Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
Intresting. People picking robinson over peak timmy. Peak timmy was quick and ahtletic and was an absolute champions tbh.
But so was Robinson. Peak Robinson vs. Peak Timmy is a push/personal preference to me.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
C: 2003 Robinson/2014 Timmy (12 pts)
PF: Robert Horry/Davis Bertans (3 pts)
SF: Peak Danny/Sean Elliott (8 pts)
SG: Brent Barry/Peak Patty (4 pts)
PG: George Hill/Derrick White (4 pts)
Not sure who would start or what the rotations would be. It would be a luxury to have either Peak David or Peak Timmy, but even 2003 David and 2014 Timmy would feast on the Dubs' bigs. I am happy mixing and matching all 4 bigs depending on the Dub's team on the floor and also happy with mixing and matching Peak Danny/Sean Elliott/Brent Barry. I really wanted a Peak Manu or Peak Tony, but I didn't like the dropoff for their backups, so I opted for what I think is a balanced committee approach. Pre-shoulder injury Patty was a great spark, and would have been great to have this season.
One of the best threads of this season. :toast I don't know how long it took you to figure this out, but thanks for the brain-teaser. It was amazing to see what a difference 1 point makes, either way.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
Been saying the same thing. :lol
Peak Duncan
FMVP Kawhi
2014 Tony
2014 Manu
2017 Danny
White
And a bunch of 1 points :lol
:lol just some old schoolers being cute with their peak David because dude can run :lol duh
I like your list tbh.. need some Boris in there imho. Basically you take most of the 2014 beautiful game roster and peak Duncan and you are set.
I'd argue that the 2014 squad would be enough anyway
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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sasaint
C: 2003 Robinson/2014 Timmy (12 pts)
PF: Robert Horry/Davis Bertans (3 pts)
SF: Peak Danny/Sean Elliott (8 pts)
SG: Brent Barry/Peak Patty (4 pts)
PG: George Hill/Derrick White (4 pts)
Not sure who would start or what the rotations would be. It would be a luxury to have either Peak David or Peak Timmy, but even 2003 David and 2014 Timmy would feast on the Dubs' bigs. I am happy mixing and matching all 4 bigs depending on the Dub's team on the floor and also happy with mixing and matching Peak Danny/Sean Elliott/Brent Barry. I really wanted a Peak Manu or Peak Tony, but I didn't like the dropoff for their backups, so I opted for what I think is a balanced committee approach. Pre-shoulder injury Patty was a great spark, and would have been great to have this season.
One of the best threads of this season. :toast I don't know how long it took you to figure this out, but thanks for the brain-teaser. It was amazing to see what a difference 1 point makes, either way.
I like the defensive potential but imo it lacks perimtter firepower. Unless you're planning on going 4 down all day everyday, that team is going to struggle creating shots from the pick and roll.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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Brazil
:lol just some old schoolers being cute with their peak David because dude can run :lol duh
I like your list tbh.. need some Boris in there imho. Basically you take most of the 2014 beautiful game roster and peak Duncan and you are set.
I'd argue that the 2014 squad would be enough anyway
Actually my list is flawed. Injist realized i would end up with 32 pts.
Man those 1 pointer makes a huge difference :lol
How about
C - Peak Tiago - Rasho 5pts
PF - FMVP Kawhi - Rudy Gay
SF - Peak Danny - Richard Jefferson
SG - Peak Manu - Beno Udrich
PG - Peak Tony - Speedy Claxton.
I hate to leave duncan and Robinson out, but after thinking about this for long. This is the kind of team thats equiped to beat Golden State.
Tiago Pnrs with Tony and Manu, defensive beast trio in Tiago, Danny, Kawhi.
Thats the only way you can have three star players and still have rook for two elite role players.
Hmm. Maybe.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
I like the defensive potential but imo it lacks perimtter firepower. Unless you're planning on going 4 down all day everyday, that team is going to struggle creating shots from the pick and roll.
I started out concentrating on defense. But Horry/Peak Danny are superior spot-up 3-pt shooters. Brent, George and Derrick are also decent threats. In the PnR, I think Derrick can be special. George is pretty good and even Brent can operate in PnR, although all 3 are probably better just driving and dishing. But, whether they come in PnR or through other sets with off-ball screens and/or driving and dishing, I would expect this squad to score enough that, coupled with great defense, they could take the Dubs.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
All the starting 5 are young.
Only older dude in that list is rudy gay but hes playing PF anyway and probably play 5 minutes at most.
My minutes allocation will probably be
Tiago 36 Mins - Rasho 12
Kawhi 40 - Gay 6
Danny 40 - Jefferson 10
Manu 40 - Beno 6
Tony 40 - Speedy 10
Lots of minutes for the starters but man thats a scary team.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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sasaint
I started out concentrating on defense. But Horry/Peak Danny are superior spot-up 3-pt shooters. Brent, George and Derrick are also decent threats. In the PnR, I think Derrick can be special. George is pretty good and even Brent can operate in PnR, although all 3 are probably better just driving and dishing. But, whether they come in PnR or through other sets with off-ball screens and/or driving and dishing, I would expect this squad to score enough that, coupled with great defense, they could take the Dubs.
Geroge and Brent can do pnrs but they cant really drive consistently to the basket. I thinm an issure that might occur here is that Warriors will just sag off against brents and George limited threat driving.
None of Derrick, Brent, George have the complete PnR repertoire. Either they are poor at 3s or average at driving.
I mean their level is acceptble but imo against the warriors you need elite pnr. Imo.
Maybe go for
2017 Danny - Peak Manu
Over
Sean - Peak Danny?
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
Geroge and Brent can do pnrs but they cant really drive consistently to the basket. I thinm an issure that might occur here is that Warriors will just sag off against brents and George limited threat driving.
None of Derrick, Brent, George have the complete PnR repertoire. Either they are poor at 3s or average at driving.
I mean their level is acceptble but imo against the warriors you need elite pnr. Imo.
Maybe go for
2017 Danny - Peak Manu
Over
Sean - Peak Danny?
George is an excellent career 3pt shooter. He would make a sagging defense pay. I like the perimeter firepower, but that's why I picked Bertans over Gay at PF and added Peak (pre-shoulder injury) Patty. What do you consider Peak Danny? 2013/14? Without looking at the stats, I think there is a big dropoff from 2014 to 2017 Danny. Also, what is Peak Manu? Seems like during his prime (as distinct from peak) he always had injuries that kept him from really reaching a consistent/maintained peak. Besides, Manu is not an outside threat and probably better at just driving and dishing than actual PnR. Whereas Peak (2014) Danny was a deadly/fearless 3-ball shooter.
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2005 Manu is what I would consider Peak Manu.
2017 Danny was lazy only situationally. I think its great value evause around good players 2017 Danny van turn into raptors danny.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
2005 Manu is what I would consider Peak Manu.
2017 Danny was lazy only situationally. I think its great value evause around good players 2017 Danny van turn into raptors danny.
Lol! I almost asked if Raptors Danny was available as Peak Danny!
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
2005 Manu is what I would consider Peak Manu.
2017 Danny was lazy only situationally. I think its great value evause around good players 2017 Danny van turn into raptors danny.
true, 2017 Danny stepped up in the playoffs. Especially in Game 5 against Houston. That's a high quality role player
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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Nivek_ogre
Peak Robinson was from 91- 96. Is that the player available? If so then he shits all over the warriors. And fuck that nonsense about choking in the playoffs. When Avery Johnson and Vinny del negro are your backcourt then you are over achieving by getting out of the first round.
Even if we refrain from saying anything negative about Robinson, there's no doubt that Duncan was the more clutch player. Whenever we needed a bucket or a stop, he just delivered. And his ability to quarterback the offense from the low post (sucking in defenders like a gravitational force, and then kicking out to shooters with perfect timing) is more valuable than what Robinson does.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
Actually my list is flawed. Injist realized i would end up with 32 pts.
Man those 1 pointer makes a huge difference :lol
How about
C - Peak Tiago - Rasho 5pts
PF - FMVP Kawhi - Rudy Gay
SF - Peak Danny - Richard Jefferson
SG - Peak Manu - Beno Udrich
PG - Peak Tony - Speedy Claxton.
I hate to leave duncan and Robinson out, but after thinking about this for long. This is the kind of team thats equiped to beat Golden State.
Tiago Pnrs with Tony and Manu, defensive beast trio in Tiago, Danny, Kawhi.
Thats the only way you can have three star players and still have rook for two elite role players.
Hmm. Maybe.
No, you keep both Robinson and Duncan as they give you a huge advantage defensively shutting down easy baskets inside. GS is not winning chucking up 3s all series.
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
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apalisoc_9
You have 31pts to create a team of 10. You cannot choose the dame player ( different versions)
10pts
Peak Kawhi
Stopped reading right about here
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
Just one powerful combo:
Starters
PG - 2014 Parker - 4 pts
SG - Peak Manu - 6 pts
SF - Peak Bowen - 4 pts
PF - Peak Timmy - 10 pts
C - Rasho - 1 pt
Bench
PG - Gary Neal - 1 pt
SG - 2003 Steve Kerr - 1 pt
SF - Rudy Gay - 1 pt
PF - Robert Horry - 2 pts
C - Davis Bertans - 1 pt
Would have loved to put Nazr and Diaw too :(
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
How much is 2003 Pop worth?
Re: You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present
Peak Manu (6 pts)
2014 GOAT (6 pts)
2014 snake (6 pts)
Peak Danny (4 pts)
Boris Diaw (4 pts)
Robert Horry (2 pts)
Derrick White (2 pts)
Rudy Gay (1 pt)
2003 Pop