Within' the last few weeks, a new poster or alt claimed (might have even been in this thread, but I'm not wasting time sifting through it) that the Spurs were looking to move up and he was their target.
Wouldn't be a surprise. Not only fits the big wing need (albeit not the 3 and D style) but fits the background we know they intentionally covet. It's stereotypical, but often true of mixed players, particularly foreign ones: physical tools of black Americans, without the issues that accompanies many of them that's borne of the flawed system they grow up in.
My Argentine is rusty but looks like Lamas is high on Rui.
06-19-2019
exstatic
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by TD 21
Within' the last few weeks, a new poster or alt claimed (might have even been in this thread, but I'm not wasting time sifting through it) that the Spurs were looking to move up and he was their target.
Wouldn't be a surprise. Not only fits the big wing need (albeit not the 3 and D style) but fits the background we know they intentionally covet. It's stereotypical, but often true of mixed players, particularly foreign ones: physical tools of black Americans, without the issues that accompanies many of them that's borne of the flawed system they grow up in.
I think SA is moving up for someone. There's just too much smoke for there to be no fire. Way more talk about it that I've ever heard in the runup to the draft. DeRozan attends USA*Basketball camp last year, just to practice, but this year, with an actual tournament with Medals in September, he's a not going?
06-19-2019
BD24
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Would be pretty pumped if we were able to land him tbh
06-19-2019
timvp
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
That's a fair look at his strengths and weaknesses.
IMO, a lot of his weaknesses are fixable. Pop isn't going to let him disengage defensively or miss wide open teammates.
His tools alone make him a good pick at 19. Internet scouts are low on him (most Big Boards have him somewhere between like 20 and 40) and they all think he can only play PF ... but I think he could possibly play SF and think his ceiling is pretty damn high. He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
06-19-2019
Genovaswitness
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
I see all these other teams trying to get better and we’re offering cripple gay 20 mil a year. fuck PATFO
06-19-2019
Spurs fever
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
I have a feeling we'll all be disappointed tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong.... :(
06-19-2019
gilmor2002
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by timvp
That's a fair look at his strengths and weaknesses.
IMO, a lot of his weaknesses are fixable. Pop isn't going to let him disengage defensively or miss wide open teammates.
His tools alone make him a good pick at 19. Internet scouts are low on him (most Big Boards have him somewhere between like 20 and 40) and they all think he can only play PF ... but I think he could possibly play SF and think his ceiling is pretty damn high. He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
the Kawhi now is virtually being molded by Pop. Pop injects the confidence in him and told him straight in the face that he is the best player in the League.
06-19-2019
FkLA
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by timvp
He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
He'll be Nephew-lite IF he ends up here, imo.
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Originally Posted by BD24
Would be pretty pumped if we were able to land him tbh
I'll buy his jersey tomorrow if we draft him, tbh.
06-19-2019
Collins21
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
If PATFO lands Rui to me that makes up for all the shitty decisions they have made recently. I have a good feeling about this dude and adding him to a core of White, Murray and Walker makes me very excited for the future.
06-19-2019
Blackhaus
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Collins21
If PATFO lands Rui to me that makes up for all the shitty decisions they have made recently. I have a good feeling about this dude and adding him to a core of White, Murray and Walker makes me very excited for the future.
This
06-19-2019
Genovaswitness
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Hachimura comes here and it’s a day 1 jersey buy tbh
06-19-2019
Mugen
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
He's going in the lottery so the Spurs better find a way into the 10-14 range if they actually like him. No way he lasts until 19.
06-19-2019
Mugen
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
He'd be a good fit on any of the teams drafting from 9-15 tbh, gonna be really tough.
06-20-2019
playblair
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by timvp
but I think he could possibly play SF and think his ceiling is pretty damn high. He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
wtf ..........kawhi was a jump shot away from being the best player in his draft its the only reason he dropped..........anyone who watched kawhi at sdsu knew his boards/points/defense double doubles would translate to the nba..................hachimora is a kawhi clone
06-20-2019
Dejounte
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
This dude is overhyped as hell and will be forgotten in four years. Reminds me so much of Rodney Carney who was drafted 15th(?). Kawhi clone? Lmao yall throw that word freely around here.
06-20-2019
phxspurfan
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
lol physical specimen.
The Japanese Tyler Hansbrough. Good in college, won't be shit against NBA competition/athletes
That's a fair look at his strengths and weaknesses.
IMO, a lot of his weaknesses are fixable. Pop isn't going to let him disengage defensively or miss wide open teammates.
His tools alone make him a good pick at 19. Internet scouts are low on him (most Big Boards have him somewhere between like 20 and 40) and they all think he can only play PF ... but I think he could possibly play SF and think his ceiling is pretty damn high. He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
Hate it. Reminds me of westbrook.
