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Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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The Spurs traveled to Denver to take on the Nuggets and got clobbered, 113-85. Really, what we witnessed tonight wasn't an unexpected result. At this point, no one could have honestly expected San Antonio to get a win on the second night of a back-to-back after they had to go all out to beat the lowly Hawks. On top of that, the Nuggets boast the second best home record in the NBA, while the Spurs are saddled with far and away the worst road record of any Western Conference playoff team.
The Spurs, 45-34, have three games left in the season: road games in Washington and Cleveland and season finale at home versus Dallas. As it stands, they're the eighth seed in the West. To move up to the seventh seed and avoid another postseason defeat at the hands of the Warriors, San Antonio needs to win all three contests. That's what it comes down to; beat three lottery teams or pay the price.
It's possible that San Antonio could remain eighth even if they win out but I think chances are in their favor that either the Thunder lose one of their final four games (DET, @MIN, HOU, @MIL) or the Clippers lose two of their final three games (LAL, @GS, UTA).
-Tonight's game against the Nuggets basically ended 63 seconds in when Pop got ejected. Any hopes of a miracle win went out the window when he shuffled to the locker room. No offense to Ettore Messina but I have zero confidence in his ability to coach this current team to a victory, especially out on the road against a quality team. Pop has had to use a fluid rotation to coax wins out the roster and I don't see Messina having that touch.
-I'm also not a fan of Messina's playcalling. His plays are just ... odd. (I find it truly weird that the plays Messina calls are plays Pop never calls.) For example, when the Spurs need a basket, Pop will call a post-up for Aldridge or DeRozan, an isolation for DeRozan or Gay, or a pick-and-roll with White. When Messina calls a play, it's almost always some sort of misdirection, usually for a shooter. To make matters even more strange, Messina likes adding convoluted aspects to his playcalls. For example, tonight he tried to deceive the Nuggets by passing the ball to Bertans and Forbes in the low block. Both times, Denver sniffed out the obvious forthcoming misdirection and smothered the shooters. Maybe such plays work in a lower level of basketball but it's simply not going to work in the NBA.
-As far as the players were concerned, it was difficult to get a read on the starters tonight. That said, DeMar DeRozan set a terrible tone when he didn't attempt a shot and only had one assist in the first quarter. The Spurs aren't going to win many road games if DeRozan comes out of the gates sleepwalking. LaMarcus Aldridge came out with more energy than DeRozan did but he wasn't especially productive either.
-Bryn Forbes continued his confident play. Derrick White didn't build upon his strong outing against the Hawks. Instead, his defense was sub par and he didn't look interested in doing much on offense other than miss shots. Jakob Poeltl was back in the starting lineup and helped out with his offensive rebounding and his activity on defense ... but he was inexplicably clumsy on both ends.
-Off the bench, Rudy Gay grew frustrated by missing open shot after open shot. Marco Belinelli couldn't have played much worse. Patty Mills tried harder than he we've seen in recent games but he didn't play well. Davis Bertans' three-point marksmanship is AWOL. After hitting just 34.7% of his three-pointers in March, he's 0-for-6 in April.
-Tonight's bright spot? The play of Lonnie Walker IV. Following a tepid outing against the Hawks, the rookie was much more aggressive against the Nuggets. What we saw was pretty exciting.
Whether it was slick ball-handling and elegant body control off the dribble:
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Or his improved, compact stroke, both off the catch and off the dribble:
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And then there was this play when Walker got fouled while showing off his athleticism:
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-It's been obvious since preseason that Walker has a high ceiling. If he can stay healthy, learn to harness his physical tools and continue putting in work to learn the mental part of the game, the kid has a chance be good. In a sea of disappointment tonight, it was fun to see a glimpse of his potential.
-Going forward, what's the number one key to the Spurs getting back on track? After some reflection, I believe it's White's play. Yes, DeRozan and Aldridge have been uneven as of late and the Spurs need those two to rediscover their rhythm. Gay, too, needs to get rolling. But, as crazy as it sounds, how White plays matters most. If he can regain form, San Antonio should win out and then have a legit chance to move past the first round of the playoffs. White at his best gives the Spurs their one game-changing perimeter defender, their best playmaker, their best passer and someone who can make smart plays down the stretch of close games. If White plays like he has as of late outside of the contest versus Atlanta (the Rookie Wall version, if you will), it'll be really difficult to even avoid the eighth seed and the postseason run would essentially be over before it even begins.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Always appreciated. I missed more of the game than Pop did.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks for the Lonnie clips. Haven't really been paying attention even when the Spurs games are on these days bc they're playing like shit, but good thing to see the kid having fun post injury and showing out.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks Timvp.
