With Tony's departure and Manu's potential retirement, its now time to rank them.

The Era is done. Ginobili and Parker wont be achieving anything at this point in their careers. So How would you rank the best Spur of all time?

Obviously I'm gonna refrain from naming one player whose accomplishment alone would have sitting as the best ever in many franchise but I realizes spursfans have blood in their underwear right now. So with that said, heres my top list.

1. TD - Popvich is nothing but a glorified Coach Bud without this guy. 47 wins without a star lol.

2. David Robinson - Season MVP enough said.

3. Tony Parker - Finals MVP, 4 time All NBA, 6 time All star.

4. Geroge Gervin - played in the 70s amd back then being able to do a layup in an athletic manner is as big as an accomplishment as winning a chip. Not gonna take points away from gervin for being born in the 50s-60s.

5 Manu Ginobili - 2 All Star Apperance in 16 years.

We need to be sure if Manu continues and if so, how he does the team without Kawhi.
Also it's not good for neither Tony and Manu that his last season was marked by a player that quit on his own team.
Both deserved one more year.

Manu 3, porker is a scrub.

1. TD - Carried scrubs per par.
2. DRob - Tried to carry scrubs.
3. TP - Outplayed scrubs per par.
4. Gervin - Outscrubbed scrubs.
5. Manu - Outplayed bench scrubs per par.

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The Era is done. Ginobili and Parker wont be achieving anything at this point in their careers. So How would you rank the best Spur of all time?

Obviously I'm gonna refrain from naming one player whose accomplishment alone would have sitting as the best ever in many franchise but I realizes spursfans have blood in their underwear right now. So with that said, heres my top list.

1. TD - Popvich is nothing but a glorified Coach Bud without this guy. 47 wins without a star lol.

2. David Robinson - Season MVP enough said.

3. Tony Parker - Finals MVP, 4 time All NBA, 6 time All star.

4. Geroge Gervin - played in the 70s amd back then being able to do a layup in an athletic manner is as big as an accomplishment as winning a chip. Not gonna take points away from gervin for being born in the 50s-60s.

5 Manu Ginobili - 2 All Star Apperance in 16 years.

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Porker isn’t a top five spur

There really is not legit argument for Manu over TP in terms of overall contribution.

Gervin was before my time but judging by his accomplishments I rank him the third greatest Spurs of all time. Gervin had multiple scoring titles, made all-nba first team several times, and lead the Spurs to a few conference finals.

Tony Parker - unranked. :lmao

I challenge anyone to make a compelling case for Manu over TP without using BS arguments like "hero" "faught hard"

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I challenge anyone to make a compelling case for Manu over TP without using BS arguments like "hero" "faught hard"

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How about “doesnt bang teammates’ wives”, tbh?

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I challenge anyone to make a compelling case for Manu over TP without using BS arguments like "hero" "faught hard"

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I have Tony over Manu as a Spur, but a case can definitely be made for Manu. Specially now that Manu will play his entire career for the Spurs, and Tony won't.

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I challenge anyone to make a compelling case for Manu over TP without using BS arguments like "hero" "faught hard"

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manu plays defense.

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I have Tony over Manu as a Spur, but a case can definitely be made for Manu. Specially now that Manu will play his entire career for the Spurs, and Tony won't.

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Manu was still winning titles for the Spurs at 35. Porker is washed up and old and is being shipped off to hell.

manu's also on the floor to close games out while parker rides the bench.

even manu's rookie year he was on the floor to close out game 6 against the nets.

Porker has to have his ass saved by Speedy Clayton!!! :lol

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Porker has to have his ass saved by Speedy Clayton!!! :lol

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Patty Mills. Boogie Gibson..

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In any ranking of all-time greatest Spurs you have to rank Speedy Clayton above Porker tbh.

Tony poured his soul into this organization and this is what he gets?

op wanted george hill to replace tony parker

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lol

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Tony poured his soul into this organization and this is what he gets?

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Have you thought of a nickname for your raptors forum profile?

