Kiwi trade option: Screw prospects

Josh Jackson, Chriss, 2 first round picks (this years #1 pick), and a second rounder.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I think he would, yes. No one in their right mind should think LAL is a better basketball choice. If playing with Russ is persuasive to him, I can't imagine what playing SA with Pop would be. People think the situation with LMA hurts the team's chances. But I think it's the opposite. The team has long since been viewed as completely at Pop's whim. To see him willingly concede to Aldridge and for both to be better for it implies he's okay with guys speaking out and working with him to build the offense.

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Is there a legitimate scenario where we could trade kawhi for picks/young players and attach an over priced get to clear enough room to sign PG outright?

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Originally Posted by keithington1

Josh Jackson, Chriss, 2 first round picks (this years #1 pick), and a second rounder.

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I'd drive Kawhi to the airport myself.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I'd drive Kawhi to the airport myself.

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I'd tow your car to the airport with you and Kawhi in it if Phoenix takes Chriss out of the deal.

Get The Unicorn & CJ out of your heads, do not want.

OK word is out that Kyrie is done for the year, knee surgery, if Ainge really wants the KingSlayer, I want Kyrie and Tatum or Brown. Since Kiwi is higher on the pecking order of NBA players behind only LBJ, and KD (and maybe AD) he might go for it. Both players had injury marred seasons this year. Heck I go to the Pels especially if they don't make the playoffs. I know AD is good but if he can't get you where you want to go then why not trade him for the Kingslayer. For AD I would go straight up, for Kyrie I would need a little sweetener. If I am losing my All NBA player, I want an All NBA player in return.

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Originally Posted by keithington1

Josh Jackson, Chriss, 2 first round picks (this years #1 pick), and a second rounder.

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Warren is better

Two ideal scenarios I would want for Kawhi:

1.) Young player on a rookie deal with potential (if he wants to go to LA -- Kuzma or Ingram).

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2.) Guaranteed lottery pick at the draft to select the player they want.

If they can combine either one of these with a salary dump of Pau or Patty I consider that a win.It would be very unfortunate for it to come to this but I think that puts you in a position to compete again.

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Originally Posted by jermaine

I could see a trade to Hornets for Kemba an Batum

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That would be fantastic :lol

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Their first goes to Philly this year I think.

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LeGM gave us their 2018 1st in the Jordan Clarkson trade. Should be in the low to mid 20 range.

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Originally Posted by Namundy

Two ideal scenarios I would want for Kawhi:

1.) Young player on a rookie deal with potential (if he wants to go to LA -- Kuzma or Ingram).
why not both Kiwi is all NBA neither of these guys is even an All Star yet. In fact throw in Randle too for the Kingslayer.

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2.) Guaranteed lottery pick at the draft to select the player they want.
Don't want to play that game you can just as easily end up with a Lonzo (mediocre) or Anthony Bennett (bust) at the top of the draft

If they can combine either one of these with a salary dump of Pau or Patty I consider that a win.It would be very unfortunate for it to come to this but I think that puts you in a position to compete again.

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

Lakers will be happy to make that trade.

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No we wouldn't. When teams know a star is disgruntled, they get bent over (see MVPau trade or Shaq trade as evidence). Spurs will take this trade and like it: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yamqaehw :lol

Besides, Kiwi will be a FA in 2019 anywat. Let him play out next season, prove that he's back, then sign him to a max contract. 2019 Lakers be like:

Zo
PG13
Kiwi
Randle
Lopez

:toast

Brooklyn pick
Cedí Osman
Zizic
Georgie’s contract

For

Leonard
Patty

Frankly the more I think about this the more I am convinced Kiwi won’t be traded. When it’s too commonplace that Spurs fans are already thinking of dumping this injury prone china doll, you know in your heart it’s not happening and said china doll will be back next season with sore quad and all. Maybe Pop has a sit down with Kiwi and “his group” over some wine like he did with Lamarcus.

Maybe my instincts are wrong, but I think he will be back, I am just hoping that quad doesn’t turn out to be like Tiago’s calf at this point...

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Frankly the more I think about this the more I am convinced Kiwi won’t be traded. When it’s too commonplace that Spurs fans are already thinking of dumping this injury prone china doll, you know in your heart it’s not happening and said china doll will be back next season with sore quad and all. Maybe Pop has a sit down with Kiwi and “his group” over some wine like he did with Lamarcus.

Maybe my instincts are wrong, but I think he will be back, I am just hoping that quad doesn’t turn out to be like Tiago’s calf at this point...

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That's the best case scenario, much ado about nothing with Powers at other teams trying to stir the pot to eliminate the Spurs or create a new super team elsewhere. For this to be true it is just about him being that quiet. I mean Tim doesn't like talking but he never went this MIA.

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Would love both but I doubt the Lakers would do that. They can easily back out and wait for the summer, although I suspect Kawhi is a rare enough talent for them to not wait. Randle is nice but is also heading into free agency and a bigger pay day. Also not sure he'd be a good fit with LMA. We owe a lot of credit to the lottery for finding franchise talents. Considering Pop and RC's history I have no doubt they'd select another franchise pillar especially considering the talent in this upcoming draft.

There's going to be some fillers if a trade is pulled off but I think those are the key assets they target. If they can use it as an opportunity to shed salary go for it.