I just hope we can win out and avoid GSW. I don’t think the Spurs get past the first round unless they’re sand-bagging right now, but what I really don’t want is another 1st round series against GSW.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Ed Helicopter Jones
Thanks Timvp.
I just hope we can win out and avoid GSW. I don’t think the Spurs get past the first round unless they’re sand-bagging right now, but what I really don’t want is another 1st round series against GSW.
This, including the thanks, are how I'm feeling. The idea of playing GSW again in the first round is not a good feeling.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Really hope Lonnie’s health and feel for the game especially defensively catch up to his natural gifts within a couple of years. Some of the things he can do - dribbling and getting to his spots, shooting touch, athleticism - show a very high ceiling. There aren’t an awful lot of players able to do all of these things consistently.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks for the thoughts.
I wanted to see more of Walker tonight after his playing time yesterday. I figured he would only get playing time because of a blowout. I didn't want it to be because of the Nuggets blowing out the Spurs. Oh well. He looked good. He looked more relaxed than other times.
Props to Forbes showing up again. Wish the others would follow his example.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Forbes and Mills getting roasted on defense is exhausting to watch
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
As it's a random thought I'll put it in this thread but after having all season to watch Poeltl I'm not too enthralled with him. Yes he does contest better than Pau was and is a factor on the offensive glass, I just don't think he is a consistent or strong enough roll man at making himself available.
I think Milutinov is better, tougher for sure with better hands. He's a mean hombre compared to Poeltl. I hope he's brought over next season.
And as strange as that may sound to have yet another center, one thing I have not liked at all this season is the minutes Aldridge logs. It's too many. Over 35 after the All-Star break, over 36 in March, and before Denver over 38 in April.
He's going to be 34 next year. Cut his weight down and cut his minutes down, time for some Duncan approach
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Sure, this loss was expected.
But what wasn't expected is a complete lack of effort. The whole team looked disinterested. People try more in a pickup game. Sloppy turnovers, lazy passes, leaving open men on D. You can say about Westbrook whatever you want, and I hate his game myself, but he always tries.
That's why I'm sure we are getting GS and sadly -- deservedly so.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Tend to agree, No White, no Spurs. Scary how a rookie carried an entire team with 2 "All Stars". Even Scarier to think where this team would rank right now had White not emerged this season. Makes one wonder what constitutes and "All Star" in NBA terms. Mental toughness ,ball IQ and team leadership don't seem to be high on the pecking order.
BB IQ/LEADERSHIP > INDIVIDUAL SKILL
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Good thoughts. Although I think you are too harsh on Messina playcalling. Unless you want more iso, which clearly is not working lately. So many shots were wide open, what more can you ask to a set?
If you shoot 5-27 from 3 and 18-25 FT, it is all on the players: they sleepwalk into a paycheck, that's it. I believe I know the reason, but whatever it is, the result is nobody plays hard.
(I understand the Becky for HC campaign is in full swing, but let's not exagerate...)
You are right on the substitution flow from Messina, it can be better. Still, when nobody plays to win, they hardly matter.
The game ended in the second quarter, when White in SA court weakly handed the ball to DDR who even more weakly just touched it and let the defender go at it (defender couldn't believe the gift). To me that was enough to foresee the game outcome. Right there was a Messina mistake, he should have benched both DDR and White on the spot. He did't want to exacerbate a bad mood, obviously, but that would have been the right move.
Besides the usual "memorable" game by DDR, I am very concerned by Bertans contribution, the guy is totally frustrated and can't make a shot. Not good.
I'd rather play the Warriors than Denver, anyway. At least then I can root for the Nuggets to beat first OKC and then the Coquettes.
At this point, I hope PATFO blows it up this summer.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
my man Walker needs to play 20 mpg in these final games, the guy is simply a better basketball player than the pet dwarves of Pop, star potential
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Originally Posted by
vavvi
Sure, this loss was expected.
