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Originally Posted by Slomo
It's hard to ignore the pattern. It's also not like the truth is that shocking. It's a strange quirk of this front office, almost like Pop has to convince himself that he wasn't forced into making a decision that was based on financial/cap concerns.
Has Nazr been great this preseason?
Has he even had the opportunity?
Exactly.
So he should have a sick wife and a newborn held over his head?
The Spurs spent the entire first week of training camp working from the ground up- often twice a day- and Nazr was there. Pop said he has had an up an down camp-- not pre-season-- which leads me to guess he has not caught on as quickly as they had hoped and has not been impressive in practice. We have no idea what occurs at practice and what they go over and who gets what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Maybe I missed it, but who's holding it over his head?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
So Rasho should have had his injury held over his head?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Difference here is Nazr has time to win his spot back.
Of course, it would only be for "showcasing" purposes right?
Out of curiosity - is there a reason that his family lives in Kentucky? I mean, that's fine, I know that happens frequently, but does he have other family there?
Perhaps he met her when attending the U of Kentucky.
I haven't said that he should have his starter's gig guaranteed. An injury is one thing. Being healthy and unable to participate in training camp because your wife is sick after giving birth is quite another.
Also, I like how Pop is now so suddenly concerned about training camp.
Not really -- it's not like he ever played that much better than Rasho.Quote:
An injury is one thing. Being healthy and unable to participate in training camp because your wife is sick after giving birth is quite another.
And really, how can anyone expect starting jobs to be guaranteed after Manu's benching two years in a row?Did not everyone in this forum say they thought Nazr would learn alot in a full training camp?Quote:
Also, I like how Pop is now so suddenly concerned about training camp.
Pop cares a lot about training camp. He doesn't care about exhibition game wins or losses.
Pop cited his absence as a reason that Mohammed was in trouble. See the article in the inital post in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I didn't expect anything to be guaranteed. But I'd say that having to go home because your wife is ill after giving birth is not exactly something to be nicked for.Quote:
And really, how can anyone expect starting jobs to be guaranteed after Manu's benching two years in a row?Did not everyone in this forum say they thought Nazr would learn alot in a full training camp?
Trouble? He has every opportunity to be showcased later.Quote:
Pop cited his absence as a reason that Mohammed was in trouble.
And I'd say getting injured or having your teammate suck off the bench aren't the greatest reasons for being benched either.Quote:
I didn't expect anything to be guaranteed. But I'd say that having to go home because your wife is ill after giving birth is not exactly something to be nicked for.
Yet, there they are.
If he was playing in a manner that they were okay with, it wouldn't matter that he took some time off or why. Obviously they're seeing something they're not happy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
I don't think they are displeased with what they've seen but the point is that last year he wasn't in training camp (he wasn't here yet) and so in the postseason last year, he was just winging it. He did fine on offense (outside over pumping) but was pretty bad defensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carie
So this training camp was the time for him to learn all those things that he missed last year. Well now, because of the fate of his child's birth and consequently his wife's illness, he hasn't been here to learn anything.
As far as why he lives in Kentucky -- that's where he lives -- he went to school there, he has a home there, and his wife's family lives there I believe.
It's not unusual. Doesn't Bowen still have a home in Miami?
Am I reading this right? He wasn't able to learn the things he needs to improve his game (read: defense) during training camp. Basically, what I was trying to say (in reference to Marcus's post) is that they're not just not playing him simply because he wasn't in training camp, as a form of punishment or something. They're not seeing what they want from him. Had he improved his game (defense) his time away from camp wouldn't have been an issue.
Ha. If it isn't trouble was is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Neither is your contract, but we know how that works.Quote:
And I'd say getting injured or having your teammate suck off the bench aren't the greatest reasons for being benched either.
Yet, there they are.
Oh, did Pop not say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carie
Did he not say what, that Nazr wasn't being punished? Not being a bitch :) Just don't understand the question.
ignore him.
Hes got the blinds closed waiting for the black helicopters.
Mohammed has missed time, and the time hes been in camp maybe hes struggled.
Once again, if Pop says hes had an up and down camp, how is that not factual?
Of course, Stay Puff, Pop always tells the truth. I bet he chopped down a cherry tree when he was a kid too.
Logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Yeah, Pop really said Malik was a piece of shit this time last year.Quote:
Neither is your contract, but we know how that works.
And I do have difficulty buying the "depress Nazr's market value" argument.
The biggest argument the Spurs make for signing players under market value is -- well -- signing players under market value. We can play the cheap management card all we want, but who besides Cablevision is not paying attention to the bottom line now and had that influence their moves accordingly?