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Raptors just keep rapting along...
Maybe Siakam will finals MVP if the Raptors somehow win.
Siakam's Razor with a nice touch around the rim.
:cry Siakam Da Real MVP :cry
Drake trolling Dray
You have no idea how much I hate Kawhis lying fake ass injury having pussy ass mute but I have to be honest, I don't mind seeing those bitch ass Warriors lose.
Weird feeling :lol
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Originally Posted by phxspurfan
He really could be since he keep trapping Kiwi and trying to get the ball out of his hand.
Warriors might have to change the way they defend kawhi.
Forcing the ball out of kawhi hands led to nothing but easy baskets.
ESPN with no post game :lmao
ESPN 1 - Indian spelling bee
ESPN 2 - softball
Leonard seems to have taken the Spurs heart with him - Toronto is playing Spursball: the ball movement, defense, unselfishness. Love him or hate him, but right now its:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShutUp SayItAgain!
Leonard >Pop/Spurs FO
Kerr: :cry “Dubs don’t need KD, they need the refs back” :cry
KD to Toronto confirmed
Phew. I mean my strategy was +10.5 or higher. But I might've settled for +8.5
Perhaps for the better that I didn't make it out to Nevada.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lefty
He should go to the Bucks he and Giannis would destroy the league, but it will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
siakam bending draymond over isn't something i saw coming. awesome performance
SMH. Morons actually believe Warriors better w/o Durant.
GS perhaps overconfident from beating the hapless Rockets and Blazers?
LOL Blazers...game 1 "strategy" was to give Curry and Thompson open looks + leaving Green unguarded and no one to guard.
I think some posters here shot their loads over Green...
LOL getting disemboweled by Siakum.
The game is a bit different when you have to guard someone.
:lol Drake vs KD, I know who is winning this roundQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
NBA Finals coverage on ESPN now?
Nope; spelling b overtime for a co-champion. Coverage of a tie. SMH
Oh, and there are two co-champions with six more on the way. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
1st ever champion from the state of Maryland; well, when everyone wins. :lol
Not SJW enough. None of these kids are black or transgendered.
It's actually a shame if Durant can't play. We're being robbed of what would be one of the best matchups in Finals history.
The difference in quality in these top East teams vs. the soft West teams was jarring in these playoffs..Raptors toughest challenge was Philly, and they had a much more difficult time getting looks against Milwaukee than they did tonight..
Warriors were probably hurt by playing such a weak Portland team last round, came out surprised against a much better team..
Eastern Conference was superior in 2018-19Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Rockets & Blazers blow this game
Lebron with the 4D chess move
LeBron's retired, he wants to make movies and shows..Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostKing
too bad no one wants to go to MilwaukeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyblue19
Apparently so does Curry: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1013322...=nm_flmg_prd_1Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Uh, he didn't make the playoffs, dude. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by FrostKing
Same can be said about Fat AntonioQuote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
Yeah but at least Texas has bbqQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyblue19
If he stayed in Cleveland or had gone to New York he would have gotten bounced in the 1st Round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
In LA he can shield himself with the Wests reputation and Magic fiasco
Caught pff guard. Portland was a bad preparation matchup for GSW. The defense was way too soft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
4 of the top 6 teams in the league now are in the east.
I'm wondering if they're going to continue taking the ball out of leonards hand. He only had 14 fga. He usually eclipses 20 even if hes struggling.
The raptors just did an amzing job moving the ball once lepnard passess it out. There was always an opening.
We'll see if they continue doing the same thing. The raps have way too much diverse scoring talent. They just might just have to guard kawhi 1 on 1.
Game 1
Leonard + Lowry = 30 points
AI injured
Imo Raptors go up 2-0 and GS is playing catch up the rest of the series begging for Durant to save them
Imo 40% chance Toronto Champs right now
True, but which is a bigger market? I assume Milwaukee they have Packers and the Brewers and the stadium isn't in a crappy neighborhoodQuote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
Completely agree with all of that. They're totally playing Spurs ballQuote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
Siakam, Gasol, Vanfleet, Lowry can all make plays. That's the biggest problem with GSW defensive scheme.
The focus was way too much on kawhi ala Lillard, and Harden.
While Harden, had Gordon..(cp0 doesnt count because he was so bad) and Blazers had CJ.
The raptors is a completely different animal.
