Spurs Draft Discussion: 2019 NBA Draft

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Murray was going to be gone, White was going to be gone by some mocks, Walker was going to be gone. Who knows. After the first 4-5 picks this is one of the most unpredictable drafts in years.

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The Dejounte Murray draft was definitely the most random draft I can think of. We'll see though.

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Originally Posted by cd021

The Dejounte Murray draft was definitely the most random draft I can think of. We'll see though.

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The Murray draft was loaded with starter talent. This draft has more role player talent with land mines scattered throughout

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Originally Posted by ZeusWillJudge

I've never been a fan of Bitadze. Samanic, even before the combine.

I'm so tired at looking at all the changing mocks. And after about the first 4 players, they all have warts and/or risks. This is what I've sort of come down to, and unless something crazy happens it's the best I see for the Spurs of the players that are likely to be around at each pick.

19: Rui Hachimura (if available)
Cam Johnson

29: Chuma Okeke (if available)
Luka Samanic
Matisse Thybulle

49: Cody Martin
Jalen Lecque

Lecque is one of the big risk/reward players in this draft. He could be a bust, but he could also be a star. It looks like a good investment at 49.

I liked Okeke before the injury, and I can't quit liking him now. I think he'll put his year of rehab to good use, and wouldn't need the whole next season in Austin. The 29 pick would be a bargain for him, offset a little by a year of investment.

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At 49 I want C Jessie Govan Georgetown.....I think he would compliment our current roster well on both ends of the court. If Thybulle is truly an elite defender, take him at 29......at 19 get the best available prospect on the board.

One guy who did well at the combine and look on the rise is Nicolas Claxton. He had pretty good athletic results and he had a workout with the spurs per Jabari Parker.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

At #4? What ARE you smoking?

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I’d be ecstatic if the Lakers took him at four, because it’s a significant overdraft and would mean another player dropping further.

Plenty of guys who could be decent contributors will be available at 19, and 29 allows them to move up if they want to, or if someone else is clamoring for a guy at 29, trade it for a future lottery protected first.

I would not mind Spurs moving 29 pick to some team for their first round next year.

Trade DeRozan to the Lakers for Ingram and a future 1. Ingram might be available with his blood clot issue.

19- Cameron Johnson SG/SG 6'8"- he could be a Klay Thompson type 2 guard that could also play the 3. Incredible shooter.
https://youtu.be/l_6YKHQoNWU

29- Isaiah Roby SF 6'8" - big strong wing player. Developing offensive game. Long wingspan at 7'2". Good athlete. Would compliment Ingram well.
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

49- Neemius Queta C 7'- a long (7'4" wingspan) athletic center. Great defender and garbage scoring offensive guy. Cleans the boards and lob guy on offense.
https://youtu.be/S2zVzpQT2fM

PG- White, Murray, Forbes
SG- Walker, Johnson, Bellineli
SF- Ingram, Roby, Moore
PF- Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, Metu
C - Poeltl, Queta, Eubanks

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Originally Posted by palangi

Trade DeRozan to the Lakers for Ingram and a future 1. Ingram might be available with his blood clot issue.

19- Cameron Johnson SG/SG 6'8"- he could be a Klay Thompson type 2 guard that could also play the 3. Incredible shooter.
https://youtu.be/l_6YKHQoNWU

29- Isaiah Roby SF 6'8" - big strong wing player. Developing offensive game. Long wingspan at 7'2". Good athlete. Would compliment Ingram well.
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

49- Neemius Queta C 7'- a long (7'4" wingspan) athletic center. Great defender and garbage scoring offensive guy. Cleans the boards and lob guy on offense.
https://youtu.be/S2zVzpQT2fM

PG- White, Murray, Forbes
SG- Walker, Johnson, Bellineli
SF- Ingram, Roby, Moore
PF- Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, Metu
C - Poeltl, Queta, Eubanks

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Not a chance Queta stays in if he's not projected in the first round (and likely gets a late promise...).

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Originally Posted by pad300

Not a chance Queta stays in if he's not projected in the first round (and likely gets a late promise...).

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Well as of now he's in and a second round guy. But thank you

Yeah I mentioned him and Okeke in my top 5 awhile back he is a project but does have potential.

