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If White stays healthy and builds off this...
If one of Walker or Murray turns out...
We could have a dynasty again.
Murray would be the decisive factor in this series. We desperately need a guard so the Gary Harris's of the world don't go off. We'll get exposed against a complete team but we are really close!
and we got 2 picks in this draft
There's no point in tanking. It just brings years of misery most of the time.
Rebuilding year, we are in the playoffs up 2-1 despite the world thinking we wouldn't even make it here.
We've got young guys on the up. White, Murray, Walker, Poetl and two first rounders. Any other team would love to be in this position let alone in a rebuilding year.
I think for some in here winning is a disappointment, because then they can't use the Spurs struggles to vicariously vent their frustration with their own miserable lives.
Philly tanked for years and their still an incomplete team. How many wasted lottery picks did the 76ers screw up on and the picks they did hit ln, Embid and Simmons, don't mesh together at all on the court.
We don't tank, we reload
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Post of the Year so far.
Things sure have changed since November.
Spurs front office needed to know what they had with players in biggest lights
Agree. Some of these dipshits just post stupid shit for a reaction. And then there are some that ,unfortunately, are just not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. For a Spurs team that has lost 4 hall of famers, .this is a pretty decent team PATFO has put together, Gasol and Patty excludedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
My friend, in the last few years we went from Championship or bust to celebrating the possibility of not being eliminated in Rd 1. Regardless of what White, DJ or Lonnie do we have very few chance competing with the likes of GSW, MIL, HOU or TOR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
But I agree with you in the sense that this year's team is fun to watch, probably to most fun since 2014.
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
If it meant Zion then I'm all in for tanking!
But I would love for this team to make the WCF. it would shut up all the haters and doubters. Plus any playoff experience for White/Jakob will only help us in the long run.
I hate Pop half the time and marvel at his genius the other half. We are the most spoiled modern fan base in history (along with New England). You’re wrong though - if DJ is what he was supposed to be this year without injury we would be right up there with GS, Toronto and Milwaukee - better than Houston.
Spurs were lucky it was a down year for the West. Gone are the days of getting 50 wins in the West to make the playoffs so they look in turn look more solid than they actually are.
Not to discredit them completely though, if you told me Derrick white was gonna be this good in his second year, I would have felt so much better about the Spurs post-Nephew.
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
You think the takes are bad in here when we are the 7th seed? Wait till we miss the playoffs, will be epic trolling
Given Tim and Manu retiring, and Tony being traded and Leonard forcing the Spurs to trade him, what exactly where your expectations with this team?Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
right?! And people want to get rid of Pop. This is one of his best coached seasons, it’s gonna be a dark day when he decides to quit. I know we all question him sometimes, my self included, but he is one of the goats.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
Not to mention Embid is always "sore" and injured. He only played 8 regular season games since the All-Star game.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
The Lakers will be better next year and make the playoffs. The Suns, Mavs, and Kings will all be better but still not playoff ready. Depending on how free agency goes for the Clippers they could be a better team as well. With all this being said I think the Spurs do need to upgrade their roster during the offseason. Pop has never been known to go after top tier all-stars but maybe there are a couple upcoming free agents worth pursuing?
There were a few bad performances this year, a lot of them happening when White was hurt and DeRozan worn down.
D. White by himself makes this season way more enjoyable.
If the Spurs had not fallen asleep (the bench mostly) for a quarter, the Spurs would be trying to close this out Saturday night.
Beating Denver would be a huge accomplishment this year. That bunch from Denver is not a bunch of chumps. They are a very good team.
I don’t agree. We have number 7 Clippers giving blessed Dubs a run for their money. We at number 7 can arguably beat any team (and has beaten the best teams in the regular season). MVP candidate and former MVP in 6th place. The West is still very competitive, and East number 2-4 just got a little better.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Again we can’t give enough credit to Spurs development team. Picking the right player is one thing, but helping mold that guy to his best potential is another. Every year. Spurs fan are spoiled and rotten spoiled tbh.
I never understood that this was the 100% explanation for the logic that less wins per conference = down year. To me it can also mean that the competition throughout the league is becoming more evened out. And at the end of the day I thought most people wanted more parity in the league?Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
I agree 100%. and if durant leaves warriors the league is pretty much wide open imoQuote:
Originally Posted by KDKSpurs24
Chill, we lucked into playing one of the worst second seeds in the West in a long time :lol..
