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If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
Besides re-signing Manu and Tony to multi-year deals?
IMO:
- Let Fathead, Forbes walk
- Try to salary dump Mills and Pau, make as much room as possible
- Put all the chips on Lebron. Even if we have to absorb some cancer contracts like Danny's extension and bring in friendkiller.
With that said, considering PATFO recent moves, realistically:
- We're keeping Mills and Pau
- We give $10m to Fathead, taking us completely off the Lebron sweepstakes (:pop: "Once it was clear Kawhi wasn't coming back, we had to shore up the SF position")
- We trade Kawhi for Austin Rivers, Patrick Beverly (more PGs obviously) and Boban
- We keep White so he can watch Forbes play his minutes
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"Kawhi doesn't come back next season"...Surprise, surprise, another troll-thread.
Pop's 70 years old, he would retire in one/two years...Manu/Parker/LMA/Pau like 150 years together...Spurs should keep Kawhi to lure FAs at least.
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Can we trade for Simmons/Saric?
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buy some plane tickets to seattle for opening night
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Stand pat or try to find Bonner
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Besides re-signing Manu and Tony to multi-year deals?
IMO:
- Let Fathead, Forbes walk
- Try to salary dump Mills and Pau, make as much room as possible
- Put all the chips on Lebron. Even if we have to absorb some cancer contracts like Danny's extension and bring in friendkiller.
With that said, considering PATFO recent moves, realistically:
- We're keeping Mills and Pau
- We give $10m to Fathead, taking us completely off the Lebron sweepstakes (:pop: "Once it was clear Kawhi wasn't coming back, we had to shore up the SF position")
- We trade Kawhi for Austin Rivers, Patrick Beverly (more PGs obviously) and Boban
- We keep White so he can watch Forbes play his minutes
I don't disagree with any of this. I too fully expect the latter to happen.
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Besides re-signing Manu and Tony to multi-year deals?
IMO:
- Let Fathead, Forbes walk
- Try to salary dump Mills and Pau, make as much room as possible
- Put all the chips on Lebron. Even if we have to absorb some cancer contracts like Danny's extension and bring in friendkiller.
With that said, considering PATFO recent moves, realistically:
- We're keeping Mills and Pau
- We give $10m to Fathead, taking us completely off the Lebron sweepstakes (:pop: "Once it was clear Kawhi wasn't coming back, we had to shore up the SF position")
- We trade Kawhi for Austin Rivers, Patrick Beverly (more PGs obviously) and Boban
- We keep White so he can watch Forbes play his minutes
So, put all the chips into the pot with holding a high card seven of clubs?
No Kawhi, no reason for Lebron to come to SA.
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Tony and Manu multi-year deals? If anything they should either get vet minimum or retire.
Try to re-sign Green or Bertans.
Match any offer for Kyle
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Every position except for whatever position LMA plays tbh. So basically every position lol oh yeah and a new head coach.
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Lebron isnt coming without kawhi. He wants rings. If Kawhi doesnt sign an extension, we simply trade him. Depending on who we trade him for, for instance, if we get a young player and picks, then we also trade LaMarcus for pics and young talents if u can. Especially after the monster season he is having. If we get a seasoned player for kawhi we keep trucking along with LA. I prefer picks so we can tank a season or two and get even more pics.
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If my team is going to suck, I'd rather watch youngins with potential. Fathead is not that. He is who he is. A 6 points in 30 minutes kind of guy. Let him team up with Jimmy in China.
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Kyle Anderson will be a glue guy for years. His defense is very good, and he will only get better as his body matures. His shot is getting better. His in-between game is there. He helps on boards and plays unselfishly. He doesn't complain about no play calls he is getting. He probably doesn't even have one play written or practice for him. You can plug him into many situations. And he should come cheap because of stats.
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Niccas here as delusional as LG Lebron aint coming to the west and even if he were ... be Rox and not Lakers or Spurs.
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Draft a 6’ PG along with draft/stash a 7’ Euro C
Put the Riverboats in dry dock. Turn 1 into a restaurant
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
tbdog
Kyle Anderson will be a glue guy for years. His defense is very good, and he will only get better as his body matures. His shot is getting better. His in-between game is there. He helps on boards and plays unselfishly. He doesn't complain about no play calls he is getting. He probably doesn't even have one play written or practice for him. You can plug him into many situations. And he should come cheap because of stats.
That last sentence is a solid point. Contract size correlates heavily with scoring average, so a guy who does everything well except scoring in bunches is usually underpaid. Front offices are getting smarter but only slowly.
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Spurs could also fully guarantee Gasol's last year for loyalty reasons. With how stacked the guard lineup is a draft and stash with the #22 pick sounds reasonable too.
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
YGWHI
"Kawhi doesn't come back next season"...Surprise, surprise, another troll-thread.
Pop's 70 years old, he would retire in one/two years...Manu/Parker/LMA/Pau like 150 years together...Spurs should keep Kawhi to lure FAs at least.
SAS speaking 100% facts!
