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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
I'm sure he had some anodyne bureaucratic description for it just like Trump does. It's fair to point out the continuity between Obama and Trump. The immigration system was cruel and inhumane when Trump got there, it's unfortunate he's made a bad bureaucracy even worse..
Nothing gets done without the cooperation of the left so... why won't the left help with the crisis at the border instead of pretending nothing is going on?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
A Brief History of US Concentration Camps
concentration camp (noun):
a place in which large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities,
are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities,
sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.
– Oxford English Dictionary
What follows is an overview of US civilian concentration camps through the centuries.
Trail of Tears
a young Virginia governor named Thomas Jefferson embraced genocide and ethnic cleansing as solutions to what would later be called the “Indian problem.” In 1780 Jefferson wrote that “if we are to wage a campaign against these Indians, the end proposed should be their extermination, or their removal beyond the lakes of the Illinois River.”
Tens of thousands of Cherokee, Muscogee, Seminole, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Ponca, Winnebago and other indigenous peoples were forced from their homes at gunpoint and marched to prison camps in Alabama and Tennessee.
Thousands of men, women and children died of cold, hunger and illness in camps and during death marches, including the infamous Trail of Tears, of hundreds and sometimes even a thousand miles (1,600 km). This genocidal relocation was pursued, Jackson explained, as the “benevolent policy” of the US government, and because Native Americans “have neither the intelligence, the industry, the moral habits nor the desire of improvement”
The Long Walk
Minnesota governor Alexander Ramsey responded with yet another call for genocide and ethnic cleansing. “The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the borders of the state,” he declared in 1862, offering a bounty of $200 — over $5,000 in today’s money — for the scalp of each fleeing or resisting Indian. Around 1,700 Dakota women, children and elderly were force-marched into a concentration camp built on a sacred spiritual site.
Civil War general and notorious Indian killer James Henry Carleton forced 10,000 Navajo people to march 300 miles (480 km) in the dead of winter from their homeland in the Four Corners region to a concentration camp at Fort Sumner, New Mexico.
It is estimated that some 1,500 people died while interned at Fort Sumner, many of them infants and children.
Contraband
the Union Army was re-capturing freed slaves throughout the South and pressing them into hard labor in disease-ridden “contraband camps,” as escaped and freed slaves were considered captured enemy property. “There is much sickness, suffering and destitution,”
One camp near Natchez, Mississippi held as many as 4,000 black refugees in the summer of 1863; by fall 2,000 had already perished, most of them children infected with smallpox and measles.
‘Benevolent Assimilation’ in the ‘Suburbs of Hell’
When Filipinos resisted, US commanders responded with tremendous cruelty.
As General “Hell-Roaring” Jake Smith ordered his troops to “kill everyone over 10” in Samar, future president William Howard Taft, the US colonial administrator of the archipelago, instituted a “pacification” campaign that combined the counterinsurgency tactics of torture and summary execution with deportation and imprisonment in concentration camps, or reconcentrados, that one commandant referred to as the “suburbs of hell.”
“all consideration and regard for the inhabitants of this place cease from the day I become commander.”
In some camps, as many as 20 percent of internees died. In order to save food, 1,300 Batangas prisoners were forced to dig mass graves before being gunned down 20 at a time and buried in them.
“To keep them prisoners would necessitate the placing of [US] soldiers on short rations,” one soldier explained. “There was nothing to do but kill them.”
Concentration Camps for US Citizens
During both world wars, thousands of German nationals, German-Americans and Germans from Latin American nations were imprisoned in concentration camps across the United States.
Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, under which all people of Japanese ancestry living on the West Coast were rounded up and imprisoned in dozens of civilian assembly centers (where they were often forced to sleep in crowded, manure-covered horse stables), relocation centers, military bases, and “citizen isolation centers” — harsh desert prison camps where “problem inmates,” including those who refused to pledge allegiance to the United States, were jailed.
the Supreme Court sided with the government in three cases brought by Japanese-Americans challenging the constitutionality of their detention, and an American public caught in the grip of racist “yellow peril” hysteria acquiesced to the blatantly unconstitutional mass imprisonment.
In addition to Japanese and some Germans, a smaller number of Italians and Italian-Americans were also imprisoned during World War II.
Nearly 900 Aleuts were imprisoned in abandoned factories and other derelict facilities without plumbing, electricity or toilets; decent food, potable water and warm winter clothing were in short supply. Nearly 10 percent of the detainees died in the camps. Others were enslaved and forced to hunt fur seals.
