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Originally Posted by kobyz
just trade DeRozan for Beal, much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by kobyz
Spurs need a player on the roster like a Kevin Willis, Mario Ellie, or JR Reid. A tough guy.
Marcus MorrisQuote:
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/airalam...eus-young/amp/
Spurs interested in Thaddeus Young?
Good one. The Spurs need a dirty/tough player on their roster. Even a Will Perdue type. A thug even ala Stephen Jackson type.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford
Misleading title.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursBig3s
sign aminu and mcgee.
Exactly. Fake news, clickbait title, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
Young would be a nice fit though, as long as everybody shoots the 3 well in the starting line up, which is a huge question mark. I wouldn't be mad if we got him. Air Alamo is basically some guy from reddit with a website who reads spurstalk. That site has 0 sourcesQuote:
Originally Posted by SpursBig3s
I'm inclined to believe that LJ Ellis is correct in the assumption that we'll be having another go with the pretty much the same roster. It's not likely that PATFO are going to, nor should that want to, make any huge changes to the roster just 1 year removed from #2 departing. Corporate knowledge/culture has to be re-solidified if we want to make a run at a title any time soon, and I believe the pieces for that are already on the roster.
Once Murray returns, we should have no problems competing with any back court in the NBA. Most people seem to believe DJ will return to PG and White will fill in the SG spot. I think DJ is better suited at the 2 and White should be running the team. White has already proven to have the IQ to run a team, he just needs a little more seasoning. White is a constant threat from anywhere on the floor. He's shown he can pull up for 3 off the dribble, run a pick and roll with efficiency, as well as having excellent court vision. His finishes at the rim leave something to be desired but I believe he can work on that.
I'm not trying to take anything away from DJ, I know he's been working hard and we all see that he's working on his 3 point shot. But I can't picture DJ hitting 3s off the dribble, yet, at the same efficiency White would be able to if the situation called for it. DJ would be better suited as a spot up 3pt shooter. I don't think Murray needs the ball in his hands to be efficient on the offensive end of the court, his elite hustle will get points and assist on the board, as will his defense. Obviously he would still have ball handling duties, but the bulk of that needs to go to White. If DJ and White can learn to co-exist on the court together we'll be dangerous again.
Another thing that has been on my mind is Demar Derozan's roll on this team. His lack of a 3pt shot hurts the starting line up too much, it doesn't leave enough room for LA to work. Watching Demar in the playoffs pass up on open 3s and drive into the teeth of the defense only to kick out to a shooter who was being defended was frustrating, we became so predictable. I know it seems crazy and it probably would never happen, but having Demar come off the bench I think would work wonders for this team. DDR would feast on opposing teams 2nd units if we surround him shooters like Bertans, Forbes, Mills, and Marco. It would open up the floor up the floor for LA and take pressure off of DJ and Derrick in regards to trying to get Demar his shots.
So who would start in place of Demar? I'd go with Lonnie Walker, maybe not right away, but something to work toward. Lonnie already passes the eye test and if left open, I think he'll be a knock down 3pt shooter. It is apparent Walker has all the skills to be an all-star in this league. It would also accelerate his growth which we desperately need from him.
Starting PG: White
Starting SG: Murray
Starting SF: Walker
Starting PF: Gay
Starting C: LA
That would give us 4 guys in starting line up who can all knock down 3s as well as make plays off the dribble. Leaving LA as our 2pt specialist on the starting unit and Demar as the 2pt specialist on the 2nd unit. The defensive implications of this starting line-up are obvious.
If KD departs from Golden State, and barring a situation where the Lakers somehow get Kawhi and AD, I think the door is wide open for our team to make another run. GO SPURS GO
If Walker can stay healthy and keep grinding away I think he will make a huge impact on this team.
Looking for link but read that Rockets going after Rudy gay for potential starter
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Originally Posted by Duncan87
Why the hell would any player want to be starting with that black hole? Bust your ass for 82 games and then watch that bearded dick dribble away possessions in the playoffs?
I think they've got something like $120M committed, so I don't know how they think they're going to pull it off, but if he actually wanted to play there, he should probably do it.
I get the feeling that Lamarcus , Belinelli, and Bertans will be on the trading block this summer .. and Rudy Gay may leave in free agency ... just a feeling
For those interested, Tyreke Evans career is over violating the drug policy.
He got caught after their season was over :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by tbdog
Powell turns down his 10.2M player option in Dallas to become a FA
What a dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbdog
Frank Ntilikana reportedly wants a trade from the Knicks.
Like, doesn't everybody?
