Kawhi is not resigning here

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Could one of the shoe companies have made a huge offer to him dependent on whether or not he goes to a bigger market?

Can endorsement money change that much going from SA to one of the bigger markets?

Even if that is remotely true, why would he be holding himself out this season if he can play right now? How would that affect the "big bag"?

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exactly...nate doesn't know shit...his sources are a bunch of high dudes from around the way small-talking about basketball

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Originally Posted by daslicer

I believe what Nate said when he said he just doesn't want to be here anymore. It's sounds weird but maybe he just hates living in SA so much he doesn't want to even play there anymore. I think it's very possible since he comes across to me as a pretty stupid guy. Shoe deals can definitely change depending on where you play. Kawhi is not a guy like Lebron who has the charisma and personality to sell shoes regardless of the location he plays in. I think that factors in with these shoe companies and that they probably believe the only way giving him a big deal is justified is that if he plays in LA or NYC.

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i cant beieve u guys are really taking NATE ROBINSON seriously...sigh...how far we have fallen...

NOTHING nate robinson said makes sense, for very obvious reasons...if u guys cant see the reasons why, you dont understand how this works

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

i cant beieve u guys are really taking NATE ROBINSON seriously...sigh...how far we have fallen...

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Only have fallen since you started posting

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Originally Posted by tholdren

Only have fallen since you started posting

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the irony...

On top of 70 million more dollars, texas doesnt have a state income tax. California would charge an extra 8% of taxes. When you factor in 40 million a year thats more than his current shoe deal all by itself. If Kawhi leaves it on the table u know he hates it here

I don’t understand how anyone at this point could be in favor of signing him to that Supermax contract? You want to talk about an organizational disaster. Imagine paying him 40+ million dollars in a given season and he is sitting it out like this season. Highly likely it will happen too. He has proven to be incredibly injury prone. And even worse unwilling to play through injuries. And because that money is completely guaranteed, He can just sit on his ass and collect the checks. He sat on his ass all season and collected 19 million.

What did the Magic end up paying Grant Hill to basically sit down with his ankle elevated?

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Originally Posted by cutewizard

Game plan is simple

Trade kawhi for Trei Young
Sign Marc Gasol
Get Divincenzo
Get Mo Bamba

And then the Unicorn arrives

Marc Gasol, Unicorn, Lamarcus, Trei Young, Murray, Bertans, Bamba

Wooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Marc Gasol fucking sucks. That's all the Spurs need, another washed up former star being paid $20-25 million a year.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

I don’t understand how anyone at this point could be in favor of signing him to that Supermax contract? You want to talk about an organizational disaster. Imagine paying him 40+ million dollars in a given season and he is sitting it out like this season. Highly likely it will happen too. He has proven to be incredibly injury prone. And even worse unwilling to play through injuries. And because that money is completely guaranteed, He can just sit on his ass and collect the checks. He sat on his ass all season and collected 19 million.

What did the Magic end up paying Grant Hill to basically sit down with his ankle elevated?

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When has Kawhi been unwilling to play through injuries? Even his college coach said he played through them... He played through a twice injured ankle... All of our stars had moments when they missed significant time due to injuries... Do we vilify them and say they are unwilling to do so? The guy FUCKING PLAYED this season and you same fuckface fans were mad because he wasn't dominating... Then come to find out he was feeling pain and limping after each game and had to be shut down... Clearly he was INJURED just like ALL players have happen to them and couldn't go... NBA players don't purposefully sit out contract years you dumbfucks

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

When has Kawhi been unwilling to play through injuries? Even his college coach said he played through them... He played through a twice injured ankle... All of our stars had moments when they missed significant time due to injuries... Do we vilify them and say they are unwilling to do so? The guy FUCKING PLAYED this season and you same fuckface fans were mad because he wasn't dominating... Then come to find out he was feeling pain and limping after each game and had to be shut down... Clearly he was INJURED just like ALL players have happen to them and couldn't go... NBA players don't purposefully sit out contract years you dumbfucks

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It’s hilarious how you give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt citing a shorter history than you do SA.

When it comes to the long history of SA protecting players and making sure they are healthy before they play, even to the detriment of the team, you ATTACK SA and hurled accusations around about them caring more about TP/Manu than Kawhi to the point they were willing to ruin Kawhi’s career potentially.

