carrying bums to a CF exit at best), and collect your new Jordan Brand contract money in that bigger market.
Makes sense.
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coachmac87
There’s a difference between being hurt and injured....
I’m just pointing out facts. He’s getting paid 20M and played 9 games. Team doctors advise one thing yet the player goes against it..which is fine to an extent but leaving the team/players out to dry is not cool. Having them to answer your questions isn’t cool.
I’ve made it clear what I think is going on and it’s definitely a unique deal that’s NEVER happened in league history.,
So I get why it’s frustrating
I don't remember you saying what you think is going on...
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SAGirl
I don't remember you saying what you think is going on...
Woj thread. Page 17. I quoted DPG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ewn8PhE098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcdnSPNZJ9o&t=235s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSwUbRe7i2Q
It really seems Kawhi and his camp are going on the offensive after Pop's "group' comments of the weekend by giving things to the talking heads.
Chris Carter yesterday (paraphrasing on all these) 'It is more about placing the streaks of 50 win games and making the playoffs ahead Kawhi's long term health."
Chris Broussard yesterday: "Spurs are nice to KL and his group to their faces but saying negative things to the media behind theirs backs. Essentially calling the Spurs disingenuous and that the leaks are from PATFO and meant to damage Kawhi's rep"
Stephen A today: "Kawhi is a quiet guy, doing nothing, but Spurs are throwing shade at him." Quotes Sjax without noting he has issues with Pop and may be biased.
All at once? Clearly, they have gone on the attack to portray KL as victim here. All 3 reporters pushing the story-line that the Spurs are to blame.
KL (or his people) vs Spurs in the media. Wow! It's like Kobe vs Shaq or Geroge Karl vs Boogie. Each playing the talking heads. So weird for the Spurs.
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coachmac87
Woj thread. Page 17. I quoted DPG
Now I saw it... Baseless speculation but with all that's being thrown around why not put that one out there? That's disrespectful and inconsiderate to teammates and the coaching staff if true. Frankly I wouldn't want to play with a teammate like that. I'd much rather belive this is all about an endorsement deal and the uncle. But for now, I am still assuming he's had a setback in his rehab...
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BillMc
It really seems Kawhi and his camp are going on the offensive after Pop's "group' comments of the weekend by giving things to the talking heads.
Chris Carter yesterday (paraphrasing on all these) 'It is more about placing the streaks of 50 win games and making the playoffs ahead Kawhi's long term health."
Chris Broussard yesterday: "Spurs are nice to KL and his group to their faces but saying negative things to the media behind theirs backs. Essentially calling the Spurs disingenuous and that the leaks are from PATFO and meant to damage Kawhi's rep"
Stephen A today: "Kawhi is a quiet guy, doing nothing, but Spurs are throwing shade at him." Quotes Sjax without noting he has issues with Pop and may be biased.
All at once? Clearly, they have gone on the attack to portray KL as victim here. All 3 reporters pushing the story-line that the Spurs are to blame.
KL (or his people) vs Spurs in the media. Wow! It's like Kobe vs Shaq or Geroge Karl vs Boogie. Each playing the talking heads. So weird for the Spurs.
Notice how Kellerman brought up the idea that Kawhi's people don't want him to be in SA due to him having lack of opportunities for endorsements. Once he brought up the idea Molly the dumb c-nt immediately interrupted him and brought up the Spurs misdiagnosis of Kawhi's injury. The dumb c-nt double downed at the end of the segment by saying Pop is throwing shade at Kawhi's camp. I laughed when Stephen A said it's really weird about what's going on with the Spurs and Kawhi and that he doesn't know what's going on. My reaction was it's not weird since its clear one side is at fault but you don't want to admit it since it's Kawhi's side that is causing all the problems and that goes against your racially biased pro-player agenda. It's clear there is an agenda here to take down the Spurs and ignore the truth about what's actually happening.
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The whole endorsement thing is stupid. The Admirable had a ton of endorsements while being in SA. He was all over TV back then.
It comes down two things: 1) Being very good and 2) Having a marketable personality.