I'd easily take him for #29, if they'd do the deal. He was a major prospect in 2017, is a 6'6"X7'0" PG who can guard multiple positions, is still not quite 21, and is on a rookie deal with team control for two more years. That's a reclamation/development project worth taking on. His career seems to be on a near identical track to Mudiay, who, coincidentally bumped him out of NY's rotation last year. Mudiay was the #7 overall pick that Denver threw in the towel with after two + seasons. Ntilikina was the #8 overall pick that NY seems to be throwing in the towel with after two seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indianman
Denver got the corpse of Devin Harris, plus an exchange of second rounders in a three way trade when they dumped Mudiay.
The post says he (the player) wants a trade, not sure if the Knicks have gotten to the point they are ready to move on from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Ntilikina has been amazingly bad. I know it's the Knicks, and I know that stats don't always tell the whole story. But his numbers are off the charts bad. To the point that it's fair to say that he's been the worst rotation player in the league. (Don't count guys who only get spot minutes.) It's hard to see past numbers that bad. Maybe he'd look better on another team. Maybe. But not enough better to spend a first round pick on him
Mudiay was just as horrible, and actually put up good numbers this past season for NY, 14.8p/3.9a/3.3r on 45% shooting. Look at his earlier numbers. They sucked as bad as Ntilikina's. PGs sometimes need some seasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeusWillJudge
One hidden stat was that as a rookie, Ntilikina had the best PnR PPP against (0.65) in the league, just ahead of Jrue Holiday. He's an ELITE PnR defender in a PnR league. An article I read also said that he may have another inch to grow, taking him up to 6'7".
there were rumors that the Spurs were interested in Ntilikina at the beginning of last season when the defense had more holes than swiss cheese. I don't see how we need another PG prospect though, especially one who can't shoot. We have to many guards on the roster already. What we need is SF/PFs who can defend and shoot the 3.
:bobo
Marc Berman of the NYPost:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ocotillo
"Ntilikina, who suffered through an injury-marred second season, will likely be shopped on draft night as the Knicks look to add another selection — either late in the first round or early in the second.
Ndiaye denied to The Post speculation Ntilikina, who is currently in France, changed agents because of his status or that he wants to be traded.
“I can just tell you that the fact he was not traded has nothing to do with this change of agent,” Ndiaye said. “Frank is extremely happy to be part of the Knicks.”
The motivation to trade Ntilikina for a pick is saving $5 million in cap space that would ensure being able to exercise team options on Damyean Dotson and Allonzo Trier.
The Post first reported the Knicks will look to move Ntilikina. The Frenchman could be eager for a fresh start after being drafted in 2017 by Phil Jackson, who was fired days later."
Not sure I'm willing to hand the knicks assets for Ntilikina. For that player and to eat that $5 million or so, I would want them to send me assets...
If DD would put his pride aside, then this could really help the team. I like this a lot. Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsn
Rumor has it that he's 6'7" now. He can also most definitely defend up a position or two. Watched him stone both PG and RW in an MLK day game. Why not as a SF position conversion reclamation project? We've got the shot doctor on staff, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford
Guys, this is half of "buy low, sell high". It's unnerving to grab someone who hasn't done shit other than defend at a high level, so far. No one knows if he can be turned into a complete NBA player, but if anyone can' it would be the Spurs. This is very much a shit draft, so if you're going to take a flyer on an unknown quantity, this #29 is probably less valuable than any in the last 10 years.
This. If it were August, then they may be able to get an asset for him. But teams will be tightening the screws on the Knicks knowing every penny is valuable to them in July.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
Plus, I’d rather take a flyer on 29 and pay him $1.7 or so a year for each of the first years and a reasonable amount for year 4. A pick is always more valuable before a selection is made, as there’s optionality.
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Well I'll take your word for the PnR defense. I don't know if there's more to the story, but that's what the numbers say, so okay. That would be the first bright spot I've seen on him.
I just happened to be digging into who the worst player in the league were, and his name kept popping up on every search. I'm not going to bust his balls over this season, because of the injuries. But if you look at last season - players with at least 1,000 minutes played who had an EFG% lower than .420? There's only one - Ntilikina. He played 1,700 minutes, so it's not a small sample size. Maybe they gave him minutes because of the defense, but I think they were mostly just trying to allow him to develop.
He had an ORTG of 89. Eighty-fucking-nine. He played 43 games and 904 minutes this year, and had an ORTG of 88.And if you start looking at advanced stats, it just keeps going like that. Mudiay was bad, but even he wasn't that bad. I really can't say more than that, because I never followed either one of them (and I hope I never do). But if Mudiay was able to improve his numbers in NY, and Ntilikina can't, I'm not sure how that argues in favor of Ntilikina being worthwhile.