But what wasn't expected is a complete lack of effort. The whole team looked disinterested. People try more in a pickup game. Sloppy turnovers, lazy passes, leaving open men on D. You can say about Westbrook whatever you want, and I hate his game myself, but he always tries.
That's why I'm sure we are getting GS and sadly -- deservedly so.
If the last few games play out as hoped and we finish as 7th, this kind of loss is exactly what we need, since Denver can't take much Information from this game.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Next 3 games will really prove what kind of mettle the Spurs have. Yea we play lottery tanking teams, but I we lose to one of them then our season is over. There's a chance against Denver. Say what you want, but I believe we can still beat them
Also damn injuries man. I know everyone played like shit and Messina was looking for anyone to actually care and that's why Lonnie played so many minutes BUT the kid is looking more confident in his abilities. His injury really set him back as far as development goes. I'm excited next year though because I think he's going to have the kind of practices that force Pop to play him in the rotation. We may still suck next year but we will be fast paced and athletic bc of the combo o DJ, White, and Lonnie
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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pookenstein
If the last few games play out as hoped and we finish as 7th, this kind of loss is exactly what we need, since Denver can't take much Information from this game.
What information do they need? :rolleyes
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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pookenstein
If the last few games play out as hoped and we finish as 7th, this kind of loss is exactly what we need, since Denver can't take much Information from this game.
But that's a big if.
With this kind of effort we aren't winning against anybody
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Walker's scoring looked good, but it was against garbage-time scrubz.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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monty4329
What information do they need? :rolleyes
Had it been a hard fought game down to the wire, Denver would have had extra Information how the Spurs Players might (re)act in certain situations. I'm not saying this could be a series deciding factor, but the way this game played out, the Nuggets didn't get that first hand experience. It's not much, but it's not nothin either imo.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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vavvi
But that's a big if.
With this kind of effort we aren't winning against anybody
True, but I expect them to invest much more, Show a different effort, these last three games. If not they don't deserve better than getting buttfucked by GSW in the first round.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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pookenstein
Had it been a hard fought game down to the wire, Denver would have had extra Information how the Spurs Players might (re)act in certain situations. I'm not saying this could be a series deciding factor, but the way this game played out, the Nuggets didn't get that first hand experience. It's not much, but it's not nothin either imo.
In the past, Pop has certainly thrown late-season games against potential playoff opponents. Last night was the perfect storm: back-to-back, on the road in perhaps the toughest place to win a game in the whole league, could play them in round 1, cake schedule the rest of the way. In hindsight, I think we should have seen this coming. If this was 2008 Pop would have rested LMA and DDR, and probably White for good measure.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
is it certain the spurms are locked to play the nuggets in the first round?
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Concerned about those last 3 games...
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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is it certain the spurms are locked to play the nuggets in the first round?
Right now? Warriors (1) vs Spurs (8) is the most probable scenario.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Yeah, the Spurs have to win out and then get help from the Thunder or Clips. They’ve played so poorly against the bottom dwellers, and with two of those games on the road I’m not sure they’ll be able to do it. I’d like to see them get on a little roll before the post season but this group look like they’ve mailed it in.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Unfortunately Lonnie's play yesterday showed he isn't over himself. Another season with Austin is in order.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
I know it's garbage time, but it's great to see Walker look so smooth on offense. Gives hope to next season and beyond. Spurs are doing a great job of development. I think they get that you can't rely on getting a Tim Duncan in the lottery. To consistently have a competitive team, if not a title worthy team, you need to develop from within.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Originally Posted by
Ed Helicopter Jones
Thanks Timvp.
I just hope we can win out and avoid GSW. I don’t think the Spurs get past the first round unless they’re sand-bagging right now, but what I really don’t want is another 1st round series against GSW.
:pop: If any one is going to get swept by the Warriors in the first round it should be the Spurs.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
can't believe we are stuck at 8th seed and same 1st rd opponent again. Seems like this team is just incapable of self motivating. Pretty disappointing.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
I'm not a fan of Messina also. It seems like he forgets about some of the guys on the bench and is afraid to pull guys for lack of effort, not to mention the odd play calls. Messina also played Forbes and Mills together a bit too long which Denver was more than happy to attack consistently
One thing I love about Pop is he isn't afraid to pull guys who are making silly mistakes and throw hungry guys into the fire if the established guys seem to be lacking focus. Lonnie or anybody else should've been brought in earlier to help with the energy.
