Do you like Pop talking about Trump?

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Originally Posted by hemann82

how is a sports team going to the white house about the military?

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It's called being a patriot. Instead of being a little whiner and not showing up. Yes, it's a free country and they have that right but it's the highest honor and they turned it down because of Trump being the president. All it does is create more divide when players do that. If Obama or Hillary was there they would show up.

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Originally Posted by hemann82

hmmm 10 second sound bites times 6 equals one minute time 60 equals one hour ... nah pop hasn't given 3600 quotes on the topic.

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You did the math :lol

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Originally Posted by hemann82

“President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead.”


- obama did something
- (gop congress did block/would’ve blocked Anything else obama would do)
- trump undid it
- obama isnt potus anymore trump is (window for “thanks obama” is all but shut”)

but you know :cry maga :cry
:cry triggered :cry mah american guns america :cry

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Obama used gun control as an means of demonizing republicans. When he had the chance, he did nothing. You can defend him all you want, but you can’t hide the fact that he spent no political capital on gun reform. Period.

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Originally Posted by diego

dude, you are literally accusing obama of doing nothing, when he did do something, which was later revoked by trump. and even if obama didnt do anything (remember, he did, but lets play out the hypothetical), pop didnt start calling trump a coward because of guns, he called him a coward for lying about being the only president to contact the families of dead soldiers (and more in general, for lying to inflate his own ego).

if you are going to say obama was equal to trump on gun policy, please show me an article like the one just posted with the word "the NRA applauded president Obama" , just because he didnt get something done doesnt mean he didnt want to and it certainly doesnt mean he's the same as trump, neither in his political stance nor public behavior.

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You need a person writing an article to teach you how to think? Look at the Obama bill. Don’t read an article. It was aimed at a small class on nonviolent mentally ill people that have no link to any gun violence. It was window dressing to fool people like you into thinking he was “doing something.” Again, I don’t blame Obama for playing political games on the electorate. Republicans do it too. I just can’t stand the hypocrisy of condemning Trump (who I dislike personally) when Obama has the same unclean hands.

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Originally Posted by cd98

You need a person writing an article to teach you how to think? Look at the Obama bill. Don’t read an article. It was aimed at a small class on nonviolent mentally ill people that have no link to any gun violence. It was window dressing to fool people like you into thinking he was “doing something.” Again, I don’t blame Obama for playing political games on the electorate. Republicans do it too. I just can’t stand the hypocrisy of condemning Trump (who I dislike personally) when Obama has the same unclean hands.

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Not the same unclean hands. There is nuance. NrA, gun nuts spent 8 years crying about Obama coming to take their guns, meanwhile in one year they are applauding Trump for removing regulations. Obama didn't do enough, what Trump has done IS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. Not the same at all

And Mr critical thinker still didn't grasp why pop called him a coward, let me quote it so you can explain what Obama did that was similar that pop should have called him a coward over:

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“I’ve been amazed and disappointed by so much of what this president had said, and his approach to running this country, which seems to be one of just a never-ending divisiveness,” Popovich told Zirin. “But his comments today about those who have lost loved ones in times of war and his lies that previous presidents Obama and Bush never contacted their families are so beyond the pale, I almost don’t have the words.”


Popovich also spoke of his contempt for Trump’s inner circle. “This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner– and to lie about how previous presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers – is as low as it gets,” Popovich added.

“We have a pathological liar in the White House, unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office, and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this president should be ashamed, because they know better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it.”

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Where is pop wrong here?

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Originally Posted by cd98

You need a person writing an article to teach you how to think? Look at the Obama bill. Don’t read an article. It was aimed at a small class on nonviolent mentally ill people that have no link to any gun violence. It was window dressing to fool people like you into thinking he was “doing something.” Again, I don’t blame Obama for playing political games on the electorate. Republicans do it too. I just can’t stand the hypocrisy of condemning Trump (who I dislike personally) when Obama has the same unclean hands.

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Oh, and please show me Republican lip service / window dressing for gun control, I'd love to see it!

I think he is using his platform to say things that need to be shouted from the rooftops and I commend him. He understands that life isn't just about work but helping the people around you to become better people not beating them down for your own personal benefit.

And as others have said, I love how it makes you snowflakes quiver with anger that someone is calling you out for being the racists you pretend you aren't. The truth hurts for a reason.

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Originally Posted by tbdog

The whole country needs to stop with the Trump stomps. Really, you voted him in. You made your bed, so sleep in it and make a change next election.

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There will be no change. The economy is humming; media can hype their drama all they want; it won't matter.

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Originally Posted by diego

Not the same unclean hands. There is nuance. NrA, gun nuts spent 8 years crying about Obama coming to take their guns, meanwhile in one year they are applauding Trump for removing regulations. Obama didn't do enough, what Trump has done IS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. Not the same at all

And Mr critical thinker still didn't grasp why pop called him a coward, let me quote it so you can explain what Obama did that was similar that pop should have called him a coward over:



Where is pop wrong here?

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I'm not a Trump advocate, so you're wasting your time trying to convince me that he isn't presidential. But if you think that Obama using demonizing rhetoric to get votes from far left Dems while opting to do nothing about gun control for fear of losing seats in Congress is any difference in substance than Trump not doing anything to limit gun rights because it would hurt him politically, then you truly are only seeing things through your partisan lens.

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Originally Posted by diego

Oh, and please show me Republican lip service / window dressing for gun control, I'd love to see it!