Would have been a curbstomping sweep vs the Warriors/Rockets and Guests probably beat us in 6..
Would like to see Coach Bud come back once Gregg hangs it up to keep the system in place
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Yeah, it couldn't be that some people analyzed the roster and cap situation, and saw a 1 year tank as the quickest way to get a talent infusion to get themselves back into serious contention for the LOB. It must be some weird sort of psychological mother-hating cry for help.
Buncha cocks crowing on a dunghill in this thread. I'd almost guarantee some of the same people were melting down after that Game 2 loss in Denver. Hindsight makes geniuses out of a lot of shoe clerks, and the internet makes lions out of a lot of mice. Present company excluded, of course.
Just imagine for a second if we close out Denver, I think we would beat the Blazers or Thunder to face possibly the Rockets in the WCF. The way they have been playing, I think they beat the Warriors in the 2nd round and spurstalk would lose their mind if we make it to the finals against the Raptors haha. One can only dream.
All the west PO teams won at least 48 games this year...Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
the basis of this thread is the proposition of a couple of our younger players turning out and what that could mean for our future... what are you going on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
obviously we would get stamped. White is reason for hope and excitement as well as Murray and Walker, not to mention our two first rounders. Basically in a Boston lite position going forward with the wealth of young talent.
Blazers are next.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Prime example.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
Look at GS-
They had years of lottery picks before they hit gold with Curry and to a lesser degree Thompson.
Boston has had a multiple prime draft picks and cap space to sign or absorb through trade - yet they seem far from a title contender.
Of course there is the example of Sacramento......
I'm still on the fence- about whether it was better to tank or go with the current strategy- but tanking is definitely not a guarantee and can be quite painful.
I think the most disappointing part is that the Spurs came very close to remaining at least a borderline championship contender without having to tank. Or least most of thought that-who knows maybe the Nephew has been planning his escape for several years.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha_HaZE
The next few years will be very interesting. LMA is 33 and only next year is fully guaranteed, DDR turns 30 over the summer on board for two more so not terrible.
While White, Dejounte, Poodle, Walker etc are all intriguing- I still don't see a way this combination becomes even an outside contender in the next 5 years.
I am not afraid to say I was on the one year tank cause early on we we’re playing like crap and loosing bad. But have never been let’s trade our all stars and break up team that is crazy as I think we just need maybe one good SF away from being true contenders.
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Tanking is stupid, but "dynasty"? Really?
Don't counter one extreme with another.
the west was blood bath this year with 14 out of 15 teams tryin to make the playoffs and the Spurs only lost 9 more games than Golden State. Add to that that about 10 of them were against bottom tier teams that the Spurs could've easily won (Bulls game at home, Memphis game where LA gets fouled on a 3, etc., etc.) and that's a good result especially with your starting PG being out for the season. If they reach the WCF this season is a successQuote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Tanking got the spurs in a better position to land DuncanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
They might not even keep the 29th pick. It wouldn't be a surprise if they trade it away so not to pay the guaranteed contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
If the Rockets beat GS they are not losing to the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by acoelho1
Damn, post of the year for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
It is going to be a very very long time before the Spurs are in the finals again.
It wasn't until Duncan came that the Spurs were able to reach the finals and it is going to take another top level player like Duncan to get there again. It is going to take at least one year and likely more in the lottery to get that type of player.
IF they beat the Dubs, it might be just about the time for the annual CP0 playoff ending injury, and the annual Harden playoff disappearing act, so who knows?Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
God damn if this isn't the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Except they didn't tank at all. That year was just brutal on the injury front. Robinson out to start the year, then comes back and almost immediately breaks his foot. There were games that year where the Spurs barely suited up 8 because of the injuries they had. It was so bad an ancient and fat Dominique was putting up 20+ PPG as the Spurs had no one else to get buckets.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...-very-ouch.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
But but but.. they should have brought their franchise 7-footer back early from a broken foot injury so that they'd win a couple more games! #SpursTankedQuote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Wonder how long the playoff streak will go now, at least 30 years right?