Subversive Activities Control Act of 1950 over President Harry Truman’s veto, which led to the construction of
six concentration camps that were meant to hold communists, peace activists, civil rights leaders and others deemed a threat in the event the government declared a state of emergency
From Japan to Vietnam
In a little-known atrocity, at least 3,000 Okinawans died from malaria and other diseases in camps set up by US troops after they conquered the Japanese islands during fierce fighting in 1945. During and after the war, Okinawans’ land and homes were seized at gunpoint and their houses and farms were bulldozed or burned to the ground to make way for dozens of US military bases.
For sheer scale, no US concentration camp regime could match the Strategic Hamlet Program. In 1961 President John F. Kennedy approved
the forcible relocation, often at gunpoint, of 8.5 million South Vietnamese peasants into over 7,000 fortified camps surrounded by barbed wire, minefields and armed guards.
War on Terrorists and Migrants
most of the men and boys held at the Guantánamo Bay military prison were innocent but held for political reasons or in an attempt to glean a “mosaic” of intelligence. Innocent civilians were also held in military prisons, some of them secret, in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Many detainees were tortured and died in US custody.
despite the howling protestations of those who commit or justify the crime of tearing infants and children from their parents’ arms and imprisoning them in freezing cages that Trump officials have euphemistically compared to “summer camp,” there is no doubt that concentration camps are in operation on US soil once again.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06...tration-camps/
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
boutons_deux
A Brief History of US Concentration Camps
concentration camp (noun):
a place in which large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities,
are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities,
sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.
– Oxford English Dictionary
What follows is an overview of US civilian concentration camps through the centuries.
Trail of Tears
a young Virginia governor named Thomas Jefferson embraced genocide and ethnic cleansing as solutions to what would later be called the “Indian problem.” In 1780 Jefferson wrote that “if we are to wage a campaign against these Indians, the end proposed should be their extermination, or their removal beyond the lakes of the Illinois River.”
Tens of thousands of Cherokee, Muscogee, Seminole, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Ponca, Winnebago and other indigenous peoples were forced from their homes at gunpoint and marched to prison camps in Alabama and Tennessee.
Thousands of men, women and children died of cold, hunger and illness in camps and during death marches, including the infamous Trail of Tears, of hundreds and sometimes even a thousand miles (1,600 km). This genocidal relocation was pursued, Jackson explained, as the “benevolent policy” of the US government, and because Native Americans “have neither the intelligence, the industry, the moral habits nor the desire of improvement”
The Long Walk
Minnesota governor Alexander Ramsey responded with yet another call for genocide and ethnic cleansing. “The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the borders of the state,” he declared in 1862, offering a bounty of $200 — over $5,000 in today’s money — for the scalp of each fleeing or resisting Indian. Around 1,700 Dakota women, children and elderly were force-marched into a concentration camp built on a sacred spiritual site.
Civil War general and notorious Indian killer James Henry Carleton forced 10,000 Navajo people to march 300 miles (480 km) in the dead of winter from their homeland in the Four Corners region to a concentration camp at Fort Sumner, New Mexico.
It is estimated that some 1,500 people died while interned at Fort Sumner, many of them infants and children.
Contraband
the Union Army was re-capturing freed slaves throughout the South and pressing them into hard labor in disease-ridden “contraband camps,” as escaped and freed slaves were considered captured enemy property. “There is much sickness, suffering and destitution,”
One camp near Natchez, Mississippi held as many as 4,000 black refugees in the summer of 1863; by fall 2,000 had already perished, most of them children infected with smallpox and measles.
‘Benevolent Assimilation’ in the ‘Suburbs of Hell’
When Filipinos resisted, US commanders responded with tremendous cruelty.
As General “Hell-Roaring” Jake Smith ordered his troops to “kill everyone over 10” in Samar, future president William Howard Taft, the US colonial administrator of the archipelago, instituted a “pacification” campaign that combined the counterinsurgency tactics of torture and summary execution with deportation and imprisonment in concentration camps, or reconcentrados, that one commandant referred to as the “suburbs of hell.”
“all consideration and regard for the inhabitants of this place cease from the day I become commander.”
In some camps, as many as 20 percent of internees died. In order to save food, 1,300 Batangas prisoners were forced to dig mass graves before being gunned down 20 at a time and buried in them.
“To keep them prisoners would necessitate the placing of [US] soldiers on short rations,” one soldier explained. “There was nothing to do but kill them.”
Concentration Camps for US Citizens
During both world wars, thousands of German nationals, German-Americans and Germans from Latin American nations were imprisoned in concentration camps across the United States.
Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, under which all people of Japanese ancestry living on the West Coast were rounded up and imprisoned in dozens of civilian assembly centers (where they were often forced to sleep in crowded, manure-covered horse stables), relocation centers, military bases, and “citizen isolation centers” — harsh desert prison camps where “problem inmates,” including those who refused to pledge allegiance to the United States, were jailed.
the Supreme Court sided with the government in three cases brought by Japanese-Americans challenging the constitutionality of their detention, and an American public caught in the grip of racist “yellow peril” hysteria acquiesced to the blatantly unconstitutional mass imprisonment.
