Finals: Raptors vs. Warriors

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Originally Posted by MultiTroll

Exactly. While Toronto didn't have to make a move, ujiri wanted to make one. Badly.
IMO.
As Killa noted, we are all just speculating here.

I am in the camp that says the Spurs did not have to make a move at that exact time. Yes Nephew put them in a corner. But they were not pinned in yet. I, like Killa wonder what other teams might have done had the Spurs been willing to play poker. Loved that they laughed off the initial offer from entitlement minded Fagic. But have to believe Fagic may have come back with a counter had the Spurs held out and gotten other teams offering something. Celts tight assed Ainge? Ya true. Philly is one that might have been willing to up the ante quite a bit. Or Clipps, altho I didn't want Harris. Point being, Spurs did not HAVE to move when they did.

Of course if CIA Popped isn't married to Patty Mills, we may have gone much farther this year including the playoffs. Which could have made the DD trade much better. Just speculatin. ;)

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No doubt Ujiri wanted to make the trade, I would be all over it if I can get a top 3 player by giving up a borderline All-Star. But he was under no pressure to do so.

Kawhi didn't necessarily increase his value much during the regular season. He was always injury managing himself, showing just enough to justify the max, but did his value necessarily increase? Not really, because, again, his camp made it clear he wanted to be in LA.

If the Raptors making the finals didn't make them the clear cut winner to sign Nephew now (people are still speculating he is going to the Clippers), if an entire country is treating him like a God and willing to sacrifice their virgin daugthers for him don't make him want to stay in Toronto, what chance would the Celtics or Philly have in keeping him? It would be even less of a chance for weaker teams to do so. As for the Clippers, they can get him without giving up anything at all, why up the ante?

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Originally Posted by Killakobe81

Nope Finals doesn't change anything
I said it at the time of the trade and I said it now.
Finals just make it look worse because Siakam broke out who waste player I insisted on... Or no deal.

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So what is your point, that Spurs had a bad trade? No shit! The 6ers had a bad trade involving Barkley, ditto Lakers and Shaq, or Grizzlies with MVPau, or Bucks with Kareem. I wanted the Spurs to hold out too, but reality is that Nephew and his crew isn't going to help the Spurs at all, they made sure they want to nuclear bomb the Spurs organization, and the actions the last few days showed it.

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Originally Posted by ambchang

So what is your point, that Spurs had a bad trade? No shit! The 6ers had a bad trade involving Barkley, ditto Lakers and Shaq, or Grizzlies with MVPau, or Bucks with Kareem. I wanted the Spurs to hold out too, but reality is that Nephew and his crew isn't going to help the Spurs at all, they made sure they want to nuclear bomb the Spurs organization, and the actions the last few days showed it.

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wait,I thought Odom was this great big that helped carry achilles?! I said my peace you think they did well considering the circumstances, i think they panicked.
I'm gonna stop here because i know you always feel that you have to have the last word ... so feel free to make a pithy response and consider the matter closed.

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Originally Posted by Killakobe81

wait,I thought Odom was this great big that helped carry achilles?! I said my peace you think they did well considering the circumstances, i think they panicked.
I'm gonna stop here because i know you always feel that you have to have the last word ... so feel free to make a pithy response and consider the matter closed.

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Did you hit your head lately?

Derozan got the spurs to the playoffs, Odom was more than enough for the playoffs. But getting odom for shaq was a fleece because shaq got the lakers three straight rings. Just as Kawhi can get the spurs rings.

Do you under stand or do I have to get midnightpulp to draw you some diagrams?

Wait, so after shitting on Kawhi and calling him a system player for the Spurs, shitting on him for all of last year and saying he sucks, now in the NBA finals Lakers fan is revising history and telling us what a bad deal the Kawhi trade was for the Spurs?

Didn't your team just sign LeBron James and proceed to miss the playoffs? Didn't your team hire Kobe's agent to play GM? Didn't Magic Johnson just go on First Take 2 weeks ago and completely confirm what we all knew in that the Lakers ownership makes Jerry Jones look competent? I know if that was my team i would shut the fuck up about anyone else's issues.

If the Dubs lose to a Canadian NBA team, is that worse than Jim leading USA to a Bronze Olympic Medal? I don't think so :lol

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Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

Wait, so after shitting on Kawhi and calling him a system player for the Spurs, shitting on him for all of last year and saying he sucks, now in the NBA finals Lakers fan is revising history and telling us what a bad deal the Kawhi trade was for the Spurs?

Didn't your team just sign LeBron James and proceed to miss the playoffs? Didn't your team hire Kobe's agent to play GM? Didn't Magic Johnson just go on First Take 2 weeks ago and completely confirm what we all knew in that the Lakers ownership makes Jerry Jones look competent? I know if that was my team i would shut the fuck up about anyone else's issues.

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Yup we are a mess, doesn't change the facts.. here. A fucker who has been divorced 6 times might not be the best person to get marital advice from but can still tell you plenty about a bad match and the mistakes they made...

I never said Kawhi was a system player said he was third best SF before injury... But might be third best player as well he leads a title might be #1.

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Originally Posted by Bill_Brasky

Wait, so after shitting on Kawhi and calling him a system player for the Spurs, shitting on him for all of last year and saying he sucks, now in the NBA finals Lakers fan is revising history and telling us what a bad deal the Kawhi trade was for the Spurs?