06-20-2019
EricB
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
That's a fair look at his strengths and weaknesses.
IMO, a lot of his weaknesses are fixable. Pop isn't going to let him disengage defensively or miss wide open teammates.
His tools alone make him a good pick at 19. Internet scouts are low on him (most Big Boards have him somewhere between like 20 and 40) and they all think he can only play PF ... but I think he could possibly play SF and think his ceiling is pretty damn high. He's not going to be Kawhi ... but, then again, Kawhi wasn't supposed to be Kawhi, either.
His form and jumper at his age area already ahead of where Kawhi was. Defense isn’t, but that’s only because Rui isn’t as offensively challenged as Kawhi. All his weakness can be fixed in the matter of a season or two. This guy is the real deal. Fingers crossed he lands in SA.
06-20-2019
szkorhetz
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Rui will be a top 10 pick, get down from the hype-train.
06-20-2019
look_at_g_shred
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Most of his weaknesses can be fixed. I'm not worried about his defense, he'll make strides in that area on a pop led team. It can be masked too while he's learning with white/murray & lma/ jakob behind him
06-20-2019
Dverde
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
One more day to dream before he gets drafted before our pick and ends up a scrub.
06-20-2019
RC_Drunkford
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by phxspurfan
lol physical specimen.
The Japanese Tyler Hansbrough. Good in college, won't be shit against NBA competition/athletes
He shitted on the Australian national team which has a few NBA athletes on it. So it's safe to say a lot of his game will translate
06-20-2019
manufan10
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
NBA TV mocked him at 12 to Charlotte. Spurs will have to move up to snag him, imo.
06-20-2019
Realdeal1
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Would love him on the Spurs but expect to be disappointed...no way he’s available at 19
06-20-2019
RC_Drunkford
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
I think Rui might fall in the draft. Not sure if to 19, but it seems a lot of other players have gained hype will his went down
06-20-2019
sasaint
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
He's going in the lottery so the Spurs better find a way into the 10-14 range if they actually like him. No way he lasts until 19.
This.
06-20-2019
look_at_g_shred
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Minny's 11th and covington/dieng for 19+demar
06-20-2019
sasaint
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
Minny's 11th and covington/dieng for 19+demar
I don't think that Minny would do that. And I don't think PATFO has the boldness to offer it. But we can dream for another 9-10 hours. I would even throw in 29 to get it done.
06-20-2019
buujness
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Spurs fever
I have a feeling we'll all be disappointed tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong.... :(
Honestly, Spurs fans' opinions on this draft are all over the place. No matter what happens, some of us will be happy.
06-20-2019
timvp
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Starting to look like Rui to Hornets at 12, tbh.
06-20-2019
slick'81
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by timvp
Starting to look like Rui to Hornets at 12, tbh.
:cry
06-20-2019
TimDunkem
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
He isn't coming here, people.
06-20-2019
cool cat
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by cool cat
The guy is going top 10 for sure, no way we are getting him.
Called it.
06-20-2019
SpurPadre
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Fuck him, tbh.
06-20-2019
superbigtime
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
damn
06-20-2019
slick'81
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
The pipe dream ends
06-20-2019
timvp
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
RIP.
06-20-2019
ceperez
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Gone.
06-20-2019
Boomersgold
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Some draft experts had him going in the late 20s citing bad defense. What were they smoking?
06-20-2019
TimDunkem
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Boomersgold
Some draft experts had him going in the late 20s citing bad defense. What were they smoking?
What was ST smoking? The whole forum is cutting it's wrists right now as if they ever had a chance at a lottery level talent. :lol
06-20-2019
Poolboy5623
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Close...only 10 picks off lol
06-21-2019
childishbambi
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Boomersgold
Some draft experts had him going in the late 20s citing bad defense. What were they smoking?
It's terrible. It's webrook-like. It's the kind of shit defense people get angry at Rudy and Derozan and Harden. That's something to dread having on your team when the game has sped up and the opposing best players are typically wings.
06-21-2019
Kurgan
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Yeah, missing out on Rui isn't the end of the world. He's pretty old for a prospect, kinda one-dimensional and doesn't do anything all that well besides scoring. Three-point shooting, passing, defense...non-existent. Rebounding is nowhere near Kawhi level. He's a good candidate for bust of the draft.
06-21-2019
Boomersgold
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Damn, we're comparing him to Westbrook, Prime Rudy, Derozan and Harden? Wiz drafted him at 9. That ain't too bad
06-22-2019
Spurtacular
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Poolboy5623
Close...only 10 picks off lol
That he went top ten was a bit of a surprise, tbh. I don't remember one mock draft having him top ten. Many didn't have him top fifteen.