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Tony poured his soul into this organization and this is what he gets?

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Yeah, and he poured his soul into teammates’ wives, too.

OP used to be a Porker hater. He’s all over the place.

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OP used to be a Porker hater. He’s all over the place.

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He’s an attention whore

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How about “doesnt bang teammates’ wives”, tbh?

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Prove he did!
Spurs get rid of baggage if it happened they would have traded him

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Prove he did!
Spurs get rid of baggage if it happened they would have traded him

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Poop always protected Porker. I think he had some dirt on him tbh.

1. TD
2. Kawhi
3. David
4. Tony








5. Gervin























6. Silas
7. Sean
8. Bowen
9. Green
10. Avery

Manu is somewhere from 11-15 tbh

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1. TD
2. Kawhi
3. David
4. Tony








5. Gervin























6. Bowen

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You forgot Sean Elliott, tbh

I always use rankings by peak value and career value as developed by Bill James. Peak value is your highest level of sustained value, basically your top 3-4 seasons. It doesn't mean a hot streak from one week in January. Career value is the cumulative value of the whole career, including successes in the regular season and playoffs, and awards and leaderboards.
Peak value Spurs
1. Duncan
2. Robinson
3. Leonard
4. Ginobili
5.Gervin
6.Parker

Career value
1. Duncan
2. Robinson
3. Parker
4. Gervin
5. Ginobili
6. Eliott

Ridiculous. Parker is a guaranteed top 5 Spur and an arguable top 3.

TD
DR
GG
TP/Manu

"When there is talk about the best point guards, sometimes they don't talk about me. But that is not my main motivation. They can talk about Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Deron Williams, and Chris Paul. I still have the most rings." Damn right.

Parker is the third greatest Spur of all time behind Robinson.

WS regular season plus playoffs

244.2 Duncan
196.2 Robinson
127.2 Ginobili
124.0 Parker
117.2 Gervin
69.0 Leonard
60.3 Elliott
60.1 Silas
53.4 Johnson
41.5 Gilmore

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Ridiculous. Parker is a guaranteed top 5 Spur and an arguable top 3.

TD
DR
GG
Manu/TP

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WS regular season plus playoffs

244.2 Duncan
196.2 Robinson
127.2 Ginobili
124.0 Parker
117.2 Gervin
69.0 Leonard

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Per year:
Duncan 12.85
Robinson 14.01
Ginobili 7.95
Parker 7.29
Leonard 9.85

I've got Parker and Strickland very close to each other.
Strickland was a better shooter and a much patter passer.
But Parker could get to the rim a little better.

But I gotta give the edge to the guy with the rings.

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WS regular season plus playoffs

244.2 Duncan
196.2 Robinson
127.2 Ginobili
124.0 Parker
117.2 Gervin
69.0 Leonard
60.3 Elliott
60.1 Silas
53.4 Johnson
41.5 Gilmore

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Interesting. That’s a pretty solid ranking I’d say.

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Per year:
Duncan 12.85
Robinson 14.01
Ginobili 7.95
Parker 7.29
Leonard 9.85

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TP & Manu pretty close. Who had a higher peak? Did one have a higher win-share year?

Tim
David
Manu/TP

With Manu and TP it is a matter of 3.a and 3.b I can understand arguments both side tbh I have no issue with a Manu 3.a and TP 3.b or the contrary really

On a side note I've watched a long interview of TP on a french radio podcast before he signed for Charlotte.

It was a very straight forward interview as always with TP and he repeated that his dream was to retire as a Spur and achieved the 20 years career with the Spurs. He was feeling good and wanted to pass the torch to Murray.

I'm sure he was heart broken to not have been able to find an agreement with Spurs... watching this vid after his signing with Charlotte is kinda sad...

Manu's nose is better than Teammate Wife Fucker, tbh.