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
Ok, I am assuming you mean come back to play this season (not say, demands out...)
The elephant in the room is how much extension do you offer Kawhi? Can a responsible FO offer the full DVPE (starting maximum of 35% of the cap, up to 8% raises, for up to 6 years, including next year) to a player who has a ongoing long term injury issue, that has no resolution in sight? If he goes to FA after next year, the maximum another team can offer him is 30% and 4 years (and 5% raises). This decision has to be priority #1. Further, it triggers the potential second highest priority - if Kawhi won't sign an extension, he needs to be traded, and getting best value for that will be difficult.
Secondary priority is how to fix our guard rotation, particularly the PG slot. IMO we should move Mills - he is, IMO, not good enough to be starter, and is paid too much relative to his production. TP9 should resign on a current Manu level contract (~ $2.5 Million, which is to say the vet minimum), but I am unsure if the FO will offer him more. Say goodbye to Forbes- he is Mills but worse... In theory this leaves us with a Dejounte, Parker, White PG rotation, with potentially White or DJ seeing some more minutes at SG
If Lebron is a real possibility, he should of course be explored, but I do not see a clear path to getting him.
If Danny opts out (which I maintain would be silly of him - he's going to have a very hard time getting $10 million anywhere else in the coming low cash FA market; he's be better off next year), I would ask of him the courtesy of being given a chance to match whatever contract he gets - with a standing offer from us of slightly more than the MLE ($9 million, 4 years, 8% raises).
Kyle is in a similar situation - except he's an RFA and thus we get the opportunity to match - let him explore the market and tell us what he can get. Having a standing offer of just slightly more than the MLE ($9 million, 4 years, 8% raises).
Bertans: let him explore the market, and ask for the courtesy of the opportunity to match whatever offer he gets. Don't match anything more than $5 million, and probably not even that...
Finally, we have the exceptions to use - we have the full MLE (8.5 Million), and Bi-annual exceptions (3.3 Million, we didn't use it last year), and of course, the vet min. Look to add talent - there should be some available in this low-cash FA season...
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
TheGreatYacht
If my team is going to suck, I'd rather watch youngins with potential. Fathead is not that. He is who he is. A 6 points in 30 minutes kind of guy. Let him team up with Jimmy in China.
Rather have Jimmer tbh, at least he has a hot wife that comes to games. Better to look at that all of the Silver Dancers tbh
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Depends on what happens with Kawhi and who is retiring but for all the criticism that can be laid on a thin front court with little depth (Kawhi isn’t playing so it makes them thinner)... they have to do something about this:
This is nothing new. It was the same last season too.
For a team that has about 8 guards none of them are any good offensively. Mills is their best offensive guard right now and he is above his depth in many games. White might be better but he’s not playing perhaps next season he gets his chance but that’s not going to be enough probably.
They need an offensively skilled guard. And it would be nice to have a big that can protect the rim. They have run LMA to the ground this year and their other center is 75 yrs old...
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No more old, undersized, offensively inept, non-athletes. Let's start there.
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Find a non-faggot version of Kawhi.
Disregard "non-faggot" if he comes back.
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I might get burned at the stake here, but throw an offer out to Boogie or even Paul George. Couldn't hurt. I mean, it would be cool for Paul George to return to the Spurs, full circle.
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
Depends on what happens with Kawhi and who is retiring but for all the criticism that can be laid on a thin front court with little depth (Kawhi isn’t playing so it makes them thinner)... they have to do something about this:
This is nothing new. It was the same last season too.
For a team that has about 8 guards none of them are any good offensively. Mills is their best offensive guard right now and he is above his depth in many games. White might be better but he’s not playing perhaps next season he gets his chance but that’s not going to be enough probably.
They need an offensively skilled guard. And it would be nice to have a big that can protect the rim. They have run LMA to the ground this year and their other center is 75 yrs old...
This was why spurs drafted murray. They thoight he would be a tony and get into the lane.... no rim attackers other than carmelo leonard.
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Deport the mexican to timbuktu
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Resign Tony and Manu, then make strong offers to Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Vince Carter and the Jet.
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:lol Give Tony and Manu a Kobe Bryant type of send off contract.
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Originally Posted by
Strategic
Resign Tony and Manu, then make strong offers to Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Vince Carter and the Jet.
there's not enough money to overpay all of them
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Originally Posted by
SpursforSix
there's not enough money to overpay all of them
Iou
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
- We trade Kawhi for Austin Rivers, Patrick Beverly (more PGs obviously) and Boban
The Logo ain't giving you PatBev and Boban, tbh. You'll get Austin, Wes and Dekker and like itPERIOD
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This is pathetic. People are swearing they'll suck yo dick for Boogie Cousins. The depths we've fallen to. I half expect to see those creatures from "The Abyss" soon coming to save our drowning asses.
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We need better guards. Simple. Every elite team has a monster back court.
Lillard, McCollum
Curry, Thompson
Paul, Harden
DeRozan, Lowry
Wall, Beal
Kyrie, Hayward (when healthy)
And then there's:
Murray, Mills
Also need to find a good back up big for Aldridge. No Joffrey fag.