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Notice how Kellerman brought up the idea that Kawhi's people don't want him to be in SA due to him having lack of opportunities for endorsements. Once he brought up the idea Molly the dumb c-nt immediately interrupted him and brought up the Spurs misdiagnosis of Kawhi's injury. The dumb c-nt double downed at the end of the segment by saying Pop is throwing shade at Kawhi's camp. I laughed when Stephen A said it's really weird about what's going on with the Spurs and Kawhi and that he doesn't know what's going on. My reaction was it's not weird since its clear one side is at fault but you don't want to admit it since it's Kawhi's side that is causing all the problems and that goes against your racially biased pro-player agenda. It's clear there is an agenda here to take down the Spurs and ignore the truth about what's actually happening.
You're right, she clearly changes the thrust of Max's question from endorsements to "hey the Spurs doctors screwed up" which shifts the blame back on the Spurs.
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The whole endorsement thing is stupid. The Admirable had a ton of endorsements while being in SA. He was all over TV back then.
It comes down two things: 1) Being very good and 2) Having a marketable personality.
I agree. I grew up in NC and I saw LJ and Alonzo get national commercials back in the day which was amazing considering back then Charlotte was even a lot smaller than what is now. I also remember Shaq and Penny getting a ton of commercials when they played in a super small market in Orlando. They got them because like you said they had marketable personalities just like Drob. Kawhi just doesn't have that personality.
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I'm speculating that this animosity grew last year in the WCSF and WCF. Spurs encourage Kawhi to play on a bum ankle against the Rockets, sprained it, got better and then had him play against the Warriors and re-injured. Kawhi being paranoid and weak minded had all trust he had with the team broken. Feeligns carried over the summer, from what I know he practiced elsewhere and not in SA. Uncle/whoever started whispering in his ear. Not being paid enough by Jordan brand, Finals MVP being paid shit by team, completely brainwashed and now he is doing this to preserve himself.
Pop being a military dictator type will not have this. Kawhi just lost himself the super max extension and possibly some titles with the Spurs, we could have beat the warriors if Kawhi was playing with LMA playing at this level.
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The list of injuries they also had to sit out for were numerous... Kawhi has also played through injuries... Just not as many because he OBVIOUSLY hasn't been in the league as long... Jesus christ, how isn't that obvious?
When did TD ever blow off a season when he was medically cleared to play by team doctors? Tim wanted to play when he needed knee surgery and he was younger than Leonard at the time.
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When did TD ever blow off a season when he was medically cleared to play by team doctors? Tim wanted to play when he needed knee surgery and he was younger than Leonard at the time.
Also keep in mind Tim was free agent in the summer of '00 and still wanted to play in the '00 playoffs even if it meant risking his future. I remember it well because I was in hschool at the time and was angry at Pop for not allowing Tim to play.
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I wonder how this affects the SPURS long term in free agency going forward. All the bad press on both sides i dont see helping the SPURS land a big fish moving forward. KL & LMA together would help us land a top tier free agent. But with only 1 star & and a bunch of role players doesn't look to appealing to potential free agents.
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Also keep in mind Tim was free agent in the summer of '00 and still wanted to play in the '00 playoffs even if it meant risking his future. I remember it well because I was in hschool at the time and was angry at Pop for not allowing Tim to play.
Peobably the reason long time spurs fans take the spurs side here.
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Also keep in mind Tim was free agent in the summer of '00 and still wanted to play in the '00 playoffs even if it meant risking his future. I remember it well because I was in hschool at the time and was angry at Pop for not allowing Tim to play.
Tim was a warrior pure and simple. It is why he has 5 rings. He should have 6, and easily could have won 7.. 2006 was the best Spurs team to not win it all.. Duncan scored 40 plus in game 7 against the Mavs.. It is why some players with talent bang around this league for a while, put up some stats, make way too much money and just retire.. While others retire as sporting legends.. He was all about that competition, his team and trying to be the best.. Leonard has shown to be selfish and soft..
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Lol People comparing dinky commercials to a lifetime Jordan Brand deal in a bigger market. Admiral wishes he could've sniffed that kind of money with his endorsments.
