Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
What was the other side? They didn't lose anything of value other than a weak pick:lol
The test will be if Kawhi walks. Hate on DeRozan all you want but he guaranteed them being a playoff team which is a big deal. If they traded that away and miss the playoffs the following year if Kawhi walks?
That is a massive deal.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
The test will be if Kawhi walks. Hate on DeRozan all you want but he guaranteed them being a playoff team which is a big deal. If they traded that away and miss the playoffs the following year if Kawhi walks?
That is a massive deal.
They're likely a playoff team even if Kawhi walks. He missed several games this season and still won without him.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
therealtruth
They're likely a playoff team even if Kawhi walks. He missed several games this season and still won without him.
Definitely possible. They have some solid players. But the point remains, they were guaranteed a playoff spot before the trade. For a market like TOR that is a big deal.
Even though they will have cap space, if they lose Kawhi, they have not been a market that can attract talent typically. It might force them into overpaying for Gasol since they wont want to lose all their big name talent.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
The test will be if Kawhi walks. Hate on DeRozan all you want but he guaranteed them being a playoff team which is a big deal. If they traded that away and miss the playoffs the following year if Kawhi walks?
That is a massive deal.
They were better this year without Kawhi by a large margin.
They were salary dumping Derozen, so worst case scenario they traded Poetl for D Green, which is a win in the short term, tbd long term. Best case they keep Kawhi and it's probably one of the more lopsided trades since Pau landed at LAX.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
313
They were better this year without Kawhi by a large margin.
They were salary dumping Derozen, so worst case scenario they traded Poetl for D Green, which is a win in the short term, tbd long term. Best case they keep Kawhi and it's probably one of the more lopsided trades since Pau landed at LAX.
It was a worthwhile trade no matter what and if the keep Kawhi its a huge win. But there is a downside to this that is yet to be determined IF Kawhi leaves.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
313
They were better this year without Kawhi by a large margin.
They were salary dumping Derozen, so worst case scenario they traded Poetl for D Green, which is a win in the short term, tbd long term. Best case they keep Kawhi and it's probably one of the more lopsided trades since Pau landed at LAX.
What are you talking about? The Raptors were 5.4 better in net rating with Kawhi on the court. Much better offensively, and only slightly worse defensively.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
If you watch the Spurs vs. Nuggets series, this is exactly why you DON'T trade Danny Green. He actually shows up in the playoffs and doesn't disappear like 60% of our roster
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
What was the other side? They didn't lose anything of value other than a weak pick:lol
They got a year of contending and dumped a bad contract..
If Masai was able to complete the Conley for Lowry deal then they would content for real but now whoever comes out of the Rockets-Dubs matchup wins it all imo.
It was the wrong year to content with GS still going super strong. He didn't lose anything but he didn't win anything either imo.
The ultimate goal is to win a title not just create cap space and i don't see them winning anything any time soon.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
trading away Kawhi is unforgivable, even with the circumstances, you offer the supermax and run your chances that he stay, you have nothing to lose, he is a generational player, one season of him worth more than even 5 Derozans, Pop like he used to was overthink it with his righteous shit and cost us big time...
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
If you watch the Spurs vs. Nuggets series, this is exactly why you DON'T trade Danny Green. He actually shows up in the playoffs and doesn't disappear like 60% of our roster
?????? when did this happen? 2013 is cool and all, but danny is no magic savior.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
kobyz
trading away Kawhi is unforgivable, even with the circumstances, you offer the supermax and run your chances that he stay, you have nothing to lose, he is a generational player, one season of him worth more than even 5 Derozans, Pop like he used to was overthink it with his righteous shit and cost us big time...
One more season of Leonard hiding in NY with his uncle and refusing to play would not have helped the spurs this season.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
TXstbobcat
One more season of Leonard hiding in NY with his uncle and refusing to play would not have helped the spurs this season.
he would not have done that, spurs had power to prevent it or make him losing free agency rights...
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
If you watch the Spurs vs. Nuggets series, this is exactly why you DON'T trade Danny Green. He actually shows up in the playoffs and doesn't disappear like 60% of our roster
Most of us were ready to move on DG. His 3 pt shooting had slipped for several seasons. Maybe a step slow on defense (still better than most on this team).
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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Originally Posted by
playbonner15
Siakam will also be a good replacement for Rudy. Oh well hindsight is truly 20-20
For sure, but if I had to guess they did ask for Siakam, and OG, wouldn't you? To my understanding, the Spurs are always looking at all possible scenarios. I don't think either of them was available, but yes;
White, Green, Siakam, Gay and LA would have been a joy to watch. Both defensively and offensively.
Re: Siakam + Poeltl + picks would have been a better package for Nephew + DGreen
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K...
?????? when did this happen? 2013 is cool and all, but danny is no magic savior.
he would do wonders for this team. Game 5 of the 2017 Rockets series comes to mind