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No. Republicans claim that they are for reigning in government and controlling spending. They campaigned for years on a repeal of Obamacare. But once they took control of the presidency and Congress, not only could they not get their party to vote for repeal, but they admitted that they had no better plan all along. They were just attacking Obamacare for votes. And now they've signed a spending bill that Dems wouldn't even propose if in power, at least not with a straight face. So no, Republicans aren't giving lip service to gun control, like the Dems, but they are giving lip service to other policies to try and get votes.

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Originally Posted by hemann82

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ol-mass-shoot/

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Obama couldn’t institute another ban without Congress, but he could still strengthen existing laws. (He had promised to "enforce the laws we’ve already got" during his re-election campaign. We rated that a Promise Kept.) He included the ban as part of a sweeping set of suggested legislation and 23 executive actions he announced in January 2013.
His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.


"There is little more that Obama could have done on gun control," UCLA constitutional law professor Adam Winkler said. "The president's power is limited, and the NRA wrote the laws to restrict what the executive can do."
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"There were some really smart ways for an administration to do what it could without new gun laws," Heyne said. "The president really used the bully pulpit as best he could with a Congress stuck in unprecedented gridlock."
Whether any of Obama’s actions remain in place is up to the next president, Republican Donald Trump.
"Obama's executive actions on guns are likely to be reversed quickly," Winkler said. "The NRA has close ties to Trump and the organization is eager to reverse Obama's reforms."

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:cry demonizing :cry

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Fast and Furious...Love Politifact, a left leaning fact check group. Bravo. Obama could have gotten gun control legislation passed in the early part of his term, but he didn't want to do it because he knew it would play bad politically. As a law school graduate, I am well aware of the views of constitutional law professors and they are definitely far left leaning. So I wouldn't take a left leaning person's word as gospel like you do. But that said, if you think Obama didn't use gun control solely as a political weapon against Republicans, show me where he demonized red state democrats. I don't think you'll find any "articles" on that.

Everything has so much politics anymore. I use sports (and this forum) as an escape from that bullshit. All politicians are the same--out to empower themselves and their party. If that happens to help the country that's okay, but it is just a coincidental byproduct. Give me term limits for politicians and disallow federal employees from unionizing and our country would be way better off. So Pop should just use his mouth to suck off Kawhi until he gets his ass back on the court and stop talking politics.

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Originally Posted by cd98

I'm not a Trump advocate, so you're wasting your time trying to convince me that he isn't presidential. But if you think that Obama using demonizing rhetoric to get votes from far left Dems while opting to do nothing about gun control for fear of losing seats in Congress is any difference in substance than Trump not doing anything to limit gun rights because it would hurt him politically, then you truly are only seeing things through your partisan lens.

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Demonizing rhetoric? GTFOH.

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Originally Posted by buttsR4rebounding

Everything has so much politics anymore. I use sports (and this forum) as an escape from that bullshit. All politicians are the same--out to empower themselves and their party. If that happens to help the country that's okay, but it is just a coincidental byproduct. Give me term limits for politicians and disallow federal employees from unionizing and our country would be way better off. So Pop should just use his mouth to suck off Kawhi until he gets his ass back on the court and stop talking politics.

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Politics are big business. They make a lot of money and have a lot of power. The funny thing is watching people believe that everything their party does is right and principled. It’s all a scam and most people don’t see it because they think a politician really cares about the issues.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Politics are big business. They make a lot of money and have a lot of power. The funny thing is watching people believe that everything their party does is right and principled. It’s all a scam and most people don’t see it because they think a politician really cares about the issues.

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Some politicians do care. Just because the ones you vote for don't, shouldn't allow for the write-off of all of them.

Tell me Obama didn't believe, viscerally so, in getting stricter gun laws enacted after watching his press conference in the wake of Sandy Hook.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Politics are big business. They make a lot of money and have a lot of power. The funny thing is watching people believe that everything their party does is right and principled. It’s all a scam and most people don’t see it because they think a politician really cares about the issues.

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I agree that the whole system is a scam. A capitalism in itself is a scam that only benefits the few. I agree with pop that since they have a voice and spotlight, they use it to make our voices heard(the many that does not have a lot of money which are people who make <$370k). I am a socialist at heart and Democrats get a pass for me cause they are the only party that do do things for the lower and middle class. Republicans are evil as furk. Republicans are all about the money for there donors, which are corporations and rich few. It’s pathetic that many do not recognize this.

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Originally Posted by TimDunkem

it just goes to show how irrelevant Poop is when you consider that Trump hasn't addressed him, yet will attack nobodies on Twitter while he's on the shitter in the middle of the night. :lol

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Lol why would potus respond to a nba coach? Hes maga

Pop talking about Trump means he ain't talking about basketball, which means he ain't doing his job. Ya'll want Pop to talk about Trump then you don't care much about the Spurs.

Wheres the dont care button? He can talk about whatever he wishes this is the United States of America its called freedom of speach.

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Originally Posted by widowmaker

Wheres the dont care button? He can talk about whatever he wishes this is the United States of America its called freedom of speach.

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Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should do it.

I like Pop and I agree with almost everything he says on politics. But given the difficult season we've had, I sometimes wish he would just stick to basketball.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

There will be no change. The economy is humming; media can hype their drama all they want; it won't matter.

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Very doubtful that it will be in 3 years. Evidently you forget what trickle down economics does to the debt. Add in the 1.3 trillion dollar budget he just signed which will include hundreds of billions more in deficit increases over current values.

I swear you Republicans never learn. Definition of insanity and all.

Oh and BTW, he's going down for one or more of the following crimes: racketeering, criminal conspiracy, laundering, treason, or general douchbaggery. He won't even be on the ballot in 3 years. That's a guarantee I'd put money behind.