I'm not sure he can play the sf position but, if he can I'd do it. I'd also do it if I were moving White or Murray in a package to move up in the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Mudiay was drafted in 2015, and took 2.5 years in the oven to "bake" into a playable PG. Ntilikina was drafted in 2017. This would be his 3rd season. TBH, he may not break out this year. It took Chauncey Billups longer than that. He didn't shoot 40% from the field until year 4, and was roundly considered a bust, and he went to a major college program for 3 years, entering the NBA at 21. A future six time All Star was on the edge of busting out of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeusWillJudge
Bad adviceQuote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
I mean if they take Belli and a 2nd then OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by CGD
No, I hear you. Some guys develop late. I'm telling you, though, I was doing all kinds of searches for the worst of the worst, and Ntilikina's name kept popping up at or near the top of them. He was abysmally bad, and it's not just his shooting. MaybeQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Ntilikina will improve. I wouldn't bet a first round pick on it. More to the point, I think the Spurs can draft someone who will be better in two years than Ntilikina will be. And Ntilikina is going to cost $12M over the next two years.
We're going to have to disagree about Billups, though. He played more than 2,000 minutes his rookie season, and shot over .400 on his 2-pointers. It was his 3's that drug his overall FG% down early in his career. He got to the line a good amount, and shot something like 85% from the line. Then he got injured, and wound up having shoulder surgery. He had a rough start to his career, but at his worst he was not even in the ballpark with how bad Ntilikina has played.
The Bucks lost today, fuck
Fucking Raptors
I like the idea as a reclamation project but not for the 29th pick. I could see him playing the 3 also. I don’t know what else besides the pick the Knicks would want though.Quote:
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Brooklyn SpursQuote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
I like Keselj, Singleton, Dangubic, Toupane and Thanasis
Thanasis Antetokounmpo has better form on his jumpshot than both Giannis and Kostas. Has good size for a SF and has the speed/power to guard 1-4.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Wouldn't be the first time the Spurs signed a player from Euroleague, I wonder if they would consider any of these players.
Of course the Spurs also own the rights to Dangubic - could this be the year he comes over?
When will we know more about “sacrificial lamb’s” extension talks? Is there a deadline? That’s the move to watch in my opinion.
HOTS
That’s actually really cool graph. Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Parker!
:bobo Those last two Spurs playoff runs with Pau Gasol put him ahead of Steve Nash :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
report from The Philadelphia Inquirer's Keith Pompey.The 76ers are adding to their player development assistant-coach lineup by bringing in Cameron Hodges from a similar position with the San Antonio Spurs. He’ll join the team after his three-year tenure with the Spurs concludes at the end of the month.Hodges is expected to work out with a variety of players, including All-Star point guard Ben Simmons, whose outside shooting has been a weakness since his rookie NBA season.
Hate to see staff go. A lot of our coporate knowledge is spread around the NBA now. As long as we got Chip we goodQuote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
Damn, Ime got poached by Brett Brown that a-hole
After Brown didn’t trade for Kawhi and hurt SA in the process he poaches Ime SMH. This dude better do SA a favor soon.
He'll take paddy away from SpursQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
*Praying dog .gif
Celtics could have traded Jaylen Brown to Spurs as centerpiece for Kawhi Leonard
Dan Feldman
NBC SportsJune 7, 2019, 6:26 PM UTC
Don't know if this story has been posted on ST, but here's an after the fact of a possibility of what could have been if the Celtics would have traded Jalen Brown and the possibility of Marcus Smart, as trade prospects for #2, and to add possible future draft picks. But the Spurs instead, wanted to remain competitive and preferred to look to trade for a veteran player instead, to fulfill this idea. Oh well... Unsure at this point if the link for the story was pasted onto this post or not, but it was posted on Yahoo Sports.
the Celtics didn’t want to trade Brown and they regret it, they never made a good offer to the spurs it seemsQuote:
Originally Posted by Larry O
Toronto raping Golden State right now, hahahahah
Warriors folding to the pressure
Curry praying to the Curry gods, hahahahahahaha
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!!!!!!
Golden State finally defeated hahahahahhaha
The answer to MJ Bulls vs Curry Warriors is now revealed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordan and the Bulls WOULD OBLITERATE TORONTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Period. End of debate.
THE SPURS HAVE WON THE NBA TITLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because the Spurs trained Kawhi, which means the Spurs get the credits, lol
Curry very sad, hahahahahahhahaha
Its the end of the reign, lol
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo
Wrong thread! Go to the kawhi threadQuote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
Brown wasn’t the GM. He’s only the coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
cool graph. not big on raw stats though, would prefer scoring efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Brown was running things last summer after Colangelo got busted and before Brand got hired during training camp, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Good to see a Spur at the top of the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDomination
Now that David Griffin in NOLA has given frame works to teams looking to trade for AD you have to wonder if there is any way to participate with a down stream portion of the deal to carve out an asset.
“Hi I’m AD, I want out of NO because I don’t think they are competent enough to build a winner or make good decisions. I would like to go the Knicks or Lakers. Especially after seeing how much success Lebron had there.”