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DMC
This is pathetic. People are swearing they'll suck yo dick for Boogie Cousins. The depths we've fallen to. I half expect to see those creatures from "The Abyss" soon coming to save our drowning asses.
desperate times, tbh, grim business
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Originally Posted by
rastaspur
Moving to seattle?
I don't get why any spur fan would want the team to move to Seattle. I live in Charlotte so I'm not even close to SA and have never lived their in my life but it would be a travesty if the Spurs move. It would also wipe out the legacies of the great players played in SA. That tends to happen when a team moves. Nobody remembers that Wilt Chamberlain won a championship with the Philadelphia Warriors. Nobody remembers George Mikan winning titles with the Minneapolis Lakers. Same thing will happen to Duncan's legacy over time if the Spurs move.
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Originally Posted by
daslicer
I don't get why any spur fan would want the team to move to Seattle. I live in Charlotte so I'm not even close to SA and have never lived their in my life but it would be a travesty if the Spurs move. It would also wipe out the legacies of the great players played in SA. That tends to happen when a team moves. Nobody remembers that Wilt Chamberlain won a championship with the Philadelphia Warriors. Nobody remembers George Mikan winning titles with the Minneapolis Lakers. Same thing will happen to Duncan's legacy over time if the Spurs move.
I dont want the move.
Last summer's moves were awful. Moving to seattle would certainly top last summer's nightmare.
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Originally Posted by
Darius Bieber
We need better guards. Simple. Every elite team has a monster back court.
Lillard, McCollum
Curry, Thompson
Paul, Harden
DeRozan, Lowry
Wall, Beal
Kyrie, Hayward (when healthy)
And then there's:
Murray, Mills
Also need to find a good back up big for Aldridge. No Joffrey fag.
Spurs have still been building around Tony and Manu :drunk
Murray may still improve, but relying on him to save every other guard’s bad production was irresponsible. He was still very raw coming into the season and they knew his shooting needed a lot of work.
Now that they have fallen off a cliff perhaps they will address that problem. Or not.
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
tbdog
Kyle Anderson will be a glue guy for years. His defense is very good, and he will only get better as his body matures. His shot is getting better. His in-between game is there. He helps on boards and plays unselfishly. He doesn't complain about no play calls he is getting. He probably doesn't even have one play written or practice for him. You can plug him into many situations. And he should come cheap because of stats.
This! Keep SlowMo, the kid is one of your best defenders and with KL back, he will be a solid player off the bench to spell Kawhi.
Pau was critical in our 25+ lead over the warriors in the conf finals last year. And Patty can thrive as an energy guy off the bench as well.
With Kawhi being a 3pt threat, Patty is no longer needed in the starting line up. The problem is neither Kyle nor Dejounte can stretch the floor. Thus, patty is needed because of his 3pt shooting. Otherwise, LA has no room to operate. If you don't believe me, see games Patty shoots well, we win.
I don't see anything wrong with our team, other than we are not as sexy as the Sixers. And that Pop is getting old, both metaphorically and literally. He will not coach forever and Kawhi might prefer to play for someone younger, like Brett Brown. A coach he already has a relationship with.
Imagine HOU without Harden for all but 9 games, and CP3, and others missing a 20+ games. The only team that can sustain an injury like Kawhi's is the warriors.
As for the summer, excect the spurs to try to keep Kawhi (regardless of health). Keep Rudy Gay, KA and DG, and keep developing Bryn Forbes and Derrick White, and of course Dejounte.
If they can do that, I would be ecstatic!
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Priorities??? Hmm. Suicide by shotgun, rope, cop, or have a friend stake you out near a huge fire ant mound.
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"If Kawhi doesn't come back".... maybe tank... trade whomever you can trade for assets, rebuild. I doubt Pop is up for that, maybe he retires. Also, depends on the reason Kawhi doesn't come back. If his career is over, then you won't get much in a trade for him.
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Alpha_Haze might have posted one of the worst takes of all time...Holy fuck.
"Pau critical against the Warriors"
"Develop Bryn Forbes"
"NOTHING wrong with the team"
LMAAAAOOOOO :lmao
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
- We keep White so he can watch Forbes play his minutes
:lol
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Re: If Kawhi doesn't come back, priorities in the offseason are?
Draft Franco De Verga in the 1st Round
TP fucking Kawhi's girl before his bitch ass demands a trade
Trade Kawhi to the New York Knicks for Porzingis
Give Manu a proper send-off
Trade for Otto Porter and groom him to become the next Kawhi WITH balls
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Kawhi is still under contract next season, so I really don't understand this thread.
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Dex
Kawhi is still under contract next season, so I really don't understand this thread.
Sign to max trade for jimmer
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I’m very excited for this off season. I don’t think it’s obvious that the team needs sweeping changes considering the success minus Kawhi but there are definite areas of need.
Will Kawhi re-sign. Will they aggressively pursue upgrades with pressure from Kawhi/others?
Lots of questions and a big test for Pop/RC