In addition to Japanese and some Germans, a smaller number of Italians and Italian-Americans were also imprisoned during World War II.
Nearly 900 Aleuts were imprisoned in abandoned factories and other derelict facilities without plumbing, electricity or toilets; decent food, potable water and warm winter clothing were in short supply. Nearly 10 percent of the detainees died in the camps. Others were enslaved and forced to hunt fur seals.
Subversive Activities Control Act of 1950 over President Harry Truman’s veto, which led to the construction of
six concentration camps that were meant to hold communists, peace activists, civil rights leaders and others deemed a threat in the event the government declared a state of emergency
From Japan to Vietnam
In a little-known atrocity, at least 3,000 Okinawans died from malaria and other diseases in camps set up by US troops after they conquered the Japanese islands during fierce fighting in 1945. During and after the war, Okinawans’ land and homes were seized at gunpoint and their houses and farms were bulldozed or burned to the ground to make way for dozens of US military bases.
For sheer scale, no US concentration camp regime could match the Strategic Hamlet Program. In 1961 President John F. Kennedy approved
the forcible relocation, often at gunpoint, of 8.5 million South Vietnamese peasants into over 7,000 fortified camps surrounded by barbed wire, minefields and armed guards.
War on Terrorists and Migrants
most of the men and boys held at the Guantánamo Bay military prison were innocent but held for political reasons or in an attempt to glean a “mosaic” of intelligence. Innocent civilians were also held in military prisons, some of them secret, in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Many detainees were tortured and died in US custody.
despite the howling protestations of those who commit or justify the crime of tearing infants and children from their parents’ arms and imprisoning them in freezing cages that Trump officials have euphemistically compared to “summer camp,” there is no doubt that concentration camps are in operation on US soil once again.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06...tration-camps/
answer this question... would these "camps" exist if these people tried to make their own damn countries great again? fuck out of here you cry baby bitch!
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
koriwhat
Nothing gets done without the cooperation of the left so... why won't the left help with the crisis at the border instead of pretending nothing is going on?
How is the left supposed to help?
The last time they tried in 2013, the House of Reps deep sixed the Comprehensive Bipartisan Roadmap. Passed in the Senate 68-32.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-...-bill/744/text
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
Chris
She's right.
This Daniels guy has been linked with a far right group.
Reading material of Daniels:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-p...roversial-jew/
Also Steve King. :lol
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
Chris
AOC didn't compare our concentration camps to the Auschwitz or the Shoah, she merely identified them using a historically accurate term.
The US had concentration camps before the Holocaust, it had them afterward, and it has them now.
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lol alt-lite Chris cynically propping himself up on dead Jews to own the libs
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"AOC didn't compare our concentration camps to the Auschwitz or the Shoah"
Breitbart abusing its fans by exploiting their confusion, ignorance, stupidity to inflame them, piss them off, drive them deeper into ignorance.
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
Let them get their asylum papers, finger print them, mug shots, give them a hearing date, and let them go.
90%+ show up for their hearing dates, indicating good faith asylum seekers.
If Trash/Miller/CBP is going to detain them in concentration camps, then treat them like human beings.
Trash should have figured out that subcontracting to private concentration mgt companies pays him back in campaign contributions.
House Dems have him, IIRC, a couple $B for border stuff, but not for any fucking wall.
St Ronnie and his Repugs sold arms to finance Contras, can't Trash's people figure that out?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
The question isn't where... I'm sure we can scrape off some of the top of the military budget to afford some soap.
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A large portion of the kids have relatives and other willing sponsors here already. Similar is likely true for many adults.
Release them to sponsors and slap an ankle monitor on, if you have to.
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
Spurminator
The question isn't where... I'm sure we can scrape off some of the top of the military budget to afford some soap.
Trash tried that to build his wall, the courts stopped him. Only Congress can allocate/appropriate, but Dems already did, a couple $B, but where is it?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
Jade Helm FEMA camps are just sitting there....
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
Meh I don't mind them. Put they asses to work.
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
With 100,000+ crashing our borders every month, where exactly are we supposed to put them while they are processed?
THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION
LOL CC.
His mind apparently comes to a full stop at whatever solution DJT proposes.
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
anybody know the change to US asylum law that Trash wants the Dems to agree to?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
ben shapiro values one line zingers over the substantive point
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
ben shapiro values one line zingers over the substantive point
That's what, 90% of your posts here?
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Re: Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air