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No, he's not much like Boban at all.
He isn't much like Boban. Believe me. Aside from being a white Euro, at least.
Boban is a giant of a man, bigger than life. :wow Jakob is a paltry 7 feet tall. :wakeup
Op should get banned for this thread.... No one is the next boban
Not like a boban, but I don't discard human cigar thing.
There is only one Boban the Barbarian!
A more aggressive Tiago
Great comparison. Hopefully he can finish inside a bit more consistently. I always thought Splitter was kinda soft on the inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by BSfromTX
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Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
Dude was just a 9th pick two years ago, and has spent his time with a team that already has a crowded front-line (JV and Ibaka).
He was still able to be a key piece to one of the most productive bench units in the NBA last season.
He is moving into a great place developmentally, and considering the only other people competing for his minutes are Pau and Bertans, he should get ample opportunity.
Agree fully. He looks great, and given the chance, should, like most big men, finally be coming into top big man form, while still learning. Mobile, rebounds, drives, plays with his head up and confidence up. It's on Pop to make it happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Exactly. Plus Tim will work with him, too. Good potential there.Quote:
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I hope Gasol takes him under his wings. If we get a prime Gasol off Jacob, this would be a great trade, better than OG and Siakam tbh.
He is definitely not nor will be a prime Gasol. He seems like a pic n roll dump off specialist. Great hands and quick release inside. None of this matters unless he can start playing D without fouling though. If he can he can be a very good defender.
Then if he gains a mid range it will probably complete his skill set. He doesn't appear to have a ton of potential in the post with his back to the basket.
I'm psyched to see how Poetl develops. He seems to know how to set a pick. Duncan and Tiago were the last bigs we had that consistently set strong picks. That is an invaluable tool to have. There are very few players that actually can set a proper screen in today's game.
Poetl is an under the radar pickup for the Spurs. Lot of upside, especially if a motion offense and P&R are big parts of the game next season.
Nothing like the great Boban. A cross between Tiago and Jeff Foster.
Like I said when the Raptors rumors began in earnest (and I predicted he'd be part of the package, when seemingly no one was focusing on him), he's a younger, healthier, bigger, tougher version of Splitter.
:lmao At prime Gasol. If there was even the faintest possibility of this, he wouldn't have been included in the trade.
He's not competing with Bertans for minutes, because they're drastically different players and the latter can't play C. I wouldn't even say he's necessarily competing with Gasol for minutes, so much as he's competing with the reality of the '18 NBA, where playing 3 traditional bigs isn't practical.
Just start poodle
If tougher you mean more physical, it doesn't appear to be the case. Poelt'l doesn't appear to be a physical big at all but does most of his damage on quick dives, quick putbacks, and diving blocks. Splitter was a great traditional center, wide shoulders and hips, he was just too injury prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Good call on this guy though. I knew nothing about him but from what I'm seeing we basically got our lottery pick with 2 years of grooming under the bag. 1st round draft pick is the cherry on top.
Splitter was pretty much a P&R dum off specialist, and he ended up being a key piece to a championship. Poor guy was just made out of glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursDynasty85
If the Spurs could even turn Jakob into another Splitter, I would consider that a win.
You can definitely add that to one of Splitters skills but he loved contact (too bad he was not quite strong enough to be more effective) but he was arguably more effective at getting the early pass on the pic n roll for another pass to the 3 ball. (smart bball iq indeed). On defense he was a great well rounded defender too. Poelt'l on the other hand seems limited there unless he gets better footwork and bulkier. (Right now he is just a diving rim protector).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
They say he had small hands so he couldn't dunk much...Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyBuckets
If Gasol is off the floor, Aldridge pretty much becomes our center for all intents and purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
At that point, Pop is going to decide whether he wants another rim defender and rebounder, or shooting. There are simply certain teams where playing 2 bigs isn't going to work, and Aldridge will be eating a large chunk of playing time.
I bet dollar to donuts he is going to try Bertans in some of those instances. The guy leaned on Matt flicking Bonner as a center for half a decade. He has no problem pretending like Bertans is a 4, and if that continues, he will be competing for front court minutes.
He's definitely more physical or at least consistently so.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursDynasty85
Even in the most optimistic view: top 30 player, lottery pick who's retained value of selection, likely 1st (which could be combined with own 1st to possibly move into late lottery), the trade was a fail. I don't care so much about the pick being top 20 protected, because a lot would have to happen for the Raptors to not have a top 10 record and I understand they tried but couldn't pry Anunoby loose. Not pawning off Mills instead of Green, was inexplicable though.