When kawhi releases the ball after double triple teaming him or blitzing the pick and roll. The Warriors become extremely vulnerable defeneively. Gasol, Lowry, Siakam, Vanfleet were all making smart decisions and moving the ball towards the open man.
Defensively, they might be forced to tone down on the kawhi focus in the hlaf court.
Their transition defense was also atrocious. Really really bad.
Offensively, they were ok....its the defense that killed them.
Toronto usually doesnt score this much if you can defend at least.
new balance doesn’t even have kawhi shoes to sell :lol those fucking morons :lol
he had 30+ against him in the RS as well :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Texas has the Rangers/'Stros and the Cowboys...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyblue19
You're stretching, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostKing
Reading GS reddit page. So much ref complaining.
Embarrassing. I don't remember the fan bases of Jordan's Bulls or Shaq's Lakers resorting to ref talk following playoff loses.
Further proof they simply are not an all time great team ststus
Warriors go down 0 - 2 and they're not winning without KD. Iguodala will be waving a white flag by Game 4.
Best player was 2 for 6 and had 6 turnovers also held Siakam to only 32 points
:lol
Dr. "I'm the greatest defender eva" Dray got shitted on. That's probably what Drake was telling him. :lol
:lol at the Spurs trading him.
bUt ThEy dOn't nEEd kD! :rollin :lmao :rollin
Or OG :lol
holy hell...We all know what the trade was, but sometimes it takes seeing it in writing to realize just how bad it really isQuote:
Originally Posted by LkrFan
There's more:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
:lmao
Gasol and Danny were big on both sides. Happy for Danny.
But Warriors played with no intensity. I don't expect them to play that lazily for another game.
Still think Warriors, probably in 6.
I said it at the time of of the trade... Would at least settled for OG but I argued for Siakam.. Potel?!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
And if Usai wouldn't cave, you call his bluff.
Spurs had the best player by far... Didn't want to deal with a bit of drama (my fucking team wallows in it, unfortunately) but waiting for a better offer for your franchise player would have been worth it and prudent.
I love this BS narrative and revisionist history that Spurs had no leverage.
This trade is being praised for the Raptors gamble... But Pop and RC also should be called out for this fleece job.
Warriors came out rusty. They've been off for 2 weeks. Even then it wasn't a blowout. We'll see how the next game goes.
Yeah I think they will be sharper in game 2Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Speaking of revisionist history, how did you figure out trading a borderline all star for a top five (minimum) player would have been a risk to the raptors? Oh right, because Kawhi made it known he won’t resign with a team outside of LA and was willing to sit out a year to get his wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
So what leverage did the spurs have.
Nurse had a pretty good game plan. Trapping curry high on the pick and roll with gasol was unexpected.
Ball movement was solid on the raptors and they were able to manufacture open shots when The nephew was bottled up.
Van fleet was phenomenal defending curry in tandem with gasol.
Lowry player very smart throughout.
Siakim destroyed green.
Speaking of green. He made some very smart plays but just couldn’t contain siakim at all. Imagine him guarding Hakeem, Robinson, shaq, Ewing, or even Daugherty or mourning. He would’ve been annihilated. :lol today’s nba.
LDN finding his shooting touch.
You wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
It's a game of fucking high stakes poker.
You wait and better offers may come and Kawhi's group could feel pressure mounting.
As Harlem stated upstairs they did not just gamble on Kawhi staying they fucking dumped a borderline all star with a superstar contract on you...
Again DD played well but PATFO pussed out, period...
That was a solid game plan but next game refs can just give Gasol 3-4 quick fouls.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
:lol. Wait for what? Lakers offered garbage. Boston wasn’t willing to offer anything. All the teams that were not Contenders refused to offer anything because they all know he’s signing with LA after the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
People like to rag on derozan but his contract is not out of place in :lol today’s nba.
You just said the raptors took a risk. Now what would it be a risk at all if it was such a bad offer for the spurs?
A better analogy for Kawhi deal...
PATFO was sitting on prime piece of real estate or premium blue-chip stock...
Couple is divorcing but current market is a buyer's one.
Husband begs wife to hold off on selling now until the markets settles she will get more if she waits but that bitch who was banging the pool boy herself is so enraged that he wanted to relocate the family to a bigger city (and told her she should lose a few lbs and that her "aunty" was a bad influence... So she tells him sell that shit now give her her cut and I don't wanna discuss the shit any further talk to my lawyer. She has. Moved on cyz she is classy like that.
