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Woooo . Combo gunna be raw
Amazing
Mark Cuban ain’t playin
I dont trust his health called it ..before it happened.
But if he can stay healthy Love that kind of help for Luka ....
And I think Luka wil be >>> Porzy
Same old Knicks. People are hyping up the cap space they have now, but who's seriously going to sign there when they have nothing to offer?
Knicks really want them lottery balls for Zion.
This will hurt their tank if anything. They’re trading an injured player for what is likely a few half decent players such as DeAndre Jordan and DSJ. Not sure what the idea is here. Unless they have some info about FA’s coming this summer, I really don’t know what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Pelican
True. If they lose out on Zion to the Suns, it would be so Knick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broly
Why dump Porzingis? Isnt he on his rookie contract?
Cleared both Hardaway’s and Lee’s contracts off the books. Likely a play to get as many as three max players over the summer, e.g. Kyrie, Butler, and Davis. Not saying they will or can. But that’s probably the plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isitjustme?
Porzingis wanted to be traded apparently. They're dumping Hardaway. If KP can get back good and stay healthy it's a great trade, if not, well...
:wakeup
Oh yeah, didn't see, Lee is getting 12 mil this season...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fall
Damn looks like that Dust Chip 2.0 with Trashews really putting in work for Dallas.
Unless they get the #1 pick what assets would they have to make a move for Davis? They must really think they can get Durant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fall
Also the trade gives them room for a 35% max player and a 30% max player once you factor in their committed salaries, cap holds, and the rookie contract they'll be paying for their first round pick.
EDIT: Actually, more like room for two 30% max players, as I forgot to factor in Smith's guaranteed money.
And just like that. Dallas mavs officially Americas favourite team.
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Originally Posted by Pero
Not much of a gamble IMO. They traded Dennis Smith for a possible franchise big. If Porzingod never gets healthy again oh well, they just dumped a guy they didn't want and whose trade value was dropping like a rock anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pero
Mavs gonna have to pay a max contract to find out ...Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Can Dallas get Gordon Hayward?
Wow. I am speechless.
He's taking the QO apparently, which in a way is good but also kinda worrying tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
daaaaayum
Not like they were going to sign anyone better with their capspace. Dallas has only landed lower tier crap at high end prices lately with guys like Matthews and Parsons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
NYK has been rebuilding for 20 years
The growing European talent pool isn't so enamored with living & playing in New York
If he's not coming back this season, possibly. He'll be a restricted free agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
Porzingis is extremely overrated and is now injury prone, great move by the Knicks to take a shot at Durant + Kyrie/whoever..
Don't mind the move for Dallas, they aren't going to attract any key FAs, might as well take a shot with potential..
Damn I called DSJ being gone but I didn't think they could get Porzingod for him ��
i cant see this as anything besides a big win for dallas
True. :lol Although I wonder if players will find Dallas more attractive with Doncic there.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I see what you're doing here and I like it. The league would love to make fun of a team starting all white folks. Watch for Kleber to be a starting big too...find out a way to get Dirk on the floor at the same time and you have an almost all foreign white lineup, lolzQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Porzingis looks like the next Drew Gooden. Probably will be on a handful of teams before the end of his career.
huh? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris
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Originally Posted by drew8117
Let me hand pick my team of Slavic & Baltic players and Ill win the Finals. Don't even need Americans
Both high picks. Both are black holes that don't play defense. My gut tells me the Mavs got the shit end of the stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
On second thought Porzingis is a decent help defense rim protector, but will get lost on the pick and rolls.
The guy with the weird patch on the back on his head who was a 4th overall pick, and maybe the only premium draft pick in NBA history to be so bad that he was traded halfway through his rookie year :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
What's Bogdonovic looking like.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostKing
You realize there's more than 2 player on the court...an at les 2 of the others will be Kleber and Finney-Smith who are great defensively. Plus both those stars will get better defensively. Just like Dirk did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Glad it wasn't to the Spurs tbh
Dallas doesn't really lose anything they wanted to keep anyway, so it makes sense for them. Steph Curry was "always injured" early on, so they're hoping Porzingis can evolve into a guy that actually plays... The gamble makes sense for them.
The Knicks were terrible and had nothing to lose, but I still don't get why a Durant, Kyrie, or Butler would want to start over with a franchise that has been famously mismanaged for so long and is now tanking/rebuilding after five terrible years in a row.
When did Dirk get better on defense?Quote:
Originally Posted by drew8117
HE got stronger and smarter and had better team mates which helped but he was trash on defense.
True. Everyone forgets how much of a china doll Curry looked like in his first few years. I remember people here scoffing the Warriors for paying him $12 million a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
theres definitely more of a concern when a big guy has knee issues than when a guard has ankle issues, thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Still a great gamble by Cubes that sunova bitch
If he healthy its a steal of not all they lost was Dsjr
Dirk has never been a good defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by drew8117
Beat me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
mavs upgrading from dampier to chandler when picking up great defenders like marion/kidd is what made their D formidable, not dirk just randomly becoming better :lol
Harlem is 100% correct even healthy dude was overratedQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
But even if he is 90% of what he was before the knee that is a good #2 for Luka
Bottom line Cubes went all in on Luka and dumped Dsjr, Matthews and empty stats Jordan even if they have to overpay KP still a win hopefully he don't stay injured or diminished like Parsons or Matthews.