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The admiral had one of the best contracts in sports in his first few years as a spur . Doubt endorsement money ever mattered tbh . Dont remember the specifics but it was a contract along the lines that it allowed for adjustments to make sure he was amongst the top 2 earners of the nba.
Talk about sacrifice. Knowing the spurs couldnt afford to keep paying him that typeof contract & remain competitive. He tore it up & had it restructured . Took out the top earning component.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ewn8PhE098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcdnSPNZJ9o&t=235s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSwUbRe7i2Q
It really seems Kawhi and his camp are going on the offensive after Pop's "group' comments of the weekend by giving things to the talking heads.
Chris Carter yesterday (paraphrasing on all these) 'It is more about placing the streaks of 50 win games and making the playoffs ahead Kawhi's long term health."
Chris Broussard yesterday: "Spurs are nice to KL and his group to their faces but saying negative things to the media behind theirs backs. Essentially calling the Spurs disingenuous and that the leaks are from PATFO and meant to damage Kawhi's rep"
Stephen A today: "Kawhi is a quiet guy, doing nothing, but Spurs are throwing shade at him." Quotes Sjax without noting he has issues with Pop and may be biased.
All at once? Clearly, they have gone on the attack to portray KL as victim here. All 3 reporters pushing the story-line that the Spurs are to blame.
KL (or his people) vs Spurs in the media. Wow! It's like Kobe vs Shaq or Geroge Karl vs Boogie. Each playing the talking heads. So weird for the Spurs.
"clearly" Kawhi's people went to the media? Could it be that the hosts are making stuff up and speculating the SAME way we do every day on here? Hmmm...i guess that's impossible
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You're right, she clearly changes the thrust of Max's question from endorsements to "hey the Spurs doctors screwed up" which shifts the blame back on the Spurs.
So we are just going to ignore it then? Be mad at Molly for not bringing up the other side, but completely ignore what she actually said? Noted...
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dbreiden83080
Tim was a warrior pure and simple. It is why he has 5 rings. He should have 6, and easily could have won 7.. 2006 was the best Spurs team to not win it all.. Duncan scored 40 plus in game 7 against the Mavs.. It is why some players with talent bang around this league for a while, put up some stats, make way too much money and just retire.. While others retire as sporting legends.. He was all about that competition, his team and trying to be the best.. Leonard has shown to be selfish and soft..
U are calling Kawhi soft for being injured... When EVERY player gets injured and misses games... Duncan missed plenty! Was he soft too?
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I can’t remember any player missing a whole year after being cleared to play
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Wonder what Game of Zones will do with the Kawhi situation.
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I didn't watch the clip so I saved 5 minutes of my life. Cowherd is a weasel and Brousard is closeted homosexual.
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I didn't watch the clip so I saved 5 minutes of my life. Cowherd is a weasel and Brousard is closeted homosexual.
Being gay is not a bad thing nor should be used as an insult you prick.
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The biggest issue facing the spurs. Can the spurs afford another season of kawhi sitting with this mystery injury . Keep in mind he got his own group that decides if he clear to play or not. The precedent has been set, Spurs docs will have no sway. Kawhi wont want to play through pain even if he gets told he cant make it any worse. They have had a season to realize his pain threshold will have him sitting rather than playing. Spurs are in tight spot here.
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The biggest issue facing the spurs. Can the spurs afford another season of kawhi sitting with this mystery injury . Keep in mind he got his own group that decides if he clear to play or not. The precedent has been set, Spurs docs will have no sway. Kawhi wont want to play through pain even if he gets told he cant make it any worse. They have had a season to realize his pain threshold will have him sitting rather than playing. Spurs are in tight spot here.
interesting. Kawhi's team therefore placing all bets on a trade at the end of the season. Can Kawhi afford not to play for two entire seasons and come out with his credentials intact to re join the league as a top five player? Massive risk for him. The Spurs can chugg along quite dandy in the new season with the existing team +- a couple of tweaks riding LMA and developing their young talent. They do not desperately NEED to be a contender . They do very little or nothing under pressure. So they can easily freeze him and build smartly as they have always done. Mos interesting space to WATCH.