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Originally Posted by keithington1

Josh Jackson, Chriss, 2 first round picks (this years #1 pick), and a second rounder.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I'd tow your car to the airport with you and Kawhi in it if Phoenix takes Chriss out of the deal.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I'd drive Kawhi to the airport myself.

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Chriss is pretty bad tbh. I'd rather take three of their picks this year (projected to be the 1st, 15th, 16th, and 31st) plus another pick in leu of the number 1 pick and Jackson. I doubt that they would move the number 1 pick and while Jackson has been bad, I think they are still high on him.

Kawhi for the 15th, 16th, 31st and a lottery protected Suns 2019 pick might be a more palatable trade. Even though it seems like a lot to give up for the Suns, they'd be able to keep their own 1st; instead. giving up Milwaukee's and Miami's pick along their own second.

The Suns would be able to pair Booker with Kawhi, the number 1 pick and would be able to keep Criss, Bender, and Jackson- in the chance that one or two of those three pan out while the Spurs would obviously get great return on Kawhi with picks and cap flexiblity going forward.

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Originally Posted by John B

Kawhi for Anthony Davis straight-up. That’s the only trade I want. Davis/Boggie is pretty redundant but Boggie/Kawhi could make serious damage that Pel FO might consider. LMA/Gay/Davis/Green/Murray will be sick.

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Superstars don't get traded for other superstars tbh. Teams usually trade prospects, picks, or young stars on the rise in order to pair one with the other. New Orleans really doesn't have any of those three to nab Kawhi.

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Originally Posted by $pursDynasty

That's the best case scenario, much ado about nothing with Powers at other teams trying to stir the pot to eliminate the Spurs or create a new super team elsewhere. For this to be true it is just about him being that quiet. I mean Tim doesn't like talking but he never went this MIA.

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I am really worried about that quad. Spurs could end up with a supermaxed guy whose career peak has already passed, etc. There’s no win scenario in this if you give credibility to the fact Kiwi is indeed that hurt. I haven’t seen anything that’s truly reassuring about his injury. There’s no clear solution, there’s no surgery that will fix it, the passage of time and rehabbing hasn’t fixed it. “Sooner reather than later” hasn’t fixed it. Nothing Kiwi has said is reassuring about the injury itself.
It’s a damn shame. He’s not gaining anything by not playing. Dude is really injured.

The Cavaliers don't have enough to make a competitive offer and mid round Suns picks aren't near enough to be the centerpiece of a package. Even a prime, tier below an All-Star, like McCollum, doesn't make sense.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-kawhi-leonard

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I am really worried about that quad. Spurs could end up with a supermaxed guy whose career peak has already passed, etc. There’s no win scenario in this if you give credibility to the fact Kiwi is indeed that hurt. I haven’t seen anything that’s truly reassuring about his injury. There’s no clear solution, there’s no surgery that will fix it, the passage of time and rehabbing hasn’t fixed it. “Sooner reather than later” hasn’t fixed it. Nothing Kiwi has said is reassuring about the injury itself.
It’s a damn shame. He’s not gaining anything by not playing. Dude is really injured.

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you have stayed consistent with this theory for awhile now and i agree it's a likely scenario

i just have more faith that he will get back o being elite by next season

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Originally Posted by ceds

you have stayed consistent with this theory for awhile now and i agree it's a likely scenario

i just have more faith that he will get back o being elite by next season

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Hoping for the best but all th media is running is interference, deflection, misdirection, and drama with probably favors to som FO that want to create the rifts for their own benefits. Thinks aren’t well, sure but a big part of it is the distress the injury he caused to everyone involved. There was so much rumor and speculation that I started sticking with the official sources a while back. Nothing said about the injury is reassuring and makes you think he’s going to be a-OK.

We just assume bc we don’t know, that he can recover from this but this has been chronic since the summer. It’s been almost a year and he can’t play without pain...

We shall see like everyone else I hoped he’d be back but nothing makes me think that he will this season (except Dabom’s “sauces”) :lol

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Hoping for the best but all th media is running is interference, deflection and drama with probably favors to som FO that want to create the rifts for their own benefits. Thinks aren’t well, sure but a big part of it is the distress the injury he caused to everyone involved. There was so much rumor and speculation that I started sticking with the official sources a while back. Nothing said about the injury is reassuring and makes you think he’s going to be a-OK.

We just assume bc we don’t know, that he can recover from this but this has been chronic since the summer. It’s been almost a year and he can’t play without pain...

We shall see like everyone else I hoped he’d be back but nothing makes me think that he will this season (except Dabom’s “sauces”) :lol

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i just think we have no choice other then to offer supermax even if this drags into next season....we have no choice if we want to sty contenders

w/out kawhi we become Utah at best

supermax him & pray

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Originally Posted by ceds

i just think we have no choice other then to offer supermax even if this drags into next season....we have no choice if we want to sty contenders

w/out kawhi we become Utah at best

supermax him & pray

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There’s worst possible futures than Utah, like Derrick Rose’s Chicago Bulls. Anyways there’s nothing more to it but pray let’s see what happens in the summer if he’s supermaxed I will be relieved bc I don’t think the Spurs would do it unless they believed he will be really fine at some point... :tu