Spurs talk are the joint custody children.
Some of Spur fan is loyal to daddy (and logic) and wanna see her suffer.. others just want to see her happy
:lol Laker fan trying to trash talk while their organization burns to the ground
A better fucking offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
Lakers aren't only team
Make Raptors give up more of you love DD that much.
Just because DDs contract is in line with other shitty contracts doesn't make it a good one.
I said Raptors were being praised for a gamble
What risk did they take they dumped a bad contract for a good player for a injured legit superstar who their own medical staff fucking cleared to play...
You don't get back their best young prospect...
Whebdafuck dis Usai surpass PATFO in negotiating?!
OH we a fucking messQuote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Doesnt change the facts of the Kawhi deal
It's not trash talk I would still trade patffo for our shitshow FO...
None of that changes this..
And even great FO makes mistakes just admit this one and tank God you don't have ours...
I've called out PATFO multiple times the past few years tbh. Still, seeing y'all bash the Spurs for poor FO decisions is hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
Even Kevin Duckworth (RIP) would destroy him tbh :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
Warriors are eyeing Durant to be back in game 4
The eye gouging nut kicking Draymond will be in full effect next game.
teams trading star players at or near their peak never get anything resembling value back. lakers dead shaq for odom/butler/brian grant. people here thought ainge got robbed when he traded isaiah thomas and jae crowder for kyrie :lol (seriously, people thought "omg AND JAE CROWDER???")Quote:
Originally Posted by LkrFan
when a guy makes a trade demand known publicly, and even limits the cities he's willing to play for, the team has almost no leverage at all. it was just a matter of sending him to the eastern conference. best package was the clippers deal
“No intensity” :lol This is the fucking finals. You don’t take games off in June. The Raptors are legit and are going to give the Warriors the most difficult series they’ve ever had. This isn’t a Lou Williams led team that took them to 6 games, a low IQ Rockets team that nearly pushed them 7, or a Blazer team who led a majority of the series despite being swept. A magical “switch” isn’t getting flipped. Toronto has all the tools to win this series handily.Quote:
Originally Posted by vavvi
Did the spurs get a better offer? Kawhi was holding off all year. When do they wait till? THe 2019 finals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
He nephew and his team stated multiple times he’s going to come back in the 2017-18 season and then didn’t, raising concerns that he can no longer play. The team also leaked that he nephew wanted to go to LA and LA only.
The raptors took a huge risk already as you noted and the spurs would wait for what exactly? The raptors to take a bigger risk?
Why would the raptors give up a young prospect for a one year rental for a star player who has shown he would sit out a year and potentially injured? Especially when there is no competition?
We are humans. Over repeated success if not challenged our intensity & focus declines.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursreport
Warriors fan base seems to think Raptors hit their ceiling last night. I think one individual player did but Toronto as a whole still has another level.
One thing for sure: GS is not climbing out of an 0-2 hole without fully healthy Durant and that might not be an option
I never said huge risk I said they getting praise for a gamble when it was a fleecing...Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
Look I'm just taking credit like some said as well for valuing Kawhi appropriately and devaluing the DD plus poo-poo platter..
It's like the KD over Oden I take pride in calling out the foolishness of the decision at the time of the trade not with some hindsight is 20/20 bullshit.
But it's over now just don't like the BS spin.
Oh my you can tell Kawhi > derozan? I’m sure you’re the only one to know that. In fact, I wouldn’t be able to tell without you telling me. But now that you mentioned it i think it’s true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
Man, I guess the spurs really shouldn’t have traded Kawhi for no reason at all. I mean, he was just second in mvp voting, won a finals mvp and two dpoy. Why would they trade him at all? Do you know why?
Because that FO has a huge ego
Wasn't arguing that they should not have traded him only that they panicked and took a bad deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
You say they had no leverage of course they didn't because they didn't want it to drag on and deal deal with the negative media attention... because drama is not the Spurs way... It speaks to the great culture and if anything I can respect that part but the bullshit spin that this was the best they could do and they had no leverage makes me question your reasoning which I normally respect outside of your obvious bias against Achilles...
:cry But the ball movement :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by lefty
What happened to that Anunobi guy?