06-22-2019
kobyz
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by kobyz
he doesn't fall past minnesota at #11, and most probably a top 10 pick...
06-22-2019
kobyz
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by kobyz
i''m willing to give lonnie and #19 in order to move up and get this guy...
Too bad we didn't go for it, now with having Johnson it would have make giving up Walker very easy, Johnson is better prospect at same position...
06-22-2019
NickiRasgo
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurgan
Yeah, missing out on Rui isn't the end of the world. He's pretty old for a prospect, kinda one-dimensional and doesn't do anything all that well besides scoring. Three-point shooting, passing, defense...non-existent. Rebounding is nowhere near Kawhi level. He's a good candidate for bust of the draft.
Agreed. If he's available at @ 19th, you take him but if you're gonna give up too much just to move up in the draft, it's not worth it.
06-22-2019
John B
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
He’s too much featured, compared to newly champ Kawhi, first guy from Japan in lottery. I mean this guy was never going to fall to 19
06-22-2019
ZeusWillJudge
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Spurtacular
That he went top ten was a bit of a surprise, tbh. I don't remember one mock draft having him top ten. Many didn't have him top fifteen.
The mocks this year were pathetic. Maybe they're always that bad, and it just bugged me more this year for some reason. But pretty late in the process, I saw someone in the top 10 on one mock, and well down into the 30's on another. People were calling Bol Bol in the top 10, and he damn near went undrafted (If Miami hadn't taken him, he could have.) That tells me that the hype fooled the shit out of the "analysts" but not the GM's of NBA teams.
The post draft analysis has been just as stupid. I read one article that gave Phoenix an F for their draft grade - and they said they considered giving them a G. The next one I read gave them a solid B. Don't think these guys know anything just because they write articles for a website.
06-22-2019
Spurtacular
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by ZeusWillJudge
The mocks this year were pathetic. Maybe they're always that bad, and it just bugged me more this year for some reason. But pretty late in the process, I saw someone in the top 10 on one mock, and well down into the 30's on another. People were calling Bol Bol in the top 10, and he damn near went undrafted (If Miami hadn't taken him, he could have.) That tells me that the hype fooled the shit out of the "analysts" but not the GM's of NBA teams.
The post draft analysis has been just as stupid. I read one article that gave Phoenix an F for their draft grade - and they said they considered giving them a G. The next one I read gave them a solid B. Don't think these guys know anything just because they write articles for a website.
Yea, lots of corporate cucks nowadays. You can't expect much from the watered down media. Though mock drafts in the NBA tend to be a crap shoot after about the first five picks. I expected Rui to go between 12 and 15. Their was no noise on someone reaching for Rui in the top ten. My hope was that if the teams in that range that were interested didn't draft him, then 16-18 wouldn't deviate from their plans and we'd get the steal of the draft.
02-10-2020
Spurtacular
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
I was high on this guy; and he's frankly having a decent season for a rookie. But that .241 3FG making me think it's not so bad we didn't get Rui.
02-10-2020
Darius Bieber
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
I was high on this guy; and he's frankly having a decent season for a rookie. But that .241 3FG making me think it's not so bad we didn't get Rui.
He’s giving the Wizards more than Luka is giving the Spurs this season.
02-11-2020
Spurtacular
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber
He’s giving the Wizards more than Luka is giving the Spurs this season.
You might have me confused with a Pop sniffer.
02-11-2020
Prose
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by Darius Bieber
He’s giving the Wizards more than Luka is giving the Spurs this season.
02-11-2020
Drom John
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Hachimura is one of about two handfuls of starters that is playing worse than Bryn Forbes.
02-11-2020
Russ
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drom John
Hachimura is one of about two handfuls of starters that is playing worse than Bryn Forbes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darius Bieber
He’s giving the Wizards more than Luka is giving the Spurs this season.
Hachimura also went 10 spots ahead of the Spurs' highest pick (Luka) last June. So it's kind of an academic discussion.
02-11-2020
Ed Helicopter Jones
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
This dude sucks. Turn the page.
We'll probably give him a 2-year $30MM deal when his rookie contract expires.
02-11-2020
baseline bum
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
Forgot this motherfucker is 22 already. I was thinking he was 19 or 20 with the potential to improve.
02-11-2020
TimDunkem
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
Forgot this motherfucker is 22 already. I was thinking he was 19 or 20 with the potential to improve.
Like back in the day when you said MKG had more potential than Kawhi? :lol
02-11-2020
baseline bum
Re: Rui Hachimura - 2019 NBA Draft Prospect
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Originally Posted by TimDunkem
Like back in the day when you said MKG had more potential than Kawhi? :lol
MKG and Kawhi had the same holes in their games at the time.