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The biggest issue facing the spurs. Can the spurs afford another season of kawhi sitting with this mystery injury . Keep in mind he got his own group that decides if he clear to play or not. The precedent has been set, Spurs docs will have no sway. Kawhi wont want to play through pain even if he gets told he cant make it any worse. They have had a season to realize his pain threshold will have him sitting rather than playing. Spurs are in tight spot here.
Sit on bench whole next year.
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Sit on bench whole next year.
Never seen anything like it. And he has all the leverage in the world. No way a team trades for him entering into his last year if he doesn't express he wants to be there. If he is willing to sit out a year in SA he'll sit out anywhere.
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Never seen anything like it. And he has all the leverage in the world. No way a team trades for him entering into his last year if he doesn't express he wants to be there. If he is willing to sit out a year in SA he'll sit out anywhere.
Derrick rose?
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Well he won't be able to sit forever. Seems like if he wanted out he would have been traded already. Maybe there were offers. But all signs suggest the spurs really wanted him to return around the all star break. If be made the trade demand before that why would the spurs be expecting him back?
Now it could be a legit misdirection play, that kawhi is trying to threaten leaving to get the spurs super max. If kawhi is permanently injured he needs that leverage. I think that with other teams spoiling to create a drama explains most of the leaked info
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Never seen anything like it. And he has all the leverage in the world. No way a team trades for him entering into his last year if he doesn't express he wants to be there. If he is willing to sit out a year in SA he'll sit out anywhere.
Lmao. Plenty of teams will trade for him just to get the chance to entice him to stay. He hasn't even openly said he wants to be in LA like PG and even Presti gave up two solid young players with upside for a 1 year rental of George. Get outta here with that "he has all the leverage" nonsense. Spurs have 50 million guaranteed worth of leverage on their side
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Lmao. Plenty of teams will trade for him just to get the chance to entice him to stay. He hasn't even openly said he wants to be in LA like PG and even Presti gave up two solid young players with upside for a 1 year rental of George. Get outta here with that "he has all the leverage" nonsense. Spurs have 50 million guaranteed worth of leverage on their side
SA tried everything from begging to peer pressure to get him to play with the superman in their pocket and he wouldn't. And you think they have leverage?
http://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhD...ylji/giphy.gif
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Lol. Yall mofos so desperate to be relevant again. Enjoy riding that treadmill when LA maxes out Paul George and the Lakers inevitably miss out on another top tier FA
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U are calling Kawhi soft for being injured... When EVERY player gets injured and misses games... Duncan missed plenty! Was he soft too?
What your failing to understand is that TD, Manu or Tony never sat out a whole year with basically a sore quad. All three of these guys probably can't believe what is going on, and they all probably can't fathom sitting out that long with a similar injury. That's the issue. That is the point.
GET THAT THROUGH YOU THICK SKULL.
Now, he could still be injured and if he still is, it's bad news because that means it could be chronic. He may be done as a top level player if he's still legit injured from an injury that doesn't require surgery.
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The biggest issue facing the spurs. Can the spurs afford another season of kawhi sitting with this mystery injury . Keep in mind he got his own group that decides if he clear to play or not. The precedent has been set, Spurs docs will have no sway. Kawhi wont want to play through pain even if he gets told he cant make it any worse. They have had a season to realize his pain threshold will have him sitting rather than playing. Spurs are in tight spot here.
That's why I think he gets traded. Pop will ship his ass out quicker than he can blink for pulling this shit. Getting over yourself and all that jazz...
He's gonna be traded. And at this point, I hope it happens. I fully blame this lackluster season on him. Not so much that he was injured but because he can't contribute at all, or show up on the bench.
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That's why I think he gets traded. Pop will ship his ass out quicker than he can blink for pulling this shit. Getting over yourself and all that jazz...
He's gonna be traded. And at this point, I hope it happens. I fully blame this lackluster season on him. Not so much that he was injured but because he can't contribute at all, or show up on the bench.
He just needs more rest
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Teams will come after him as soon as season ends. RC and Pop better get the best deal possible I don’t care what team just as long as we get a good player and draft picks.
