And MVPatty to replace any of those guys and we can be fire brahs.
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And MVPatty to replace any of those guys and we can be fire brahs.
Hopefully that fathead number 2 and that white center add some good minutes too.
Forbes is a horrible stain on the roster, tbh. And Davis Bonner, tbh.
Pau of course gonna add some good rebounding minutes.
You're just going for post count at this point, right?
First 3 guys can actually break their man down 1 on 1. :wow
Rudy can easily get his shot when he wants to.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
He gonna get that Stephen Jackson open looks all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I like Derrick White over Dejounte and Lonnie for now.
[QUOTE=dabom;9493400]Hopefully that fathead number 2 and that white center add some good minutes too
Dat funny
Losing both Green and Anderson hurts, a lot. Bellynelly and DeRozan are huge drop offs defensive-wise.
They might be a pleasant surprise, considering the dumpster fire expectations.
hello
3rd seed
:bobo
Lonnie ain't ready and he's not really a good shooter. Throw Lil' Fathead in there and we are set.
Demar will be playing with a chip on his shoulder. Rudy very motivated to have a strong year. Dj's gonna have a breakout season. LMA ready for year two in beast mode. Pop will be much more focused. This going to be the hungriest spurs squad since '14.
sup guys
That line up has tons of potential, what I like most about it is that you can plug in lots of different players and still work.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
1) DJ Lonnie DDR Rudy LA and Pau, would be fun to watch offensively. Give the ball to DDR who is able to take his man and if the double team comes give it to Pau who has high basketball IQ; He can shoot the open three at a high rate so you can't leave him alone and he can play the Hi-Lo game with LA or pass to Lonnie who also can make the open three. It's the way were up by 25 against the warriors, replace Lonnie with Danny, obviously.
2) DJ Lonnie DDR Rudy LA and Patty, would be fantastic.
3) DJ Lonnie DDR Rudy LA and Belli, could be an upgrade from 2 depending on who plays better defense; Patty or Beli to be honest.
4) DJ Lonnie DDR Rudy LA and Dante, would definitely be an upgrade on D from 1-3.
5) DJ Lonnie DDR Rudy LA and Derrick/Bryn/Davis all work in my mind :)
I don't know how long it will take but I can see Lonnie being a prime Danny Green. I think he has the offense already down and I hope he focus on defense, so he can stay on the court.
White would probably be the best option in sg right now
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Originally Posted by KimmyGib
Agree, agree
:bobo
Add to that the NBA 3 point shooting champ Bellineli
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Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
How about poitn guard?
Truly a versatile line up
I wonder if we could Manimal plus one 3 AND D small forward someday....
Then we are set
Lol...Lonnie probably wont even play.
They can be the raptors from 2013.
Ferrari nogas
He will win the starting rotation by december
Book this
Presenting the new court general of the Spurs!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by hater
You mean Marco good Sir?
What about offensive-wise?Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
D White: A court general whose game is predicated on intelligence, basketball IQ, skill and smarts!
like him!!!!!
THE PNR BETWEEN WHITE AND JACOB SHALL BE FANTASTIC!!!!!!!
wouldnt you say guys??
Should be. But Pop has already hitched his wagon to DJ over White, the natural PG. Pop will push White to SG to accommodate DJ who doesn't have PG instincts/skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
Not as long as Pop and DJ are with the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
The Spurs bench is quite amazing
White at point, Jacob at center
Belli and Gay
then Manu or Bertans or Cunningham or even Walker
The potential is certainly there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
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Originally Posted by sasaint
----------------------------Maybe they switch, hmmm?
Then Derozan as small forward in small ball............??
Yea sirQuote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
DJ has to develop a much better 3-ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
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Originally Posted by sasaint
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:bobo
We're overloaded at the 2. If Manu rerurns, doubt Lonnie gets much playing time. With DDR, White, Marco, Forbes, idk how lonnie gets much time either way actually
Speaking of which. https://youtu.be/PUGtXODMm_M.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018...-overdrive-nba
Sad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
Coming off consecutive 60-win seasons, last season felt like a disappointment with all of the Kawhi nonsense and not breaking 50. Expectations were high after the two prior years, and the team fell flat due to circumstances out of their control.
This season, nobody knows what to expect. We could win 30. We could win 55. At least there isn't this built up expectation, so even if the Spurs only do ho-hum, it will still be a pleasant surprise.
I like Lonnie, but I think Belli starts over him but maybe not for long until Lonnie finds his way because he is the better defensive player. I sincerely hope not Mills though. And pls no more Mills on PG. He’s best at SG coming from the bench as streaky scorer.
Lonnie definitely has the tools, but after seeing him in summer league, I really don't think he is ready for NBA minutes. He has a long ways to go with his shooting, ball-handling, and decision making.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
I'd love to just throw him out there and see if he sinks or swims, but that's not really a recipe for the team being competitive. I just don't see him getting a lot of minutes with Murray, DeMar, Mills, Manu, Beli, White, and (ugh) Forbes all fighting for that guard spot.
Maybe he shows up to training camp and forces Pop's hand, but I expect Lonnie will be spending quite a bit of time in Austin this year, and he could probably use the playing time instead of playing 5-10 spot minutes off the bench.
They can experiment with 5 SG line ups :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
Also, i just dont get why they re-signed Forbes. Hope I'm proven wrong, but he's a defensive liability and unnecessary. I think PATFO think his elite shooting+ability to somewhat drive will make him worth the money, but his small size at the 2 and lack of D makes him almosy worthless. Granted he's a worker on D, but just too small. Plus we have Patty so why we need 2 of these guys?
I don't get it either. Just doesn't make a lick of sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
Hard to distinguish trolling from genuine takes in this thread.
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Originally Posted by JPB
I wish they would have signed Cousins.
Forbes is fine, he makes marginal money and is on a short deal, the problem is Patty.
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Originally Posted by JPB
Case in point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
Forbes is there in case Spurs trade Patty, I hope
I sincerely think they could have taken a shot on Cousins. He's pretty cheap and he'd be playing for a contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
He'd be on his best behavior and have something to prove.
Even at 70%, he'd be a nice piece to have down low.
:pop: "This season isn't for Lonnie."Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
Lonnie is far too raw to spend more minutes in The Show this season than a much more NBA-ready White spent last season. Lonnie needs to beast in the G League this year.
As for DJ: draining selected threes in an empty gym doesn't show me anything, and putting on rebounding clinics isn't what we need from a PG. Gravy without the chicken fry.
I don't want to see him get 5-10 minutes average when we have Murray and White who need every minute they can get. Especially White who is far more ready and already spent a season playing against boys in the G League. We simply have too many young guys to develop all of them simultaneously - another reason White should have logged more time in The Show last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Except that Pop isn't likely to bring in that kind of personality onto the team when he's trying to remake it. And he's not likely to play until January.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
While it was frustrating not to have him last year more than we did, that decision is going to pay off in spades this year as the kid gets serious playing time and becomes one of our best players. He had that kind of development last year. He'll even acknowledge that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
I certainly hope so. I have serious doubts about Pop's plans to utilize him. Nonetheless, that just reinforces how much Lonnie needs to be in Austin rather than San Antonio next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
I do wonder sometimes if a strong coach and winning culture might have a strong positive impact on him...Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
I agree with all that. There's certainly some risk. I just don't think that Cousins would be behave poorly with what he has at stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
That being said, he is a nut and if his recovery was going poorly, he might not be able to control himself.
Lonnie isnt ready to start. He is super raw. Beli will start if manu returns imo
I am typing words
How does Lonnie get in the lineup, let alone start? Beli, Manu, etc. are not starting b/c of DDR (at least that's what i think, unless they put DDR at the 3, which is dumb cuz he cant play good D well enough against other 3s to have consistent minutes at that position). Obv. Pop will mess with lineup a million times, but I think we see this lineup the most: Murray, DDR, Gay, LMA, Gasol and for small ball it'll be Murray, Patty, DDR, Gay, LMA (this lineup doesn't get much play though imo, but rough draft). Also I think many are overhyping White. He sucked ass last year and although he looks fantastic in G-league, no guarantee he'll do well in the rotation.
you mean subtract?Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
"Dejounte, Lonnie, DeStar, Rudy and LMA looks beast tbh"
Source or its not true.
Walker will spend most of his time in G League but he will get called up more then White did last year. Pop needs to release White this season he easily is in the top 3 of ball handlers DDR, and Manu rounding out our best ball handlers on our team.
I agree Pop is going to have fun this season I think a lot of guys are going to make a point that this is their team not K-Y
With Kawhi gone, he's gone from player fan to simply fanboy. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Forbes' offensive talent is not the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanfromwestwood
Versatility is nice
#DoneDealQuote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
This Derozan being is ATHLETIC guys!!!!!
hehehehehehehe
Personally I think it's because they hope either Forbes or Mills is on shooting wise any given night, it also lets the trade market for Mills be more open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
So what's the over under on 20 games played for Leonard?
Trade Mills for a defensive 3
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Originally Posted by cutewizard
Slow your roll. Everyone knows MVPatty mister 12 "O" ONE is staying. :hat
Am I the only one that thinks Pop will simply go with Murray, DDR, Gay, LMA, Gasol?
Mills, Beli, Manu, Bertans, and Poeltl would be the bench, assuming Manu returns.
That seems like the most likely scenario.
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Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
To make things weirder; Sean McDonald (beat writer) appeared on the Back to Back podcast and mentioned at least 3 times that the Spurs coaches really like Derrick White.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
White and Beli are both better than Forbes and fill the same role as him, it has to be an asset play- no other team was interested so they locked him up for $5 million over two years because they like him too.
I basically agree with you although I am convinced Cunningham will start over Gay when we absolutely need a defensive "stopper."Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
if it depend on me i would start: Patty, Bryn, DeMar, LMA and Jacob
Yeo. It's just another guy they can hold on to until he needs replace Belli,Manu,Mills.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
White over Bryn easily. He might be better at Bryn in everything (specially height) except a 3 or shooting contest, even then it is probably closeQuote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
second unite: DJM, DW, Manu, Rudy and Pau with Loonie and Metu getting little minutes to close the rotation while Marco and Davis go fuck themselves...Quote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
You CAN NOT start Bryn AND Patty, man. Quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
You can if tanking is the main priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
I still believe Bryan was brought back because Mills will be traded.
Mills for RoCo would make so much sense for both teams.
Did someone forget to tell you? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
Gasol, LMA, and Murray had an excellent defensive rtg together last season, when looking at 3 man lineups. Green and Anderson often played along with them- which certainly helped but the Gasol and Aldridge pairing had similar results, despite not always playing with two of those 3 perimeter player's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusternino
That's a long winded way of saying that the Spurs defense is already good when Gasol and Aldridge share the floor because of the rim protection that both provide; Murray's presence only helps them, and DeRozen is DeRozen on D- not good, but hopefully better. I think Gay was fine defensively last season, he isn't a stopper by any means but he does have two bigs behind him to help him and Murray to harass PGs.
That unit is also massive in terms of size and length with good athleticism on the perimeter-limited opponents transition opportunities by not turning the ball over, contesting and forcing the other team off the 3 point line and not fouling are staples of Pops defenses, they should be able to stay well enough to be an effective defensive unit.
Starting Cunningham seems unnecessary and unlikely for those reasons, plus Gay is a much better offensive player.
Cunningham probably doesn't play regular minutes, and if Manu returns, I suspect Gay and Manu would play most of the SF minutes next season.
Any idea on who gets the 15th spot? Hearing a lot of rumble of Metu and Blossomgame being our two way contracts. Anyone on the open market besides Greg Monroe look good?Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
you want to start strong by maximize the backcourt outside shooting to open the floor for DeMar Driving and mid range game and LMA post and mid range game...Quote:
Originally Posted by offset formation
imagine that big lineup have we kept Fathead: DJM(6'5"), DDR(6'8"), Kyle(6'10"), LMA(6'11"), Yaakov(7,1")
Start Bryn and Patty? :lmao :lmao :lmao
Great. We can get 20 points out of them combined while giving up 40!
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Originally Posted by TimDunkem