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Re: how much does tony get re-signed for?
While I really like Green, I am almost resigned to the fact that the won't be re-signed. I am not all that worried about Mills continuing to start, as the nominal SG, he is a poor defender that can be exploited but Kawhi (all this assumes that he's healthy) LMA and Murray are all well above average defenders and lineups with Bertans at the 4 (in which he almost exclusively plays with Aldridge) has been good defensively (and also great offensively) so having only one weak link shouldn't hurt the defense much at all.
Gasol's come off the bench 11 of the last nineteen games so its hard to tell either way but the Spurs have been much better with Aldridge at the 5, which I think PATFO recognizes while it also has to balance his ego. He's still averaging about 18 mpg while having a higher usage even with having to share the ball with Parker, Manu, and Gay.
If the Spurs want to try and modernize the offense then Mills, Murray, Leonard, Bertans, and Aldridge would be the best combination using option 3. Three high volume shooters around Aldridge, Bertans and Mills spacing the floor during Kawhi/LMA pick and pop/rolls.
If Gay picks up his option the i'd be fine with him being back next season but if he were to opt out and seek more than a one year deal, then the Spurs should at least consider not resigning him and putting that money towards retaining Green along with re-signing Bertans and Anderson.
As for Parker, he wants to play three more seasons after this one- whether that's even possible remains to be seen but if he were willing to less money per year in order to have an extra year tacked on, then I think that PATFO may consider it.
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Re: how much does tony get re-signed for?
It will depend on his production during the PO.
Right now he doesn't deserve more than the min.
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cd021
While I really like Green, I am almost resigned to the fact that the won't be re-signed. I am not all that worried about Mills continuing to start, as the nominal SG, he is a poor defender that can be exploited but Kawhi (all this assumes that he's healthy) LMA and Murray are all well above average defenders and lineups with Bertans at the 4 (in which he almost exclusively plays with Aldridge) has been good defensively (and also great offensively) so having only one weak link shouldn't hurt the defense much at all.
Gasol's come off the bench 11 of the last nineteen games so its hard to tell either way but the Spurs have been much better with Aldridge at the 5, which I think PATFO recognizes while it also has to balance his ego. He's still averaging about 18 mpg while having a higher usage even with having to share the ball with Parker, Manu, and Gay.
If the Spurs want to try and modernize the offense then Mills, Murray, Leonard, Bertans, and Aldridge would be the best combination using option 3. Three high volume shooters around Aldridge, Bertans and Mills spacing the floor during Kawhi/LMA pick and pop/rolls.
If Gay picks up his option the i'd be fine with him being back next season but if he were to opt out and seek more than a one year deal, then the Spurs should at least consider not resigning him and putting that money towards retaining Green along with re-signing Bertans and Anderson.
As for Parker, he wants to play three more seasons after this one- whether that's even possible remains to be seen but if he were willing to less money per year in order to have an extra year tacked on, then I think that PATFO may consider it.
It's more so about closing than starting when it comes to Mills and really the 3 starters not named Leonard and Aldridge. Those 2 and elite defense guarantee at least being competitive. The problem is down the stretch, it's difficult to win close games vs elite teams with players who aren't 2-way or exceptional enough on one end to make up for the other.
Gasol coming off the bench has been a desperation move. We're operating under the premise that everything is back to normal next season (however likely that may be, is a different argument), which means Pop can probably pretty well do what he wants and they'll be mostly fine during the regular season.
Anderson will definitely be re-signed and Bertans probably will be too (wouldn't entirely rule out an exorbitant offer sheet though). To make up for the hole at shooting guard and lack of size in the back court period, I could see Leonard and possibly even Anderson (shouldn't, but we've seen it before) playing it some.
I know Parker claims he isn't 100% and hopes he'll be better next season, but they're already trying to phase him out. Think they'd try to convince him it's over before they'd have him end his career as a fringe - non rotation player.
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Re: how much does tony get re-signed for?