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He just needs more rest
19M to sit on his ass. Pathetic.
But he still has pain...how many people on this planet would crawl through glass to go out and play a game for 19M.
Get this fucker out of here.
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19M to sit on his ass. Pathetic.
But he still has pain...how many people on this planet would crawl through glass to go out and play a game for 19M.
Get this fucker out of here.
He needs more shoe deal
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duncan2k5
U are calling Kawhi soft for being injured... When EVERY player gets injured and misses games... Duncan missed plenty! Was he soft too?
We have been through this over and over and over and over. He is missing an entire season over an injury that he was medically cleared to play months ago. This would never happen to Tim Duncan. It doesn’t happen now to the star players in the league. Only him.
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What your failing to understand is that TD, Manu or Tony never sat out a whole year with basically a sore quad. All three of these guys probably can't believe what is going on, and they all probably can't fathom sitting out that long with a similar injury. That's the issue. That is the point.
GET THAT THROUGH YOU THICK SKULL.
Now, he could still be injured and if he still is, it's bad news because that means it could be chronic. He may be done as a top level player if he's still legit injured from an injury that doesn't require surgery.
What he does not want to acknowledge, is the simple reality that Leonard is refusing to play through pain. Players need to play through pain sometimes. Especially when the doctors are clearing you to play. Steph Curry has been injured like three times this season with his ankles. The ankles have been problematic in the past. He is not going to come back at 100% in the playoffs. But he is going to come back. This is what Leonard is refusing to do. Thus people are really losing respect for him.
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dbreiden83080
What he does not want to acknowledge, is the simple reality that Leonard is refusing to play through pain. Players need to play through pain sometimes. Especially when the doctors are clearing you to play. Steph Curry has been injured like three times this season with his ankles. The ankles have been problematic in the past. He is not going to come back at 100% in the playoffs. But he is going to come back. This is what Leonard is refusing to do. Thus people are really losing respect for him.
Exactly. You've put it very succinctly. Hopefully Duncan2k5 can understand that.
Now if this is an issue that Kawhi's been having for years, since 2012 or so and he's getting sick of it, then I can understand him wanting to get this under control once and for all. That would be the only reason I can understand with him wanting to sit out. If it's not related to his previous bouts, and if he's been cleared, then he should be playing IMO.
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dbreiden83080
What he does not want to acknowledge, is the simple reality that Leonard is refusing to play through pain. Players need to play through pain sometimes. Especially when the doctors are clearing you to play. Steph Curry has been injured like three times this season with his ankles. The ankles have been problematic in the past. He is not going to come back at 100% in the playoffs. But he is going to come back. This is what Leonard is refusing to do. Thus people are really losing respect for him.
Ya agree. Also , Docs only clear you knowing that you cant make the injury any worse. He may have found a NY quack that suggests otherwise.
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Ya agree. Also , Docs only clear you knowing that you cant make the injury any worse. He may have found a NY quack that suggests otherwise.
I'm 37 and been a huge fan of the NBA since I was 9. I have never seen anything like this with a star player. Medically cleared to play and refuses to basically all season long. A team meeting where is confronted and he still won't go.. It is insane..
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I also don't get how most of the former players are saying he's doing the right thing and are on his side. They must be a bunch of dickless pussies.
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I'm 37 and been a huge fan of the NBA since I was 9. I have never seen anything like this with a star player. Medically cleared to play and refuses to basically all season long. A team meeting where is confronted and he still won't go.. It is insane..
This is why the discussion regarding mental illness has been placed on the table. If it ain't physical, and it ain't financial, then its mental.
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I also don't get how most of the former players are saying he's doing the right thing and are on his side. They must be a bunch of dickless pussies.
Barkley didn't, but everyone else did.
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This is why the discussion regarding mental illness has been placed on the table. If it ain't physical, and it ain't financial, then its mental.
Mental illness? Wrong. Just fire him
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Saw this on reddit: https://961now.iheart.com/featured/t...w-house-in-sa/
Kawhi is building a new house in SA and spent $2 mil for the foundation.