Into the infinite future. Well, they say the sun will explode in about 4 billion years. That could end the playoff streak, unless the franchise moves.Quote:
Originally Posted by vander
And people here still question RC and Pop off court decisions...Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
as everyone else has already pointed out ^ thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
You can definitely criticize them for the shitty contracts of Gasol and Mills, but as far as their drafting acumen, their the best in the league imo. Besides the dumbasses on here that go way overboard with their "PATCO sucks", "Pop sucks, is senile", etc... schtick, they do it for reaction on here. None of them would spew their nonsense in public, for fear of getting laughed at and ridiculed mercilessly.Quote:
Originally Posted by monty4329
I certainly criticize some contracts, some choices, some picks. Also I am very critical of some on court decisions by Pop. But one thing I consider blasphemy is to attack them because they don't tank. Besides being a LOSER's strategy, it doesn't work. As you pointed out in your previous comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
There's people here that thinks 5 spots up would grant SA the new Admiral, every year, if they were making the picks... :lmao
I don't think Kawhi planned his escape for years, but was open to it, as we all witnessed. I think what happened, is what Pop jokingly said about Derrick; that he shouldn't play until they write a new contract for him. Kawhi wanted a new contract, Spurs wanted to see him play and healthy and the whole thing exploded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddog
My secret hope is to get POR in Rd2, beat them, and then trade LA for Nurkic and fillers. LA said he wants to end his career in Portland, he will also get his 15% trade kicker and Blazers will probably pay him the last year of his contract. With the money we save we might be able to add one more piece that will put us over the top and become contenders again.
But, overall, I agree with your assessment it will probably take some time until we are contenders again.
Want to tank?
No no no... want A tank.
I want a tank, not to tank.
Yes they did and I am happy they did. I remember following it and hoping they would do the smart thing and not play Robinson to have the better chance to get Duncan. Everyone knew Duncan was a franchise changing player so there was no sense playing Robinson, who was cleared to play the last month of the season to get a few more wins and decrease the odds of getting the top pick. Yes, the class act Spurs( corny belief by Spur fans) tanked.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
When's the "Won 2 games in the 1st round" banner going up?
:lmao
Assuming they go on to lose this series, yes.
I have no idea why posters like you get so active when we lose... why would you ever like to be like that... it’s seriously depressing. I use to think y’all were trolls but you actually just live life like that. Mature up bro frQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
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Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
I don’t care my man... I hardly post anymore anyhow. It’s just sad y’all never change and are exactly the same things you criticize. Call our cancers and then be cancers yourself. It’s hypocrisy.
:lol I'm just fucking with you, bruh. You seem like an emotional guy so don't take it too personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
Sure the two wins this series are nice so if you take great pride and joy in those wins, I'm not taking that away from you.
There are obviously posters on the board who think the team and Pop should never be criticized and that's fine tbh....
It’s way better watching your team in the playoffs than not. This has been a decent series and been fun.
y'all lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
Just use you. You can be plural, you do know that.
Sure, the wins have been fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
But after they're gone in 6 games by next weekend, I'd rather have moved up the draft 2-3 spots tbh. (more if they could have tanked properly)
I'd rather watch the spurs in the draft lottery and watch them on draft day with a lottery pick because that is how they are going to improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
This has been hashed out so many times; there is no guarantee of anything in the draft and Spurs have been just fine drafting where they have been; while winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
Pretty sure most of the fans on this board would rather have a 7th seed and a first round loss than a top 5 pick in a draft.
Crazy to me but that's what happens when a team is the only game in town where there's nothing to do after basketball season is over tbh.
They were fine with Duncan on the team and drafting late, no more. They need a star quality impact addition to the roster and it is going to take a high lottery pick to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Ask the Lakers how that goes. CLE post-Bron. PHX. Could go on forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
If your team is good enough to be a playoff team of course. It’s not like teams that are playoff teams just decide to tank to the tune of 30 wins for a year so they can land a top 5 pick and then go right back to being a 50 win team :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
I’m sorry man but you hurt me deeply and I’m not gonna let you finesse me with your wit and charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
It goes great. That is how they got Magic Johnson and Cleveland got LeBron. PHX is turning their team around with these high draft picks they will be on the rise in a couple of years while the Spurs are declining.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Cheers, my dude. Happy Easter! GSGQuote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
The organization literally only does one thing well in the offseason and the fat fans don't want to arm them with as many bullets in the chamber as possible just so they could scarf down some churros at the arena a couple of times during the playoffs, boggles my mind :lol
:lol Lakers have not made the playoffs in 6 years with all their top 5 picks :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by rascal
People are way to comfident right now
:lol when did that begin?Quote:
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Also be on the rise in a couple years. They have been getting a bunch of top picks for going on 7 years now, not enough time to rise :lol?