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Aldridge is a C in this era and he's often been deployed as such as a Spur. He played 54% of his minutes at C 3 seasons ago and 62% last season.
He's a very good rim protector. He doesn't need a rim running C clogging his space, he needs a stretch PF so that he has room to work. Duncan-Splitter flourished at times, but that was a different era and they were both excellent passers.
:lmao Bonner never played C; Duncan did.
How can you consider the trade a fail considering all the Spurs had going against them?Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
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Originally Posted by TD 21
Aldridge is more of a C but he can play PF in a lot of line ups. Gasol and Aldridge are just a terrible combination. Poelt'l and Aldridge are not a bad combination at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Hope not. Boban sucks. People just loved him Bc he was huge, silly, and ugly af.
Gf is hot tho.
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty85
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Because despite the lack of leverage, they gave up a top 5 player and handed the Raptors a virtually ideal modern team (while further turning themselves into the antithesis), yet somehow also managed to lose all 3 of what should have been sticking points (Anunoby, Green instead of Mills, protected pick).
"A lot of line ups" is overstating it. Gasol is a better fit offensively, because he can shoot and he's a superior high post passer.
There is no denying that the Spurs lost the trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
IMO, that was bound to happen. It's not the Spurs fault that Kawhi fucked over any leverage they had.
Poetl will be huge indicator of how well they were able to mitigate an inevitable loss.
Bend over, I'll fucking show you the next Boban.Quote:
Originally Posted by K...
Splitter is massively underrated on this board. He set top notch screens, excelled on the PnR, excellent rim protector, superior passer, and was crafty around the basket. Losing him to health issues was a huge blow for the team.
It would be great if this kid could develop the position skills, BBIQ & guts (I almost jinxed him by saying H****) of Fabricio Oberto, but keep his athleticism.
Absolutely true, Splitter was great and his demise prevented any hope of a repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stabula
I don't see this guy being another Splitter.
Splitter was an MVP-type player in Europe.
If this guy is anything close to Splitter, that would be a huge win.
I don't see it yet, but he does seem to have some upside . . .
Of course losing the trade was inevitable. He's a top 5 player, who'd negatively impacted his value about as much as someone of that magnitude possibly could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
It wasn't about that. They just needed to win 1 of the 3 sticking points, specifically Green instead of Mills (fit and flexibility). Anunoby, I understand. Not only are 3 and D wings gold (to everyone but the Spurs, apparently), but he's their best prospect and no team involved was willing to give that up.
This all day. He was great when healthy and his passing skills mixed in with the Beautiful Game so well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stabula
Yeah, if there was one real back-breaker, it was giving up Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Yes, he didn't have the greatest season last year and isn't without some warts but...he was still an asset. Solid, starting caliber player on a decent contract.
The fact that we had to give up MORE to trade a potential MVP caliber player was completely unexpected. We were expecting to get a contract dump out of the deal, and instead we gave up a rotational player. That sucked.
Spurs brass values Mills much more than Green. Green has been terrible. Mills is the new culture guy probably will not be traded until his deal is an expiring or unless he has a preferred destination like Sixers.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
It is arguable that Spurs needed a big man versus a 3 and D wing SF anyway. Gasol is nearly unplayable and Aldridge isn't getting any younger either. This pick is protected anyway because Raptors will not fall below 20, 90% chance.
Is it a given Siakam or Anunoby will be better players than Poeltl? I don't think so.
Anyway, I do understand what you're saying though. These are just my counters and the fact Raptors had a ton of leverage. If Kawhi leaves (>80% chance imo) we easily won this trade.
This. Green has been horrible for years and has been rightly maligned on this board. His defensive production has been going down and his shot has been gone for years but now that he gets traded he's suddenly beloved and a key piece :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SpursDynasty85
The new Boban, a monkey clown oaf sitting at the end of the bench getting garbage minutes and providing a nutsack for stupid ass homer Spurs fans to suckle?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by OldMan88
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Originally Posted by DMC
Boban is irreplaceable, tbh.
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Originally Posted by monkeypunk
That was a hell of a beautiful game.....now i understand, there were lots of great passesr
Manu, Diaw, Duncan, Splitter, Parker, Mills
Since we are in the topic of centers today....
I just watched the documentary of Bill Russell being interviewed by Simmons
Wow, ! My respect for Russell is now off the charts.....truly the man was one of the greatest beings to have ever lived in this planet.....
Bill Russell was special...