Another thing I hated that the players kept doing was doubling Joker. Especially when it was Mills and Forbes doubling because they are already at a disadvantage due to being shorter than Denver's perimeter guys. I mean I can understand doubling if he has a mismatch but if a guy like Aldridge, Gay, or Jacob are guarding the guy stay with the shooters and let Joker try and beat his man. The guy wants to pass more than he wants to post up and beat a player
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
1) Nuggets have the best home advantage in major sports. Altitude, not team quality.
2) Those lowly Hawks (my #2 team), clobbered the 76ers last night, and beat the Buck before losing to the Spurs. And remember, it wasn't Doncic for Young, it was Doncic for Young and the Mavericks 1st rounder this year.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
I am pulling for Lonnie to continue to improve so that he can earn the moniker:
Skywalker
or Skywalker II
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Drom John
1) Nuggets have the best home advantage in major sports. Altitude not team quality.
2) Those lowly Hawks (my #2 team), clobbered the 76ers last night, and beat the Buck before loosing to the Spurs. And remember, it wasn't Doncic for Young, it was Doncic for Young and the Mavericks 1st rounder this year.
Trae >> Doncic
Hawks mugged the Mavs
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks for the write up. Always like to read your perspective of the proceedings from the game on here. This was a rough game to sit through.
Was nice to see Lonnie get minutes in garbage time. He is still rough around the edges but you can see on the court why he was drafted by the front office.
There was a lot of head scratchers in the game play calls and the team just was just walking through the motions. Tough being a fan of this team when you sit through performances like this.
Regardless I still enjoy watching this team.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
I didn't get to watch the game but I'm happy for Pop. That's a record I can be proud of. Earliest ejection ever. I dare a coach to try and beat that!
I agree with the statement that D. White needs to play well for this team to do well. He is the engine from what it seems. When he was one, that is when we went on that run late December early January. And same thing after he came back from the All Star break after the rodeo road trip, we win 9 straight.
But honestly at this point i expect a loss in one of these last 3 games and i expect us to play the Warriors.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Imagine constructing a roster that lives and dies on your 2nd year late first rounder :lol
Really glad the Spurs took that Toronto package as a "Win Now" deal when Derozan is a net negative/irrelevant in the team's success and Jakob is regularly benched when playing lottery bound teams.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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monty4329
What information do they need? :rolleyes
Right, just play a 2-3 zone tbh. This team has shown they can’t figure that out tbh
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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monty4329
Good thoughts. Although I think you are too harsh on Messina playcalling. Unless you want more iso, which clearly is not working lately. So many shots were wide open, what more can you ask to a set?
If you shoot 5-27 from 3 and 18-25 FT, it is all on the players: they sleepwalk into a paycheck, that's it. I believe I know the reason, but whatever it is, the result is nobody plays hard.
(I understand the Becky for HC campaign is in full swing, but let's not exagerate...)
You are right on the substitution flow from Messina, it can be better. Still, when nobody plays to win, they hardly matter.
The game ended in the second quarter, when White in SA court weakly handed the ball to DDR who even more weakly just touched it and let the defender go at it (defender couldn't believe the gift). To me that was enough to foresee the game outcome. Right there was a Messina mistake, he should have benched both DDR and White on the spot. He did't want to exacerbate a bad mood, obviously, but that would have been the right move.
Besides the usual "memorable" game by DDR, I am very concerned by Bertans contribution, the guy is totally frustrated and can't make a shot. Not good.
I'd rather play the Warriors than Denver, anyway. At least then I can root for the Nuggets to beat first OKC and then the Coquettes.
At this point, I hope PATFO blows it up this summer.
The play you describe prompted me to turn to a different channel. I don't think SA can afford to "blow it up", nor do I believe PATFO (Pop) ever would. I would like to see them move DDR, LMA and one of Forbes/50Mills. Depending on the return I wouldn't necessarily call that blowing it up. Perhaps you would. But semantics aside, moving those gutless worms and bringing in some players with skills better suited to the young and promising backcourt players is my fondest dream for this team.