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Pauleta14
It will depend on his production during the PO.
Right now he doesn't deserve more than the min.
He looked like shit last regular season but had a really nice first round against a healthy top-two way PG like Conley. Not sure if he looks this way now for the injury/age or it's something like regular season.
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Re: how much does tony get re-signed for?
Please tell me this is a joke. I posted a photo of a bag of Funyuns but seriously, that would be overpaying. Time to move on. I'd still bring Manu back but not TP.
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tmtcsc
Please tell me this is a joke. I posted a photo of a bag of Funyuns but seriously, that would be overpaying. Time to move on. I'd still bring Manu back but not TP.
agreed, but there's no way PATFO don't offer tony a multimillion dollar deal.
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TP has been a pretty good solider, I would not be surprised to see him take something like 3/15.
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He will make more annually than Mills.:depressed
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baseline bum
3 years, $50 million
Loyalty contract. Why not? Heck they basically did that for Pau.
Nothing our FO does with these ridiculous contracts would surprise me anymore.
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Tony has the same agent as Patty. He is going to ask for at least 3 year / 40 million. I’m not joking. He expects 10-13 million per year. The Spurs gave Manu 14 million last season when the Sixers wanted him. I’m sure Tony will tell them there are other teams that could use his veteran knowledge and experience lol. Pop will give it to him too because the spurs aren’t signing a big name free agent this summer anyway.
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If he gets us out of the first round of the playoffs this year like he did last, $10m/year is fine.
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If he doesn’t produce in playoffs he should be released
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if tony wants to keep playing for the spurs they should send him up to austin and leave him there.
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the dude finished this season with a -0.6 VORP :wow
15th best TS% on the roster too...
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gambit1990
the dude finished this season with a -0.6 VORP :wow
15th best TS% on the roster too...
That's pretty disgusting.
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He should retire and move on to his French team while he still has some basketball left in him.
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Watching his body language you can tell he is not happy and I think he is realizing he is not Manu and can’t play at the level he needs to be in the NBA anymore.
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hopefully no more than 3 years for $9 million...
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Sadly he's the invisible man when he's on the court now. The game has passed him by. It's been a great run, though, Tony. Much respect for one of the 5 top Spurs all-time.
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Pop played him 6 minutes. Can’t be mad at that.
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lets not forget bthat's his first year after the terrible incident of last year...and that he made a great reabilitation, maybe a little hurried up just for the chance to benefit the team.
That said, his level of playing as of now is worth no playing time...so, just out of loyalty and hope, he could be resigned for some more years, but in any case for no more than a minimum contract (that is a good amount of money considering he is a veteran player in his 16th season)...
Lets remember that he is a kind of player that played his entire game on speedness...and that's the first quality players loose 'cause of age and injuries,,,
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I like Tony but he should retire he has no lift on his shots and no burst to beat his man off the dribble and his 3 ball and mid shots have been terrible.
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Tony is probably done as an NBA guard. He's good enough to play spot minutes as a backup and occasionally have good games, but he's not worth any big money. We'll see if the Spurs really are doing loyalty contracts because if Parker played for Ainge, he'd be walking this summer, but they'd do a video thank-you production for him on Tony Parker night in a random game in November.
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Re: how much does tony get re-signed for?
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cd98
Tony is probably done as an NBA guard. He's good enough to play spot minutes as a backup and occasionally have good games, but he's not worth any big money. We'll see if the Spurs really are doing loyalty contracts because if Parker played for Ainge, he'd be walking this summer, but they'd do a video thank-you production for him on Tony Parker night in a random game in November.
Parker did his thing, as long as he wants to and contribute i say go for it, but i wont offer him any real $$ offer.. Maybe pay him in HEB buddy buckets... You know HEB is good for it...
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Whatever it is, it will be better-spent money than what they burn with Mills and especially Gasol.
The Spurs would be better off picking up little dribblers from the Pizza Hut midnight basketball leagues at this point than that expired fossil.