Irony of it all they punted on Nash to early because they worried about his back but paid top dollar for damaged goods ever since, smh
It's a calculated risk for Dallas that I think makes sense. Will Porzingis do what Embiid has done, and turn into a healthy player? Who knows. But the guy is still younger than Derrick White and Bryn Forbes, and again-- Dallas didn't give up anything they wanted anyway.
And why would Kyrie and especially Durbeta even consider a dysfunctional Dolan-owned team that now has no talent?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
who said their defense became formidable because dirk randomly became better on defense? all that was said was he improved on defense. no one even said he became a good or average defender. simply that he improved. he could have meant that he improved from being one of the worst defenders in the league, to simply below average, which would be pretty accurate to anyone who actually paid any attention to the mavsQuote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
They have a legit shot at Zion and despite not having much success in Free Agency, it's still NY..Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Porzingis is damaged goods, this gave them an opportunity to dump that terrible Hardaway contract..not to mention all the reports that Porzingis didn't even want to be there anymore..
Apparently the Knicks got 2 future 1st round picks, too..
The Knicks are so bad that almost any move "makes sense" for them, but I still don't get why a star like Durant would want to go there and start over with Dolan as his boss.
ehrm.. porzingis is probably going to be a constant in the dpoy shortlist..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
since when irving cares about anything basketball related?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Spurs fans after reports of Kristaps wanting out “OMG HELL YES, SPURS ARE IN THE MIX!”
Spurs fans after Mavs get him “Dude’s overrated :td”
It’s exciting but not the game changing trade the national media is acting like it is. Porzingod still has to prove he can do more than put up empty stats on a bad team. But it potentially vaults Dallas into contender status next year.
Great trade for Dallas, but Porzingis is very injury prone and was a bit overrated to begin with.
Man the Knicks are horribly managed.
He is overrated, tbf. Although for what they gave up (unless they hgave up the farm in picks) it's a no brainer trade for Dallass. Still a long ways from contender though, imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Not with those fucked up knees he isn't. He's in the West now and will get exposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Durbeta is a frontrunner looking for the easiest road. He's not going to leave the Warriors to play with a rookie.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
It comes down to if another star like Kyrie is wiling to team up with him to go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
http://i66.tinypic.com/29s7r7.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Contender status is probably too strong. Playoff status is more accurate. 5 or 6 seed imo. IF Porzingis stays healthy and lives up to the hype.
Agreed. Depends a lot on what we do this summer as well. It would be amazing if we could ship Barnes before the deadline tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
I would take Barnes in SA, tbh.
Good piece for Dallas. Now they just need 3-4 more all stars to match GS.
BTW who is better in 3 years, Davis Bertans or Porzi :stirpot:
:lmao you want that bum yet you see nothing special in luka :lmao :lmao :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
im still a big believer in the unicorn tbh... i think there's a good amount of sour grapes ITT
I'd take Donutcic too but I'm pretty sure he's untouchable, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo.
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Originally Posted by FkLA
Dallas :wow
yeah but a lot of that was post-2011 when Cubes was trying to make the team as competitive as possible (overpaying for B- type talent instead of rebuilding) in return for Dirk's loyalty/championship run. This move isn't anything like those others, considering KP has an entire career potentially ahead of himQuote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
Great trade for Dallas. You get a whole season worth of time to see if you landed a home run before committing big money. If not, you still have Luka to build around.
Damn lefty with the jinx attempt :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lefty
the "if not" scenario is pretty terrible. they took on a horrible contract, one of their only young pieces, and 2 first round picks tbh. that makes it absurdly difficult to build around luka anytime soonQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Cuban hopes prozingis could become the next nowitzki
The Knicks finally got Jordan
Tbh if NY can get 2 big name free agents and if Porzingis is still affected by his injury :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 140
Holy fuck Dallas robbed them blind
Hope this is a good trade for the Knicks..and they get Durant on summer
If Luka becomes the player he's projected to be they should be able to build around him on free agency. Players would find interesting to join him.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
You can always buy out or trade the bad contracts.
Porzingis and Doncic might be the best white duo in league history, eh?
Porzingod is just what Dallas needed. Congrats to Dallas fans, good acquisition.
Bird McHaleQuote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
Manu and BonnerQuote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
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Luka and Porzingas: A 2020's hipster millennial version of Dirk and Nash.
I'm not buying that one, unfortunately. Dullass never landed any big fish through free agency during Dirk's entire career, so I don't see why it would change now. Especially with this trend of all these superstars holding out to play in NY or LA. Which is why I think this is the best move they could possibly make...taking a chance on a guy who's injured but has legitimate superstar potentialQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Hmmm... THJ, Noah. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
Probably true, just like in 2010 when they struck out on LeBron/Wade and settled for damaged goods Amare and a desperation move for Melo.
And then the NY media rips him to shreds like they did Ewing :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by skin27
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
You're so giddy you don't know wtf you're sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Texas roadtrip about to be guaranteed 0-3 for 20 other teams in 2019-20. Who would've thought two seasons away from a WCF finish, the Rox are about to become the weakest Texan team with CP0's body steadily declining.
I knew Magic was a Havlicek fan
This is a very risky move by Mavs. Porzingis looks injury prone and they give up all those picks. They could look like geniuses in couple years or like complete idiots.