But, but, but Kawhi’s college coach said he played when injured!!! That’s all the proof you need and he would NEVER change.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

It’s hilarious how you give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt citing a shorter history than you do SA.

When it comes to the long history of SA protecting players and making sure they are healthy before they play, even to the detriment of the team, you ATTACK SA and hurled accusations around about them caring more about TP/Manu than Kawhi to the point they were willing to ruin Kawhi’s career potentially.

But, but, but Kawhi’s college coach said he played when injured!!! That’s all the proof you need and he would NEVER change.

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SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now... He cares more about relationships... His most cherished relationship is with Manu and Parker... So he would put pressure on Kawhi to play for them so they can go out strong where in the past he never had to worry about that... If Manu and Parker weren't on the team, this Leonard issue would be a non-story, and everyone would accept the guy is hurt... But because the Spurs, Manu and Parker (notice they're the ONLY ones with shade being thrown) are so close, they are a bit jaded... They will realize the mistake they made when this is all over, and so will u guys... And just as with EVERYTHING I've been right with this year, I'll say I TOLD YOU SO!

Ok, so let me get this straight. It’s Pop that has changed even though he has a longer track record and they get 0 benefit of the doubt.

But Kawhi, who has a 219M dollar deal on the line, has ZERO incentive or motive.


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Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.

Kawhi has definitely played through injury (I don't think anyone has said that he's never played through an injury), but those other three guys have played through more than what Kawhi seems to not be willing to play through now. I don't think they can fathom why he's been sitting out most of the season with the injury that he has, because on the surface it doesn't seem that bad at all and I think all three of those guys would have been playing long ago with a similar ailment. Again, if it's that bad and it is legit bothering him to the point where he's not able to perform anywhere near his peak because of it, maybe Kawhi should saying something other than nothing.

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now... He cares more about relationships... His most cherished relationship is with Manu and Parker... So he would put pressure on Kawhi to play for them so they can go out strong where in the past he never had to worry about that... If Manu and Parker weren't on the team, this Leonard issue would be a non-story, and everyone would accept the guy is hurt... But because the Spurs, Manu and Parker (notice they're the ONLY ones with shade being thrown) are so close, they are a bit jaded... They will realize the mistake they made when this is all over, and so will u guys... And just as with EVERYTHING I've been right with this year, I'll say I TOLD YOU SO!

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Answer this question..and maybe it’ll put things in perspective from PATFO..

How do you stomach paying someone $20M this year and you clear him yet he’s only played 9 games and then leaves his teammates out to dry to an extent..

The player meeting was to get an answer from Kawhi..because they didn’t know. Not even PATFO truly know..yet he’s getting paid max money..

You don’t find that a bit frustrating?

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Marc Gasol fucking sucks. That's all the Spurs need, another washed up former star being paid $20-25 million a year.

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Yes. Exactly. That’s what I need.

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Originally Posted by Kawhi m8

I doubt that selfish jew cares, he has no integrity.

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:wow
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Originally Posted by Ice009

Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.
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The list of injuries those men played with is long and illustrious. Tim Duncan with his chronic bad knees. Didn’t Manu once play in a playoff series basically with a broken elbow? Leonard is sitting out for reasons that are personal. It’s pretty obvious. And the team calling him out and that leaking into the media was probably the last straw. Now he feels he can’t come back. It’s like he would be giving in.

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

SAS protected players in the past because they were in a different mind state back then... AS I SAID, it is CLEAR Pop has changed... You guys on here are quick to point it out... Saying that he doesn't care about basketball as much now.!

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If Pop did not care as much about basketball now or this team he would have retired. He has always been a perfectionist when it comes to this job and his passion. He doesn’t need the money. He has been the head coach of this team forever. It’s ridiculous to say he is not treating a player with the same care or enthusiasm because you think he doesn’t care about basketball as much anymore. That’s bullshit. Anybody who says that is basically trolling.

I wonder if the Spurs make major summer moves in order to make Kawhi happy here. Free agent signings and maybe unloading older talent like Gasol.