It is a little amusing to see some ST posters expressing a preference to play either GS or Denver in the first round. Two slightly different poisons, tbh, both equally deadly to a walking corpse like the Spurs.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
One thing about Walker, he can get to his spots easily given his superior quickness. Let's hope he gets more burn these last few games. We could really use another shot maker in the rotation. I'm so tired of the Mills/Forbes back court.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
funny looking at the nuggets bench when Lonnie took off for that dunk, thanks for those gifs
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Capt Bringdown
Walker's scoring looked good, but it was against garbage-time scrubz.
Murray played almost until the clock ran out, and some other rotation players were there. Garbage time in the NBA is both more scarce and more meaningful than any g-league minutes.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks for the thoughts Timvp, always appreciate it. I like to think Pop is just sandbagging and saving it for the playoffs. I like that he’s taking a good look at Lonnie. I sure hope he can play some defensive stops, coz boy that’s what we need. He sure can shoot those open 3’s.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Mugen
Unfortunately Lonnie's play yesterday showed he isn't over himself. Another season with Austin is in order.
lol word
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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r0drig0lac
Trae >> Doncic
Hawks mugged the Mavs
I live in the DFW area, and you'd think Doncic is the greatest thing since sliced bread if you listen to the Dallas media. What I see is a guy that has essentially had 4-5 years of better than college level competition in Europe. I see a guy with short arms who lacks conditioning. I see a guy who constantly whines at officials like he is entitled to something.
Trea young was in High School two years ago. Young has unbelievable quickness and once he settles down, he can be a poor man's Steph Curry - that is a complement. The Hawks will very possibly get another high quality player in the deal.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Thanks TIMVP. Good clips of LW. I needed to be reminded that there really was a bright spot in that mess. The Spurs know they aren't getting out of the first round. They should just give Lonnie the chance to start and get used to the big stage.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
If I am Pop and RC I am playing Walker every game this year with the understanding you want to make sure he is going in right direction. The most important thing for him is to keep his confidence up if he can do that and get minutes it will pay off big time next year in his development
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
those lowly hawks haven't been all that bad lately.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
lonnie seems to play at his best when there is no pressure on him and that is why i think he performed poorly against the hawks. those were more meaningful minutes. the hawks bench was pretty impressed with walker though as they were reacting often to his play during the 4th. once walker gets his confidence in check, i think he is going to be something special for the spurs.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Harry Callahan
I live in the DFW area, and you'd think Doncic is the greatest thing since sliced bread if you listen to the Dallas media. What I see is a guy that has essentially had 4-5 years of better than college level competition in Europe. I see a guy with short arms who lacks conditioning. I see a guy who constantly whines at officials like he is entitled to something.
Trea young was in High School two years ago. Young has unbelievable quickness and once he settles down, he can be a poor man's Steph Curry - that is a complement. The Hawks will very possibly get another high quality player in the deal.
it's pretty impressive to have one of the best rookie seasons of all time with the lack of condidtioning and short arms. Imagine what he will do when he gets in shape. Sucks that Trae Young will always be a midget and wont be able to play defense. But hey, at least he sometimes makes crazy shots.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Texas_Ranger
it's pretty impressive to have one of the best rookie seasons of all time with the lack of condidtioning and short arms. Imagine what he will do when he gets in shape. Sucks that Trae Young will always be a midget and wont be able to play defense. But hey, at least he sometimes makes crazy shots.
you forgot to say that Trae's playmaking skill is much better as Doncic will never be, and also that he was more efficient than the slovenian guy in the second half of the season, but as you yourself said, in addition, he sometimes does crazy shots too.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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r0drig0lac
you forgot to say that Trae's playmaking skill is much better as Doncic will never be, and also that he was more efficient than the slovenian guy in the second half of the season, but as you yourself said, in addition, he sometimes does crazy shots too.
Yea Trae will most likely have more assists per game, but at least Doncic will never be the worst defender in the whole league.
and LOL at this second half of the season..
Young - 22.7 pts, 4.4 reb, 8.8 ast, 0.8 stl
Doncic - 23.2 pts, 9 reb, 7 ast, 1 stl
And Doncic is doing this shit while his whole starting lineup was traded.