Scumbag wanted out of the winningest franchise of the past 2 decades, a team that was still top 2-3 when he last choose to play for them, to go to L.A. and look at the predicament both were in a year ago and one is still in. He also had no interest in joining a Raptors team that was clearly going to be a top 2-3 team . . . yet I don't remember him being questioned about wanting to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Davis supposedly wants to go to one of the 2 biggest markets for the same reasons most of these groupthink divas do: because they've been told by hangers on and talking heads that they should want to for basically their entire lives. That it would boost their brand/profile and somehow be more meaningful to win there.
Agree but the Clippers have been run much better recently and Kawhi already has a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
They were not in a great spot 1-1.5 years ago when we first started hearing this and why should he be content with 1 (that was won as a role player)?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
The reality is, most of these divas only really care about winning if they can do so on their terms.
Davis isn't any more marketable than Kawhi. They both have the personality of a scarecrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Pop should do what's best for the team, trade himself for a lottery pick.
Is there a world where:Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
- AD goes to LAL
- DDR + #6 (via Lonzo trade to PHX) + Kuz to NOLA
- 4 and Caproom comes to SAS
I think technically AD would be going in to LAL’s space so SAS doesn’t have to take back salary, no? NOLA would meet goal of established player, pick, and young prospect.
Hard to say...depends on what Griffin wants but if so I imagine we'd get #6 and NOLA gets #4Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
How's the draft in the 4-6 range this year? Any blue chippers? I am only aware of Zion as a sure-shot star in the top 6. Haven't followed the draft much this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
I would think we would target Hunter or ReddishQuote:
Originally Posted by Gamechannel
The KD Achilles tear could have a huge impact on the offseason. He could very well opt in on his option and read in the bay leaving teams who cleared cap space scrambling. It could inflate the market for DDR or Aldridge.
Those poor teams lol :lmao so many prepared to have cap space this offseason and honestly I could see most of main free agents staying where they are. I do think Kyrie leaves Boston and AD gets traded but the rest of the main Free agents I could see staying putQuote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Just means out of the bubble players like Vuc, Middleton, and Harris get max offers and Magic, Bucks and 76ers would have to consider letting them go. Also Walker and Klay will get max by many teams. And both teams would have to probably offer the 5th year to keep them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Degoat
:lmao If Knicks blow their cash on Jimmy Butler and Cousins.
Better trade a couple of Mavs picks for DDR instead.
This is just blog speculating and throwing shit out there.
https://pelicandebrief.com/2019/06/1...ny-davis-deal/
Pelicans Rumors: Could Spurs get in on Anthony Davis deal?
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Trading for Anthony Davis may be the organization’s next big gamble, but moving on from one of their stars is an option for the always ahead of the curve Spurs. They could potentially trade for Davis, or act as a third team benefiting by facilitating.
The Spurs could package at least two, if not all three, of Lonnie Walker IV (19), Dejounte Murray (22), and Derrick White (24) to New Orleans for Davis. Murray and White could develop into better players than any offered by LA or New York. All three players are between 20 and 24 years old.
These players could be re-routed to a third teams as well. This package would include future picks. Murray, Walker, and White could be dealt for first round picks later, should they prove redundant in the Pelicans’ lineup.
It is unlikely all three young guards are sent to the same team. The Spurs could use their young assets to find a third star for Aldridge and DeRozan. That third team to be named later would have a third wheel star on a contract the Pelicans refuse.
Gordon Hayward would fit the description, for an example from an interested party. So would a couple of guys from Portland. The NBA off-season could get really weird (imagine if DeRozan gets shipped back to Toronto).
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Spurs should at least ask about AD, but they should package one of Aldridge or DeRozan with both draft picks and one of the young guards or Bertans. Trading all 3 would be stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
I agree, we should definitely put in an offer. I'd give Griffin his choice of DDR or LMA + any one of our young guards + #19 + either #29 or our #1 in 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford
We've gotta get Chad Forcier back. He helped develop players real well.
Good point. On the other hand, it means some team is going to overpay Bojan Bogdanovic.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
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So long as it's not us...Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Ironic that the top two FAs this summer are both damaged goods.
Amen to thatQuote:
Originally Posted by pad300
Yeah if he opts in that is going to screw GS they pretty much paying him 31 million to rehab for one year. Which if I was him I would do that and then hit free market and sign max deal with another team.
There will be teams willing to pay him to rehab just to get him under multi-year contract. I think the only team this knocks out are the LAL. They are way too invested in "win now".Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
If I were him I'd put pressure through the media on gs to offer me the full 5 year max because I put it all kn the line for my team. I think the fans would put pressure on them to do that. Make gs look bad if they don't offer and kill their cap space and luxury payments of they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome