There will be a lot of negative comments here, but I am looking forward to next season. I think our youngsters will be even more experienced. We will be ready to go again!
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There will be a lot of negative comments here, but I am looking forward to next season. I think our youngsters will be even more experienced. We will be ready to go again!
It'll be nice having some perimeter defense again with Dejounte back. Hopefully Pop and Gay return and Forbes becoming a sixth man gives the Spurs bench some firepower. A competent swingman would be nice with the MLE too.
Spurs will need to draft well and sign reclamation projects and G-Leaguers, hope somebody pans out
first round exit again if we’re lucky
Don't be. This team is full of losers and a coach who can't get out of his own way. Fuck these clowns.
Very limited amount of talent. Not much to be exited. Turning into a San Antonio pistons.
Which swingmen do you have in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Looking forward to the draft & what players we can get to upgrade the roster! Montejunas will know the system more & will probably help this team next year!
LOL @ keeping Montejunas.
I don't see him back with the team next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy
Me either. He can already see an easy ring with the dubs, who are in need of a big sub.
Hell if I know :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Uriel
Its really going to be interesting to see what this roster looks like going forward. With the draft picks and D. Murray coming back, there is going to be quite a bit of youth on this team.
Sorry, BB, ain't gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Forbes is in his own lane when it comes to the young guys.
White, Walker and DJ will compete with each other, but not with Forbes . . .
For a minute there, you had me going . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy
Trade LMA and get rid of DDR
A team with no all stars won't do much. Next year is a trip to the lottery.
People talk like Murry is some type of star who is going to save the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
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Originally Posted by rascal
Should have been this year.
Like I've said before, as long as LMA is a main option meaning 1st or 2nd option Spurs are not title contenders. Spurs can still be title contenders with LMA on the team but only if he is 3rd or 4th option. Spurs need at least 2 to 3 players on the team to be better than LMA. I will not be attending another game until he is off the team or a 3rd or 4th go to guy.
I'm super excited for next season also. I think the team can and will be a whole lot better with just a small bit of moves and the young players maturing even more. I think Marco is going to end up getting moved and I wouldn't be surprised if Murray with one of those draft picks is traded so we could move up in the draft to get the guy Pop and RC thinks could help the team immediately.
If there are no trades to move up in the draft I still think we can find some quality role players to help this team be better. I honestly think Lonnie Walker is going to get more minutes than what a lot of people on this site thinks he is going to get and I think he is going to play well.
I’m sure the Spurs are shaking in their boots at you not going to your one annualQuote:
Originally Posted by C-Dub
Game with an upper deck ticket.
Excited for a potential White/Murray starting lineup and Walker/Forbes coming off the bench. Idk if it's gonna work out 100% like that but we have young talent and the defense should really take a step up especially if we use our 19th pick correctly.
Gay may have to take a hometown discount to be re-signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
PATFO probably sees him as standing in the way of some of the youngsters -- DJ, White, Walker.
One or more of those guys will likely see some time at the 3 spot. They are the future at that position.
Gay has said he's a "Spur for life." He may have to prove it by taking a bit less to stay . . .
Ready to move on from Patty, Marco, Rudy, Cunningham, Poindexter, and DDR. LMA is in the doghouse, but is the only vet left that can score consistently. Need to let loose and see what Walker and Bertans can really do with significant minutes.
Lol...pop seeing a veteran standing in front of young talent? Was that really typed? Has that thought ever gone through his head? Just curious
Rocalcio with the truth nukesQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
If snake leaves the Warriors and C.Paul starts declining as fast as i think he will, we might have a shot but seeing LMA and Dechokezan on the roster gives me cause to pause.
Got to get rid of DDR-he drags the whole team down like Jefferson
Get rid of Patty.
Find two 6' 7" dudes who are tough, play d and can hit a stand still three and maybe dribble a bit-then you got a good team
DDR is the problem-the stench around him is defeating
Spurs will make the playoffs again as a low seed, which is a fine accomplishment, can't let Pop be in the lottery in his last years, would be shameful..
Seeing some rumble that Aminu could be had for the full MLE. He can play 3/4 (and possibly defend 1/2) and small ball 5, right?
I think we've seen the best of Aldridge this season. I don't think he's played any better, ever!!
When he does put his mind to it on defense, he does well. Witness last quarter against Jokic.
DeRozan is only in the first season. He's got an entire summer to fix his game.
Spurs have 2 1st round drafts.
There are a ton of good role players becoming free agents.
The honest truth is Spurs have better chance next year than this year (this is despite the weak playoff schedule the Spurs were gifted with).
Even if Walker breaks out like White did this year there will still be good minutes playing four for Gay. What I'm more concerned with is dumping one of Mills or Belinelli so Murray, White, and Forbes can play most of the guard minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ
Danatas will not be back. Enjoy more scared Rudy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy
:pctossQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
After watching him shoot a free throw I am cool with him not coming back.
I'm with you on all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
DeMar had the most efficient season of his career...which is sad since we still saw plenty of moments where he was either chucking away needlessly or letting the refs get in his head. He has the most value on the market, but also has an albatross of a contract to move.
Patty is still getting paid on a good series that he had 5 years ago. I don't care how nice of a guy he is, he can't defend or pass, and his three-pointer has abandoned him. 2014 was great and all, but...GTFO. Please trade him while he still has some value. Same goes with Beli, tbh.
Gay CAN be the Spurs x-factor....but that only happens like 40% of the time. You never know what you are going to get. On the fence with him coming back.
Dante and Pondy are obvious outs. Total waste of space on the bench, not sure what the FO was thinking.
Keep LMA, get a legitimate 2nd star next to him, and hope Murray comes back strong next year. The rest can work itself out.
Some Spurstalk fans have set their expectations at competing for a championship. If that’s what your expectations are you’re guaranteed to be bitching next season. Realistically teams can be divided into three groups, true potential championship contenders like this year GS, Bucks, Toronto, Houston, teams with unrealistic hopes of championships like Boston, Philly, those many that hope that are on the rise to contenders like Denver, Clips, Sac and finally those that are striving to get into the playoffs and hoping for their young players to show significant progress. Spurs fall into the last group with probably a higher level of making the playoffs to many in that group. Best outcome is a good draft relative to position and continued development of Murray, White and Walker.
I agree about above being realistic about the roster. The Spurs play in the West and teams with more talent like the Lakers, Wolves, Pelicans never had a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
We all wish that the Spurs can bring back the 2014 beautiful game, but it isn't easy to find that kind of talent!
The closest thing the Spurs could have been is the Toronto Raptors. But they had the benefit of drafting much earlier than the Spurs. The Raptors play the same deliberate game as the Spurs but with the talent to make it really far.
I really haven't seen anything that would keep me optimistic for next season. Optimistic for what? winning 40 games? making the #8 seed? Surely it isn't because the Spurs are going to the finals.
It has been a long time since I've seen the Spurs team playing such a discombobulated BB - no passing - just bad, ugly shit. And the demeanor was even worse. It reminded me of the Phoenix series when the Spurs lost to Dragic. Last 30 seconds yesterday showed you everything you need to know about this roster.
No, I'm sorry, I called it when people here were saying "this is the easiest bracket"... The Spurs are entering rebuilding mode now that we know LMA and DDR will not be franchise players ever. The Spurs got fucked in the ass by nephew and that's pretty much it.
So no optimistic at all but hoping that somehow they get lucky.
Whoever we draft will not upgrade the roster until 2020-21 at the earliest under Pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy
I counted 4 groups, but you got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
During all of the iterations over the last 20+ years, the Spurs played with intelligence, effort and focus. This year's team rarely exhibited all 3 at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurOutofTownFan
Low expectations just hoping to see White,Murray,Walker all get a lot of minutes. I think those 3 could be exciting to watch. Also waiting to see who they draft with their two picks.
Honestly, if we had Manu in the roster in the playoffs, we would have won against the Nuggets. Manu gave up on the talent of this team too early.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
On the other hand, Manu was playing only to win another time. He played last year expecting Kawhi to be back. Never happened. He knew to odds.
I would take Manu NEXT season over Dumbmar.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Yeah, but we are stuck with DeRozan. This team doesn't have superstars, we have players that are paid like superstars but at best good players in the regular season.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
Gay is the star with the most talent, but he's falling to pieces. He just lost all his mobility and quickness.
Durant is gone to Knicks or wherever. Green has regressed. I don’t really see them being dominant anymore especially after the Clips series. I think Pop will prepare for Nuggets, depending Jokic. It’s another version of Nowitzki, and now we don’t have Timmy. We can continue developing Poeltl as defender. He is long, active and great bball IQ. Guarding that pick and roll with combinations of DJ/White and Lonnie should be okay. Spurs need a Baynes as insurance. I don’t know if DMo it is. Spurs should be above Utah, OKC, Blazers. Clippers could be good with their salary break and West on the helm, and the owner is like Cuban who will not spare on anything. Lakers will be there also. I really don’t think they would waste LeBron’s talent. Kings will be good but I don’t see them as better than Spurs. Regardless, Spurs will be in the mix, maybe 2nd or even first defending on Dubs and how we PATFO play their cards.
Manu would have never let these players not foul in the last 30s. He would have smacked the shit out of their bat facesQuote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Manu might have slapped Wombat and Beli for not playing defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by SpurOutofTownFan
Nice of you to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Dub
However, with so many PATFO slurpers, doubtful LMA and his role will be changed one iota by Popped.
The real Rocalcio would never say such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
This...Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
It was awful to watchQuote:
Originally Posted by John B
Im not especially with our big3 mills,ddr,lma returning
Offseason moves:
- Re-sign Gay
- Get rid of Cunningham, Pondexter, and Montejunas
- Use MLE to sign Milutinov and 3-and-D swingman
- Use first round picks on a big and a wing
2020 Roster:
C - Poeltl, Milutinov, 1st round pick
PF - Aldridge, Bertans, 3-and-D Swingman
SF - DeRozan, Gay, 1st round pick
SG - White, Forbes, Bellinelli
PG - Murray, Mills, Walker
Considering the west is likely to be GS with or without KD, Houston, a stronger Lebron team, and a Kawhi+Clippers team...Quote:
Originally Posted by Genovaswitness
Once we get Murray back, see more of Lonnie and with White / Forbes continuing to improve, we will be a lot more fast paced, not unlike the Bucks prior to this year.
Forcing more turnovers and running more fast breaks. Assuming, DDR, LMA and Gay are still here, the half court offensive will flow through them.
We just never had a consistency with our offense this year as it depended on our shots falling. Running more should provide us with another route to scoring.
Not excited for next season
Younger better players benched for the sake of scrub bums
Soft, mentally weak losers leading the team in shots and usage
Regular season wins just to find out which key mistakes are necessary to lose in the playoffs
It's just going to be crap
Sorry for the spoilers
Is Milutinov even playable in today's NBA?
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Sad thing is without choking this season still going
Not from what I've seen of his highlights. So called.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusternino
Lack of hops is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDuncan
Can he, you know, switch on the PnR?
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Originally Posted by Fusternino
Even if he was playable, would it even matter? It's not like he'd get minutes anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusternino
Fwiw, moving on the pick and roll was a strength of his at the lower European levels when he was drafted. Since moving up in competition to the Euroleague as a starter, not so much. Whether that's the scheme or being heavier or better competition, I don't know.
For the NBA, I'd say worse than Poeltl, better than Pau.
Hmmm . . . maybe time to draft Bol Bol if he falls to us and Duombouya doesn't.
I'm excited.
I truly hope our health is better next year.
Off-season seems more exciting tbh
LMA as a first option?? U guys simply want to make the playoffs, then? Not aspire to win a ring? GochaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dex
I agree with this take. I hope Rudy does come back on a decent deal because he played well for us. Marco or Patty needs to be moved because they are too one dimensional and the good dimension they bring is too inconsistent against quality opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I've been speaking loudly about how I think Lonnie is gonna have a break out barring injuries next season and I hope RC and Pop do the smart thing and get Marco on another team
Recruit Durant.
And end all miseries......
Um, Terry Porter/Antonio Daniels "in front of" Parker, Jefferson/Jackson "in front of" Leonard or Gasol in front of Poeltl this past season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackhaus
Do you idiots think before you type your drivel or what?
Anyway, I'm excited for next season as well. Now, it is contingent on Pop making some sacrifices on the roster (jettisoning Mills, Belinelli and/or Pondexter) but making a smart move or two could propel this team back up the standing.
Getting bigger, stronger, more athletic, versatile and defensive minded on the wings should be the biggest priority.
Can Ben Moore crack a main roster spot after two seasons in the G League? Will we see major growth in the games of Poeltl, White and Walker? Can Murray fully recover and be a better contributor on offense? Will Pop/R.C. package the two 1st round picks or use them to better the team and add more young, "hungry" talent?
Walker isn't a PG and Beli needs to go, period. That ship has sailed and the team needs more defense (even if a flier on a veteran like Sefolosha or Corey Brewer).Quote:
Originally Posted by Uriel
I'm excited for next season.
Spurs won't be a contender at all but that's ok. It's funny to me how fans insist on living missery and frustration just beacause their team won't be fighting for winning the championship. Have a live boys
Aldridge looks totally fine despite his age, DeRozan can only be better after a his first season here and hopefully some shooting improvement with Spurs coaches. We've got White, Murray and Walker and they all will play minutes next season. I enjoy Bertan's game and I'm even starting to respect Brynn Forbes.
There will be changes in the secondary players and these can improve notably the team. I expect PATFO to do a much better job balancing the roster. Of course we will have some bad contracts, valuable veterans that nobody likes but help to win, surprising unknown basketball players and a lot of players for the haters to talk trash.
Agree.....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach X
May we draft a surprise one
the frustration is not for that reason, no one believes that the team had title chances, although if the support roster existed (because I can not call Bertans, Mills, Belli, Dante, Quincy from a supporting roster of a playoff team in the west), we could have reached the conference finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach X
the frustration is because neither I, nor you, nor anyone here are sure that this will really happen, and much of this because of the so-called "corporate knowledge"Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach X
It's not your case probably but I believe there are people genuinely expecting the team to contend for the 'ship every single season. I was referring to themQuote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Again, I didn't explain myself well. I was thinking in the replacements for Cunningham, Pondexter, Motiejunas... Mills, Belinelli and Bertans will stay for sure as they are under contract. I would be surprised if Gay isn't offered a contract he accepts. So let's say Spurs make their classic off-season moves. Still there is room for some secondary signings plus the draft kids. Addiotionally, should PATFO decide to make a (minor) trade around the draft night, we would add an interesting player to the roster.Quote:
the frustration is because neither I, nor you, nor anyone here are sure that this will really happen, and much of this because of the so-called "corporate knowledge"
Sorry guys, my English insn't good enough.
That starteting lineup would never work. Not a single three point shooter in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uriel
If only Pop would take Mills and Beli out of the rotation, they could be only a good 3&D guy away from having a pretty solid 10 men rotation for both sides of the ball:
Murray, White, DeRozan, 3&D, Aldridge
Forbes, Walker, Bertans, Gay, Poeltl
I don't see why that type of lineup can't be top 10 in both offense and defense. Unfortunately, we all know Mills and Beli aren't going anywhere.
Also, we need to start shooting more threes. DeRozan needs to go back to his last Toronto season, even if he hits only around 30%, oppossing teams knowing that he will, at least, take the shot helps a lot.
Aldridge needs to put up 1 or 2 per game too, and Murray and White will need to don't pass up any open looks. If you miss, you miss, but at least try.
Then what would your starting lineup be?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Which 3&D players do you have in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Not like that. Murray is our run run point guard, so put Walker with him. That's the speed team. And better if it's the bench, the juice group.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Make the slower group the starters. Also, White and Forbes now have game experience together.
Also, separate DDR and Aldridge. DDR has speed, he can run. Put him with the juice group.
Bertans is not starter material because he doesn't have the muscle mass to defend NBA forwards. And I don't think he can run with the juice group. Maybe. Basically, he's an eleventh man type.
Starters,
White, Forbes, Gay, Aldridge, Poeltl. Half court offense. Good size, the players know each other, and Forbes, White, and Gay all have 3pt credibility, especially Forbes.
Bench,
Murray, Walker, DDR, a new 3&D who can run, and a small-ball center/pf who can run.
Starters Strategy,
Standard Spurs half-court offense for the starters, good ball movement, look for the open man, etc. Stout defense.
Bench strategy,
Go high octane hell for leather, and try to blast the opposing team's bench right off the court, especially when the opposing bench is slow.
Looks interesting on paper. All plans do.
Wouldn't mind getting rid of DDR, Aldridge and the rest of those worthless vets (including Patty).
Mills and Belinelli for Covington would be my dream scenario, but I know it won't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uriel