I found the interview on youtube, it is dated back in May... it is in French

He speaks about his relation with Pop, he speaks about Curry (the best nba shooter ever according to him), he speaks about Tim and how special he is, he speaks how it was natural for him to let the starting job to Murray, he also speaks a couple of minutes about kobe..

TD
Robinson
Manu
Gervin
Parker
Bowen









HWSNBN
The centerpiece
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I found the interview on youtube, it is dated back in May... it is in French

He speaks about his relation with Pop, he speaks about Curry (the best nba shooter ever according to him), he speaks about Tim and how special he is, he speaks how it was natural for him to let the starting job to Murray, he also speaks a couple of minutes about kobe..

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He yaps about Kobe but not Manu? WTF?

1. TD
2. Admiral
3. Manu
4. Parker
5. Gervin

6. Sean E.
7. Bowen
8. AJ
9. LMA
10. LDN

662. Bonner
663. De Culo
664. Ayres
665. Joffrey
666. KaBitch

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1. TD
2. Admiral
3. Manu
4. Parker
5. Gervin

6. Sean E.
7. Bowen
8. AJ
9. LMA
10. LDN

662. Bonner
663. De Culo
664. Ayres
665. Joffrey
666. KaBitch

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We rang with Ayres, top 10 or gtfo.

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There really is not legit argument for Manu over TP in terms of overall contribution.

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Remember 10 years ago? The much heated Manu vs Tony fans debate. That was when both were young..

Now, Manu is potentially at his end and Parker has declined to an extent that he's no longer a top 4 player in this team.

IMO,

pre 2005

Tony>Manu

2004-2007

Manu> Tony

2008-2009

Tony> Manu

2009-2012

Manu > Tony

2013

Tony

2014-2015

Manu..

Damn, I am going to miss the Manu vs tony debates....srs :(

Clearly though, manu had a bigger impact on the championship years though.

So Manu>Tony

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This isn't very difficult

1. TD
2. Robinson
3. Manu
4. Gervin
5. Parker

Special mention to Bowen, E11iot, Gilmore, Silas, and Leonard

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Not talking about apa, since the nigga is trolling, but I honestly don't see how anyone can think Parker was a better player than Manu. It's obvious Manu made a bigger impact and I'm not just saying that because he is a fellow Mexican. If you had to pick a player that exemplified all-star selections and PPG not always telling the whole picture--Manu would be that player. Prime Manu was a special player. Prime Parker was really really good but I don't think he was in that same class.

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WS regular season plus playoffs

244.2 Duncan
196.2 Robinson
127.2 Ginobili
124.0 Parker
117.2 Gervin
69.0 Leonard
60.3 Elliott
60.1 Silas
53.4 Johnson
41.5 Gilmore

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Pretty much nails it. Manu was better per minute but Parker was more durable, so these numbers being really close doesn't surprise me at all.

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Pretty much nails it. Manu was better per minute but Parker was more durable, so these numbers being really close doesn't surprise me at all.

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yep, i think the only question is how much of Manu's lesser minutes was because of durability, vs because pop preferred to let manu quarterback the 2nd unit / get the most out of the turkoglu/finley/barry/green types... after all manu performed better as a starter, played big minutes outside of the spurs system, and tony likewise performed worse as a sub..
bottom line though, its not difficult to say who was better even if only slightly, 2005-2011 manu was the spurs closer, hell even in 14 - 18 manu was the closer for playoff games, the only year tony really had that responsibility was 2012, 2013.. tony not developing a 3pt shot lowered his ceiling

As basketball players, to me, it's clear that Manu is better. In terms of individual accomplishments with the Spurs, to me, it's also clear that Tony wins the argument.

Manu is more effective at 41 than tony at age 35. Ginobili was an underrated defender. You cant say the same about porker.

Manu probably has sacrificied more for the spurs than any other professional athlete. He never cared about his numbers. He cared about winning. Its hard for me to consider that a negative when comparing the two.

Im not saying tony is selfish, but he clearly has never been as selfless as manu.

Manu is the better player imo. The opinion of an unemployed troll will never sway my thought process