He had an appendectomy around the end of the season. He confirmed what many of us suspected when he was out longer than usual that it had ruptured before surgery. He was upgraded to questionable for game 1 but they decided to keep him out. Nurse said he expects he’ll be active for game 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
I give that post an A gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
So you know that the raptors will offer anouby or siakim if the spurs just play hard to get? Who were the raptors going against? Were they worried that the spurs will just screw this and take the poo poo platter from the lakers? Have you ever negotiated? The raptors were totally fine with keeping their roster intact. There was no pressure no expectations. All the pressure was on the spurs and everyone knew it because kawhis camp made it public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
There’s only maybe 4-5 players that would have been a somewhat even trade with kawahi. No matter what the spurs were fucked.
COngrats on being the only non retarded lakers fan on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laker_1995
GS really needs game 2. Putting Durant back in now will have its issues
Do you know the Raptors would not have offered an or sia?Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
Yes they were very much under pressure, even if it was self induced. Raptors / Raptor Fan were tired of being in playoffs but never getting far. GM seemed super motivated to make a splash.
The premise isn't the Spurs made a fantastic trade. The premise is that the Spurs were fleeced because they didn't wait. The onus of proof is on him, not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
And no, there was a huge uproar over trading derozan as he was the first star player to willingly resign with the raptors. The risk is that they got rid of the most beloved star in franchise history for a one year rental of a guy who was wiling to sit out and force a trade to LA.
It was a smart move by ujiri. He knew the raptors maxed out its potential. If nephew stays, then great. If he leaves then they tried and can reboot the team.
There is nothing I can prove... And neither can you. Facts are it was not a good trade. No way to prove they could get more it's just the gamble I argued they should take. Use the Lakers as leverage and, threaten tiosend him there if Raptors won't up the ante... Lakers have been dumb as fuck... Sure they would have blindly obliged... But because they made it known they weren't sending him west and especially Los Angeles Clips or Lakers they fucked their leverage...Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
Of course you don't get fair value for Kawhi you never do for a top 1-5 player but you don't have to get fleeced either...
Exactly. While Toronto didn't have to make a move, ujiri wanted to make one. Badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
IMO.
As Killa noted, we are all just speculating here.
I am in the camp that says the Spurs did not have to make a move at that exact time. Yes Nephew put them in a corner. But they were not pinned in yet. I, like Killa wonder what other teams might have done had the Spurs been willing to play poker. Loved that they laughed off the initial offer from entitlement minded Fagic. But have to believe Fagic may have come back with a counter had the Spurs held out and gotten other teams offering something. Celts tight assed Ainge? Ya true. Philly is one that might have been willing to up the ante quite a bit. Or Clipps, altho I didn't want Harris. Point being, Spurs did not HAVE to move when they did.
Of course if CIA Popped isn't married to Patty Mills, we may have gone much farther this year including the playoffs. Which could have made the DD trade much better. Just speculatin. ;)
Great post it was all I am saying and is a fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiTroll
DD is a good player at less salary I would like him even more.
It's all speculative I just believe you get less when you are extra motivated to move something right away.
Maye fleeced is a bit strong but definitely more than just they lost the trade, because there was no way to win when you are losing a player like Kawhi... Hut Siakam even before Game 1 makes the loss much less of one...
I don't remember you valuing Kawhi very high last summer when he was on the trading block. You thought I was crazy calling him the second best player in the league when he might actually be #1 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
lol today's NBA where you need two days off while no team travel is scheduled.
Purdle, so far, has been a much better prospect than OG, and was the best option available outside Siakam(who wasn't available). I don't know why ST is obsessed with OG, like he is this amazing prospect.
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Originally Posted by Reck
Raptors 2-0 crew
Well duh. Anytime to trade a top 10 player it’s going to be a bad trade, let alone a top 3. Teams never trade a top player without it being necessary and it never brings anything close to comparable value. It doesn’t take Kawhi making the finals to know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killakobe81
It’s stupid the roaches are coming out now to say how stupid the spurs were because Kawhi made the finals, as if the raptors or making it, say if siakim broke a leg or Lowry got knocked out would somehow make it a better trade.
What leverage are the lakers. Don’t send me your semi garbage because the lakers are going to send me worse garbage?
Nope Finals doesn't change anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
I said it at the time of the trade and I said it now.
Finals just make it look worse because Siakam broke out who was player I insisted on... Or no deal.