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Originally Posted by palangi

Well as of now he's in and a second round guy. But thank you

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There’s no point in pulling out of the draft early. There’s a chance that before the withdrawal deadline, some team may make him a first round promise. It’s best to wait to til the last minute to withdraw. That’s all that Pad was saying, that if he doesn’t get that promise, he’ll go back to school.

New overall Big board for realistic options at our draft positions:

1st tier
1. Isaiah Roby (highest potential of all the picks)
2. Luka Samonic (dude actually plays great defense and has balls to his game)
3. Grant Williams (total culture fit, elite post game, does need to improve perimeter D)
4. PJ Washington (safest pick Spurs can make. Will play right away if drafted)

2nd tier
5. KZ Okpala ( faster Kyle Anderson with better footwork. But probably lower bball IQ and will need to learn how to play within a team)
6. Rui Hachimura ( can come in as a David West type player. If youre expecting Kawhi, youll be disappointed)
7. Matisse Thybulle (would like to see his defense on this team)
8. Jontay Porter (elite shooter, elite passer, but a lot of injury concerns)

3rd tier
9. Nassir Little (too small, lacks skills)
10. Louis King (good player but probably has low bball iq)
11. Eric Paschall (Quincy Pondexter clone? Or a Jamal Crawford clone? Maybe somewhere in the middle)

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Originally Posted by exstatic

There’s no point in pulling out of the draft early. There’s a chance that before the withdrawal deadline, some team may make him a first round promise. It’s best to wait to til the last minute to withdraw. That’s all that Pad was saying, that if he doesn’t get that promise, he’ll go back to school.

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Thank you. I knew what he said. I was explaining why I put him in still. But thank you

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: Heard Rui got a commitment in the lottery (Minnesota was the buzz at the Combine) — usually when you take a commitment you shut down workouts and meetings with teams.

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I hope the Spurs draft well

Latest mock has us taking PF Mfiondo Kagengele at 19 and SF KZ at 29.

note: big man Queta moving up to 30

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Originally Posted by BackHome

Latest mock has us taking PF Mfiondo Kagengele at 19 and SF KZ at 29.

note: big man Queta moving up to 30

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Which mock?

CBS nba they just did another update and have us taking Keldon Johnson SG at 19 and Kangle at 29

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

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Originally Posted by cd021

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

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Works for me. If they want Mills instead, I'd happily give him up instead... Not so confident Sixers are interested though.

Why not include our 2nd as well?

Luka, Grant, Isaiah Roby would be a perfect draft for me.

PG: Dejounte/ White
SG: DeMar/ Lonnie
SF: Gay/ Roby/ Grant Williams
PF: Aldridge/ Semanic/ Moore
C: Poetl/ Metu/ Eubanks

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Originally Posted by pad300

Works for me. If they want Mills instead, I'd happily give him up instead... Not so confident Sixers are interested though.

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Mills makes too much for too long tbh. Beli has $5.8 for next year while Mills has two years remaining for more than twice that. If they re-sign both Harris, Butler, along with Embiid and Simmons.

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Originally Posted by cd021

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

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So a couple of things. I would love that trade for SA, getting rid of Beli and getting an asset would be big and early 2nd picks have solid value.

However, Beli’s money being gone doesn’t functionally change much so that is not an incentive for SA. It would clear up a logjam though so that is a benefit. But it’s an important point to make.

For PHI, they had Beli at that price and let him go. I don’t know that anything has changed where they would want him back.

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Originally Posted by BackHome

CBS nba they just did another update and have us taking Keldon Johnson SG at 19 and Kangle at 29

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He's not the worst option at 19. I personally believe we should draft best player available regardless of position then pick up Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in free agency (I believe he's a player with untapped potential with a bad organization) to fill the hole at SF.

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Originally Posted by Trueblood

He's not the worst option at 19. I personally believe we should draft best player available regardless of position then pick up Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in free agency (I believe he's a player with untapped potential with a bad organization) to fill the hole at SF.

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The thing is, this will be MKGs third contract. He’s making $13M now, and probably will want something close to that. Do you really want to sink That kind of cap into a third contract development project?