Bruh, if they were going to be bad, then sure, be bad. But again, 50 win teams can’t tank lol. It’s not like GS is going to say “hey, we are losing KD next season, so let’s lose games on purpose so we can add Zion the following year and go right back to winning!”Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
He'd rather Monty Williams coach this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immortal Spur
Maybe Tye Lue...
Need to keep in mind those teams have had people like fucking Magic Johnson making their picks while the Spurs have RC Buford.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Doesn’t matter; would RC do better than them? Sure. But it’s not like there is a guaranteed Duncan/Lebron in every draft. Most of the teams with top 5 picks the past 6-8 years still suck even though they get multiple of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Spurs could've unloaded DDR, let LMA get his touches, and had White, Walker, and the other young players get experience to the tune of 26 wins then ended up with a top 10 pick to add to White/Murray/Walker/LMA next season. That pick doesn't need to be a Lebron/Duncan for this team to win 50 next year and have a punchers chance of contending.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
the talk downplaying a higher pick is ridiculous :lol
This doesn’t make sense. SA won 48 wins this year; why would you do what you are saying for the off chance that maybe you can get 2 more wins?Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
The hard thing is building a 50 win team; SA has done that and don’t need to tank to do so.
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Originally Posted by gambit1990
Who is downplaying a higher pick?
No, I'm saying this team has no chance at contending now or in the near future but a team of Murray/White/Walker/LMA/Top 10 pick and pieces does. Both have the potential for 50 wins but the latter could actually contend.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
It’s not an option. LMA, as we saw without Kawhi last year, is too good to truly tank. There was no scenario where this makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Spurs absolutely can contend (to me that means you have a shot at WCF). They were good this year, already have guys like White/Lonnie/Murray coming into the fold and have free agency and draft to add to this team. It’s already right there.
I’m not saying DeRozan is untradable or that I would be mad if they moved him; I’m saying the team is good and good teams can’t tank. I am also saying that many times the difference in pick 10 and pick 19 isn’t that much. Sometimes it is, but most times it turns out not to be.
Spurs have everything you mentioned except the top 10 pick and that pick vs what the spurs have is no where near the difference in being a contender and not. If you believe that LMA/Murray/White/Lonnie is a core that can contend, SA has that core with DeRozan.
The Spurs had the best defense in the league last year that helped win 47 games. Not so this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Not sure what the Spurs can add in FA this year with limited cap space, but they lucked out this year with the seeding. If they had gotten GS or HOU they'd be getting swept out of the postseason. Considering those are the two teams they need to compete with to win the West I'd say they're not contending.
The fit with Murray/DDR is going to be awkward at best and impossible at worst, so moving on from DDR seems like an inevitability at this point (might be inevitable regardless since DDR might not wanna be here in SA). The difference between the 10th and 19th is huge, whether you have RC making the pick or the Spurs trading it with other assets for a higher pick or big name player.
The LMA/Murray/White/Walker core right now isn't a contender, but getting another high level prospect and internal growth from the young players can get them there. DDR is what he is and, as I said, is a poor fit next to the other players right now. Even assuming Murray develops off-ball skills and shooting to be able to play alongside DDR competently, DDR's salary may keep the Spurs from retaining him while they end up losing DDR himself the following season.
If the Spurs got GS or HOU....well yeah. IF Sa just had Murray this year they are like a 52-54 win team and still would not be getting GS or HOU.
And there is zero chance sa loses Murray because of DeRozan’s money.
We did, and we still do.Quote:
And some of y'all want to tank
I like Ayton and Mikal Bridges and they are in a good position to add Zion to that young team so they will be on the rise.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
I would trade the Spurs roster for Phoenix's right now and add their lottery pick this year. They are a young team and will be on the rise while the Spurs will be in free fall.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
No. I’m downplaying people who think the spurs should be more like the suns or lakers :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by rascal
You are moving the goal posts. This is about the Spurs getting their own high draft pick and nothing about comparing the spurs with any other teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920