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Originally Posted by
Mugen
:lol I'm just fucking with you, bruh. You seem like an emotional guy so don't take it too personal.
Sure the two wins this series are nice so if you take great pride and joy in those wins, I'm not taking that away from you.
There are obviously posters on the board who think the team and Pop should never be criticized and that's fine tbh....
I’m sorry man but you hurt me deeply and I’m not gonna let you finesse me with your wit and charm.
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Ask the Lakers how that goes. CLE post-Bron. PHX. Could go on forever.
It goes great. That is how they got Magic Johnson and Cleveland got LeBron. PHX is turning their team around with these high draft picks they will be on the rise in a couple of years while the Spurs are declining.
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
Immortal Spur
I’m sorry man but you hurt me deeply and I’m not gonna let you finesse me with your wit and charm.
Cheers, my dude. Happy Easter! GSG
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The organization literally only does one thing well in the offseason and the fat fans don't want to arm them with as many bullets in the chamber as possible just so they could scarf down some churros at the arena a couple of times during the playoffs, boggles my mind :lol
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
rascal
It goes great. That is how they got Magic Johnson and Cleveland got LeBron. PHX is turning their team around with these high draft picks they will be on the rise in a couple of years while the Spurs are declining.
:lol Lakers have not made the playoffs in 6 years with all their top 5 picks :lol
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People are way to comfident right now
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Originally Posted by
rascal
It goes great. That is how they got Magic Johnson and Cleveland got LeBron. PHX is turning their team around with these high draft picks they will be on the rise in a couple of years while the Spurs are declining.
:lol when did that begin?
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Originally Posted by
rascal
It goes great. That is how they got Magic Johnson and Cleveland got LeBron. PHX is turning their team around with these high draft picks they will be on the rise in a couple of years while the Spurs are declining.
Also be on the rise in a couple years. They have been getting a bunch of top picks for going on 7 years now, not enough time to rise :lol?
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Originally Posted by
Mugen
The organization literally only does one thing well in the offseason and the fat fans don't want to arm them with as many bullets in the chamber as possible just so they could scarf down some churros at the arena a couple of times during the playoffs, boggles my mind :lol
Bruh, if they were going to be bad, then sure, be bad. But again, 50 win teams can’t tank lol. It’s not like GS is going to say “hey, we are losing KD next season, so let’s lose games on purpose so we can add Zion the following year and go right back to winning!”
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Originally Posted by
Immortal Spur
I’m sorry man but you hurt me deeply and I’m not gonna let you finesse me with your wit and charm.
He'd rather Monty Williams coach this team.
Maybe Tye Lue...
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Ask the Lakers how that goes. CLE post-Bron. PHX. Could go on forever.
Need to keep in mind those teams have had people like fucking Magic Johnson making their picks while the Spurs have RC Buford.
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
Need to keep in mind those teams have had people like fucking Magic Johnson making their picks while the Spurs have RC Buford.
Doesn’t matter; would RC do better than them? Sure. But it’s not like there is a guaranteed Duncan/Lebron in every draft. Most of the teams with top 5 picks the past 6-8 years still suck even though they get multiple of them.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Doesn’t matter; would RC do better than them? Sure. But it’s not like there is a guaranteed Duncan/Lebron in every draft. Most of the teams with top 5 picks the past 6-8 years still suck even though they get multiple of them.
Spurs could've unloaded DDR, let LMA get his touches, and had White, Walker, and the other young players get experience to the tune of 26 wins then ended up with a top 10 pick to add to White/Murray/Walker/LMA next season. That pick doesn't need to be a Lebron/Duncan for this team to win 50 next year and have a punchers chance of contending.
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the talk downplaying a higher pick is ridiculous :lol
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
Spurs could've unloaded DDR, let LMA get his touches, and had White, Walker, and the other young players get experience to the tune of 26 wins then ended up with a top 10 pick to add to White/Murray/Walker/LMA next season. That pick doesn't need to be a Lebron/Duncan for this team to win 50 next year and have a punchers chance of contending.
This doesn’t make sense. SA won 48 wins this year; why would you do what you are saying for the off chance that maybe you can get 2 more wins?
The hard thing is building a 50 win team; SA has done that and don’t need to tank to do so.
