NFL’s Proposed National Anthem Rules: Penalties for Kneeling Being Considered

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Originally Posted by Chris

The owners and the fans he is openly shitting on. Pick a different forum when you're not on the clock. Simple.

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No one is shitting on anything, snowflake. It's one of the more peaceful and respectful protests out there tbh.

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

No one is shitting on anything, snowflake. It's one of the more peaceful and respectful protests out there tbh.

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He's shitting on the military and the fans who take it personal. Your opinion means nothing since you don't go to the games and I'm willing to bet you've never served with your anti-American ideology. You don't understand that there are consequences (season ticketholders boycotting the league) You don't have to take the financial hit. You can be comfortably smug in your support of the protests because you have nothing to lose.

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Originally Posted by Chris

He's shitting on the military and the fans who take it personal.

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Snowflakes, you mean.

Call them snowflakes because that's what they are.

That's what you are.

Is kneeling bad for the NFL? Absolutely. How you handle the issue matters though. This is a bullshit way of handling it which is also bad for the NFL. It actually threw gas on the fire. We don't know how many players were going to kneel next year. They've been through an entire season of this already so they are probably more open to discussion instead of protesting till the end of their career.

Trump is wrong Chris. It's a shit protest and it is bad for the country. Handling it this way is also bad for the country.

I really wish we could do a nation wide community outreach with the police to help merge the divide.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Is kneeling bad for the NFL? Absolutely. How you handle the issue matters though. This is a bullshit way of handling it which is also bad for the NFL. It actually threw gas on the fire. We don't know how many players were going to kneel next year. They've been through an entire season of this already so they are probably more open to discussion instead of protesting till the end of their career.

Trump is wrong Chris. It's a shit protest and it is bad for the country. Handling it this way is also bad for the country.

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He's never been shy about voicing his opinion no matter the subject. He's not going to butter up his response because he truly believes in America and what a privilege it is to live here much less play football for outrageous sums of money.

He's calling out their patriotism which isn't as wrong as you think it is. It's simply tough love.

I also agree that if you can't stand for this country and you feel like you are being oppressed perhaps a change of scenery will change your mind. Nothing is stopping these players from going to the CFL or another venue to apply their craft.

The League is correct for punishing this kind of behavior and it is their right to do so. This is a business after all and if you can't play by the rules you should be fired no matter what company you are working for. I'm curious how you think Trump should have reacted to the ruling.

The League also gave the players an out to stay off the field if they don't want to stand absolving themselves of the aforementioned "forced patriotism." Brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Chris

He's never been shy about voicing his opinion no matter the subject. He's not going to butter up his response because he truly believes in America and what a privilege it is to live here much less play football for outrageous sums of money.

He's calling out their patriotism which isn't as wrong as you think it is. It's simply tough love.

I also agree that if you can't stand for this country and you feel like you are being oppressed perhaps a change of scenery will change your mind. Nothing is stopping these players from going to the CFL or another venue to apply their craft.

The League is correct for punishing this kind of behavior and it is their right to do so. This is a business after all and if you can't play by the rules you should be fired no matter what company you are working for. I'm curious how you think Trump should have reacted to the ruling.

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He's utilizing very ineffective tactics to get people to stand. Perhaps discussing some statistics on police treatment between the races. Perhaps argue the absurdity of using the anthem as your irrelevant protest stage knowing there will never be a time to not protest an issue. Perhaps we can lessen drug laws or treat it medically which will limit interaction and tension. Perhaps we can create more community outreach so the community and police will be on better terms. Continued conversation on why you think people should stand is also fine. Trying to shame/bully people to your side isn't a good solution.

Of course they have the right to do it. Companies have the right to squash the presence of conservative talkers. That doesn't mean the public should support those actions.

Trump should have never got involved in the manner that he did. He could've made his opinion known but he did it in a negative way. Explain your side but don't berate the other side.

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Originally Posted by Chris

The League also gave the players an out to stay off the field if they don't want to stand absolving themselves of the aforementioned "forced patriotism." Brilliant.

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Yeah, I read someone else say this. That makes it more reasonable. Should have been more of the focus to the public.

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Originally Posted by Chris

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:lol still bitter he couldn't get an NFL team and fucked up the team he actually had.

:rollin shouldn't be in the country

NFL knows it has competition in the form of the XFL coming soon in 2020. Trying to win back the hearts and minds of the fans they spurned, but it may be too late. Trump simply needs to endorse the NFL and a lot of the "boycotters" will return.

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

:lol still bitter he couldn't get an NFL team and fucked up the team he actually had.

:rollin shouldn't be in the country

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Are you happy to be here Pavlov?

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Originally Posted by Chris

Are you happy to be here Pavlov?

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Be where?

On ST?

:lmao

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

It's quite easy to recognize the protest issues and think it's disrespectful to other things. That's why a protest should pick a relevant stage. There will never be a time when there isn't an issue worth protesting. It'd be moronic to just pile those on irrelevant stages.

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Not only speech can be disrespectful, it can be outright offensive, and it's obviously one of the pillars of the United States.

Plus, if we're to measure the protest success as far as raising awareness of the cause, and widespread coverage, it was definitely effective.

Heck, probably 90% of other people that protest for different reasons on a daily basis would love to have that kind of 'irrelevant stage'...

You know when the kneeling is going to stop? When snowflakes stop getting triggered about it.

I don't even get what's upsetting about some random dude kneeling while the anthem is playing. Somebody is probably taking a shit in the bathroom too, what's the big deal?

Snowflake is a term for Liberals. You guys keep stealing our shit. It's pretty sad tbh

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Snowflake is a term for Liberals. You guys keep stealing our shit. It's pretty sad tbh

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But you are a snowflake, Chris.

So sensitive....

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Snowflake is a term for Liberals. You guys keep stealing our shit. It's pretty sad tbh

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A 2017 article from Think Progress commented: "The insult expanded to encompass not just the young, but liberals of all ages; it became the epithet of choice for right-wingers to fling at anyone who could be accused of being too easily offended, too in need of "safe spaces, too fragile"

If it walks like a duck...

You can insinuate that the military and season ticket holders are snowflakes. That is your theory and prerogative. I tend to have a little bit more respect than that, but to each their own.

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You can insinuate that the military and season ticket holders are snowflakes. That is your theory and prerogative. I tend to have a little bit more respect than that, but to each their own.

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I certainly don't discriminate, if you're triggered by the kneeling, they won and they're gonna come back.

Much like people make the argument that banning all guns is not the solution, banning this thing only gives it more magnitude and meaning. Streisand effect.

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Originally Posted by Chris

You can insinuate that the military and season ticket holders are snowflakes. That is your theory and prerogative. I tend to have a little bit more respect than that, but to each their own.

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Kneeling was a military man's idea in the first place.

Now what, Chris?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I certainly don't discriminate, if you're triggered by the kneeling, they won and they're gonna come back.

Much like people make the argument that banning all guns is not the solution, banning this thing only gives it more magnitude and meaning. Streisand effect.

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The players kneeling are not prepared to suffer the consequences hence the lawsuits. Turns out virtue signaling can have repercussions. I have no sympathy for these ne'er-do-wells.

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Originally Posted by Pavlov

You don't give a fuck about military personnel if they don't follow your agenda so don't pretend you do, OK?

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You sound angry.

lol you edited that fast :lol

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The players kneeling are not prepared to suffer the consequences hence the lawsuits. Turns out virtue signaling can have repercussions. I have no sympathy for these ne'er-do-wells.

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What lawsuits, Chris?

Is there some kind of civil snowflake law they are violating?