If you like Trae more, it's fine, but don't act like Doncic has been bad the second half of the year. This roty race would be close if the little American didn't play like shit for the first 2 months. Sucks for you that he did.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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timvp
That jump got even the Nuggets bench hyped. :lol
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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ZeusWillJudge
Thanks TIMVP. Good clips of LW. I needed to be reminded that there really was a bright spot in that mess. The Spurs know they aren't getting out of the first round. They should just give Lonnie the chance to start and get used to the big stage.
Maybe Lonnie will get all the minutes that Simmons got in the 2017 WCF.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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r0drig0lac
you forgot to say that Trae's playmaking skill is much better as Doncic will never be, and also that he was more efficient than the slovenian guy in the second half of the season, but as you yourself said, in addition, he sometimes does crazy shots too.
I don't care who is "better" between Doncic or Young ....but you surely know that Young is almost the worse defender in the league (#332). That's spectacularly bad.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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rjv
those lowly hawks haven't been all that bad lately.
They were missing hella rotation players when we played them.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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D-Robinson 50 fan
One thing I love about Pop is he isn't afraid to pull guys who are making silly mistakes and throw hungry guys into the fire if the established guys seem to be lacking focus. Lonnie or anybody else should've been brought in earlier to help with the energy.
I do not see that much anymore - except with the scrubs. He no longer coaches the divas, LMA and Dumbmar, like he did the big 3. They would wilt.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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DAF86
That jump got even the Nuggets bench hyped. :lol
I noticed that too. I showed my buddy at work.
Man would've been a monster highlight had he been able to dunk it!
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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sasaint
The play you describe prompted me to turn to a different channel. I don't think SA can afford to "blow it up", nor do I believe PATFO (Pop) ever would. I would like to see them move DDR, LMA and one of Forbes/50Mills. Depending on the return I wouldn't necessarily call that blowing it up. Perhaps you would. But semantics aside, moving those gutless worms and bringing in some players with skills better suited to the young and promising backcourt players is my fondest dream for this team.
It is a little amusing to see some ST posters expressing a preference to play either GS or Denver in the first round. Two slightly different poisons, tbh, both equally deadly to a walking corpse like the Spurs.
Moving those guys u just described is definitely blowing it up
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Spurch
Moving those guys u just described is definitely blowing it up
Okay. Then I'd blow it up.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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Texas_Ranger
Yea Trae will most likely have more assists per game
irrelevant, that's not what I said
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
there's no way this team wins the last 3 games. They'll probably go 1-2
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
Walker should start for the rest of the season, including playoffs.
No good reason not to.
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
why does pop not let becky coach
I thought he was a donkey?
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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objective
As it's a random thought I'll put it in this thread but after having all season to watch Poeltl I'm not too enthralled with him. Yes he does contest better than Pau was and is a factor on the offensive glass, I just don't think he is a consistent or strong enough roll man at making himself available.
I think Milutinov is better, tougher for sure with better hands. He's a mean hombre compared to Poeltl. I hope he's brought over next season.
And as strange as that may sound to have yet another center, one thing I have not liked at all this season is the minutes Aldridge logs. It's too many. Over 35 after the All-Star break, over 36 in March, and before Denver over 38 in April.
He's going to be 34 next year. Cut his weight down and cut his minutes down, time for some Duncan approach
+1
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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objective
As it's a random thought I'll put it in this thread but after having all season to watch Poeltl I'm not too enthralled with him. Yes he does contest better than Pau was and is a factor on the offensive glass, I just don't think he is a consistent or strong enough roll man at making himself available.
I think Milutinov is better, tougher for sure with better hands. He's a mean hombre compared to Poeltl. I hope he's brought over next season.
And as strange as that may sound to have yet another center, one thing I have not liked at all this season is the minutes Aldridge logs. It's too many. Over 35 after the All-Star break, over 36 in March, and before Denver over 38 in April.
He's going to be 34 next year. Cut his weight down and cut his minutes down, time for some Duncan approach
everything about poodle so far screams backup center
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Re: Random Thoughts: Spurs @ Nuggets - Apr. 3, 2019
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ducks
why does pop not let becky coach
I thought he was a donkey?
Why? because she is a woman? What do you know about her coaching abilities? experience? Why not let Obama coach?