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Originally Posted by
gambit1990
the talk downplaying a higher pick is ridiculous :lol
Who is downplaying a higher pick?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
This doesn’t make sense. SA won 48 wins this year; why would you do what you are saying for the off chance that maybe you can get 2 more wins?
The hard thing is building a 50 win team; SA has done that and don’t need to tank to do so.
No, I'm saying this team has no chance at contending now or in the near future but a team of Murray/White/Walker/LMA/Top 10 pick and pieces does. Both have the potential for 50 wins but the latter could actually contend.
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Robz4000
No, I'm saying this team has no chance at contending now or in the near future but a team of Murray/White/Walker/LMA/Top 10 pick and pieces does. Both have the potential for 50 wins but the latter could actually contend.
It’s not an option. LMA, as we saw without Kawhi last year, is too good to truly tank. There was no scenario where this makes sense.
Spurs absolutely can contend (to me that means you have a shot at WCF). They were good this year, already have guys like White/Lonnie/Murray coming into the fold and have free agency and draft to add to this team. It’s already right there.
I’m not saying DeRozan is untradable or that I would be mad if they moved him; I’m saying the team is good and good teams can’t tank. I am also saying that many times the difference in pick 10 and pick 19 isn’t that much. Sometimes it is, but most times it turns out not to be.
Spurs have everything you mentioned except the top 10 pick and that pick vs what the spurs have is no where near the difference in being a contender and not. If you believe that LMA/Murray/White/Lonnie is a core that can contend, SA has that core with DeRozan.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
It’s not an option. LMA, as we saw without Kawhi last year, is too good to truly tank. There was no scenario where this makes sense.
Spurs absolutely can contend (to me that means you have a shot at WCF). They were good this year, already have guys like White/Lonnie/Murray coming into the fold and have free agency and draft to add to this team. It’s already right there.
I’m not saying DeRozan is untradable or that I would be mad if they moved him; I’m saying the team is good and good teams can’t tank. I am also saying that many times the difference in pick 10 and pick 19 isn’t that much. Sometimes it is, but most times it turns out not to be.
Spurs have everything you mentioned except the top 10 pick and that pick vs what the spurs have is no where near the difference in being a contender and not. If you believe that LMA/Murray/White/Lonnie is a core that can contend, SA has that core with DeRozan.
The Spurs had the best defense in the league last year that helped win 47 games. Not so this year.
Not sure what the Spurs can add in FA this year with limited cap space, but they lucked out this year with the seeding. If they had gotten GS or HOU they'd be getting swept out of the postseason. Considering those are the two teams they need to compete with to win the West I'd say they're not contending.
The fit with Murray/DDR is going to be awkward at best and impossible at worst, so moving on from DDR seems like an inevitability at this point (might be inevitable regardless since DDR might not wanna be here in SA). The difference between the 10th and 19th is huge, whether you have RC making the pick or the Spurs trading it with other assets for a higher pick or big name player.
The LMA/Murray/White/Walker core right now isn't a contender, but getting another high level prospect and internal growth from the young players can get them there. DDR is what he is and, as I said, is a poor fit next to the other players right now. Even assuming Murray develops off-ball skills and shooting to be able to play alongside DDR competently, DDR's salary may keep the Spurs from retaining him while they end up losing DDR himself the following season.
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If the Spurs got GS or HOU....well yeah. IF Sa just had Murray this year they are like a 52-54 win team and still would not be getting GS or HOU.
And there is zero chance sa loses Murray because of DeRozan’s money.
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And some of y'all want to tank
We did, and we still do.
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
:lol when did that begin?
I like Ayton and Mikal Bridges and they are in a good position to add Zion to that young team so they will be on the rise.
I would trade the Spurs roster for Phoenix's right now and add their lottery pick this year. They are a young team and will be on the rise while the Spurs will be in free fall.
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Who is downplaying a higher pick?
You
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Re: And some of y'all want to tank...
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Originally Posted by
rascal
You
No. I’m downplaying people who think the spurs should be more like the suns or lakers :lol
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
No. I’m downplaying people who think the spurs should be more like the suns or lakers :lol
You are moving the goal posts. This is about the Spurs getting their own high draft pick and nothing about comparing the spurs with any other teams.