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Originally Posted by Ice009

Duncan2k5, when has Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, or Tony Parker sat out almost a whole season with an injury that isn't considered a major one. I really don't know how Kawhi is feeling because he doesn't say jack shit, so no, I'm not willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he wants to be a mute about it. You're supposed to be the leader of the team and an MVP level player. Now that he's gotten himself to that level, there's certain responsibilities that come with it. Whether he likes it or not, that's the way it is. You can't just sneak out and not expect anyone to ask you questions. He's going to have to learn to answer them and talk to the media a bit more.

Kawhi has definitely played through injury (I don't think anyone has said that he's never played through an injury), but those other three guys have played through more than what Kawhi seems to not be willing to play through now. I don't think they can fathom why he's been sitting out most of the season with the injury that he has, because on the surface it doesn't seem that bad at all and I think all three of those guys would have been playing long ago with a similar ailment. Again, if it's that bad and it is legit bothering him to the point where he's not able to perform anywhere near his peak because of it, maybe Kawhi should saying something other than nothing.

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Those other guys played twenty fucking seasons!!! OF COURSE they have had more opportunity to play through injury than Kawhi... The dude has been mtlr reliable in the playoffs, and most of the times he was "injured" before has been because of pop resting them... And how has Kawhi been mute? He gave a freaking interview on it just a little while back!? How often do u want him to run after the press? He DID say something in his last interview!!! You saying he hadn't doesn't make it true! Dude said he have it a try for the 9 games, and couldn't play his best...

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

Answer this question..and maybe it’ll put things in perspective from PATFO..

How do you stomach paying someone $20M this year and you clear him yet he’s only played 9 games and then leaves his teammates out to dry to an extent..

The player meeting was to get an answer from Kawhi..because they didn’t know. Not even PATFO truly know..yet he’s getting paid max money..

You don’t find that a bit frustrating?

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Players get injured ALL the time! Why would I get mad at them? I WANT him to come back when he is ready so I don't fuck up my investment by having him misdiagnosed and hurt worse... No player is stupid enough to purposely sit out in a contract year

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

The list of injuries those men played with is long and illustrious. Tim Duncan with his chronic bad knees. Didn’t Manu once play in a playoff series basically with a broken elbow? Leonard is sitting out for reasons that are personal. It’s pretty obvious. And the team calling him out and that leaking into the media was probably the last straw. Now he feels he can’t come back. It’s like he would be giving in.



If Pop did not care as much about basketball now or this team he would have retired. He has always been a perfectionist when it comes to this job and his passion. He doesn’t need the money. He has been the head coach of this team forever. It’s ridiculous to say he is not treating a player with the same care or enthusiasm because you think he doesn’t care about basketball as much anymore. That’s bullshit. Anybody who says that is basically trolling.

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The list of injuries they also had to sit out for were numerous... Kawhi has also played through injuries... Just not as many because he OBVIOUSLY hasn't been in the league as long... Jesus christ, how isn't that obvious?

Zach Lowe tweeted teams will be looking to trade for Kawhi around the draft. Obviously.

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

this is exactly what ive been saying...ppl think our front office is innocent in all this...most of the negative things about Kawhi has been speculation, where on the other hand, we KNOW Pop and the SA camp HAS been saying shady things...i can see how Kawhi's camp would be annoyed....

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What does the Spurs front office win by throwing mud at the Kawhi situation? Alienate Kawhi?

Also, the one that said Kawhi doesn't want back is Nate Robinson. What kind of relationship does Nate have with RC or Pop? :lol

It is much more likely that Nate has some kind of relationship with some of the people that handle Kawhi.

I'm done speculating with this. I will just wait to see what happens and which side was the faggy one.

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Originally Posted by duncan2k5

Players get injured ALL the time! Why would I get mad at them? I WANT him to come back when he is ready so I don't fuck up my investment by having him misdiagnosed and hurt worse... No player is stupid enough to purposely sit out in a contract year

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There’s a difference between being hurt and injured....

I’m just pointing out facts. He’s getting paid 20M and played 9 games. Team doctors advise one thing yet the player goes against it..which is fine to an extent but leaving the team/players out to dry is not cool. Having them to answer your questions isn’t cool.

I’ve made it clear what I think is going on and it’s definitely a unique deal that’s NEVER happened in league history.,

So I get why it’s frustrating