Didn't your team just sign LeBron James and proceed to miss the playoffs? Didn't your team hire Kobe's agent to play GM? Didn't Magic Johnson just go on First Take 2 weeks ago and completely confirm what we all knew in that the Lakers ownership makes Jerry Jones look competent? I know if that was my team i would shut the fuck up about anyone else's issues.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by LkrFan

:lol

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Your an ass hope for this one Diego :lol

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Originally Posted by BD24

Your an ass hope for this one Diego :lol

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:lol

Let’s Go No. 2!

Game time!

Cousins starting.

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Originally Posted by DC23

Cousins starting.

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:cry

D league posting up eliancito ������
Anyone who says nurse is a better coach than Pop should be robbed and shot to death. lmao

Raptors too good

Raptors already in the penalty. Big game coming from Leonard.

Let's go kawhi!!

Fuck these WarriorRefs, that was an insanely easy goaltending call on Thompson.

Kawow

:lmao Warriors looking supremely average out there.

:lmao Siakam destroying fattie Green again.

Silver isn’t letting the Warriors go down 0-2 :lol

Gasol the missing piece

Warriors got this, tbh.

The Golden State Moving Screens

:lmao Curry preemptively providing an excuse for his shitty play

steph with a illness excuse?

Warriors playing with purpose. Siakam is so good

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Originally Posted by Killakobe81

steph with a illness excuse?

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All elite players like to use the injury excuse. Leonard did the same last series.

:lol Mah leg :cry

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Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown

The Golden State Moving Screens

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Come on there is no ref excuses here ...
moving screens vs a lot of clutching and grabbing
refs have been fine
raptors are just beating and bullying Dubs even with the FT disparity tonight.

Pascal the gawd

Somebody's gonna max Donkey:

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Originally Posted by Monostradamus

:lmao Curry preemptively providing an excuse for his shitty play

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Right!! Kawhi is playing with one fucking leg and you don't see him making excuses.

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Originally Posted by Monostradamus

Silver isn’t letting the Warriors go down 0-2 :lol

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Yep - Scott Foster is an elite road team fixer.

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Originally Posted by GB20

Right!! Kawhi is playing with one fucking leg and you don't see him making excuses.

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You sure about that? :lol

Raptors are playing great D overall, but they've had momentary lapses. They clean that up and this is over

Curry excuses coming soon. If it were Lebron I could imagine the fucken bashing that would happen

It's a lot easier to appreciate Donkey when you aren't rooting against the Warriors. By far the best role player in the league, and a super role player like him is way harder to come across than say third tier stars, tbh.

Warriors on pace for 52 free throws. What a joke.

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Originally Posted by ambchang

Warriors on pace for 52 free throws. What a joke.

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Warrioref

Siakam is a gem. He's incredible

TOR is playing with a great poise.

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Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown

The Golden State Moving Screens

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Ala 2008 Celtics illegals screens vs Lakers in the Finals. Shhhhh!!

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Originally Posted by TDfan2007

Siakam is a gem. He's incredible

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Pop told me he preferred Peotl in the Kiwi deal tbh :lmao

Chef choking in the Finals without DurAlpha? :wow

Raptors in 5. Is it just me or is anyone else getting 2014 vibes here? Like the Spurs in 2014, Raps cannot be stopped.

:lol Jackson and Van Gundy already semen shielding for the Warriors.

VanVleet has had some great finishes.

Curry faking sick :lmao

What is it with these damn players faking shit lol

Jackson: :cry Warriors just aren't the same anymore.

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Originally Posted by LkrFan

Chef choking in the Finals without DurAlpha? :wow

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Looking like Finals Game 3 Curry from last year when Durant bailed the whole team out.

The Canadian announcers are going apeshit. :lol

Cousins getting D-Wade calls out here

Lmao fuckin refs man

Scott Foster :lmao

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Originally Posted by AlexJones

Cousins getting D-Wade calls out here

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:lol

This should be a blowout

Cousins first got a phantom foul in gasol, then a clear charge against Lowry that was called a block. The nba isnt even trying to make this subtle.

I haven't heard a big man yell on his shot like this since Pau Gasol. Cousins is sounding like a bitch out there lol.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Warriors got this, tbh.

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They really dont tbh

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Originally Posted by ShutUp SayItAgain!

Lmao fuckin refs man

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Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k

Looking like Finals Game 3 Curry from last year when Durant bailed the whole team out.

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Yep yep

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Originally Posted by ShutUp SayItAgain!

This should be a blowout

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Scott Foster ain't having it.

If it weren't for the refs it'd prob be a 20 point lead at least

This is going to make it easier for Kawhi to leave. One year, one championship.

Now I gotta make bank, bye. :lol

The raptors are too strong for the warriors.

Holy crap the Warriors stinking up the joint.

raps hungrier and putting in the work.

Warriors defensive effort has been inconsistent, but damn the Raptors are playing WELL. The same guys who looked frozen against the bucks are stepping up big time.

Somewhere KD laughing at the thought of the Dubs being better without him. Meanwhile Dr. Dray telling him they can't 3peat without him:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/33c1...itemid=8303639

:lol

western conference dominance is dead tbh. gs was only team that wasnt a regular season pretender and even they are getting sonned by the 2nd best team in the east..

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Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k

Looking like Finals Game 3 Curry from last year when Durant bailed the whole team out.

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:lol low IQ post. Curry was triple teamed at half court while Durant got everything 1 on 1

A bit premature to say TOR is clearly the better team, imo. The Warriors have come back in the 2nd half all postseason. Even if they don't again, it's probable that they hold serve at home. MIL looked more in control after two games in the ECF.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

A bit premature to say TOR is clearly the better team, imo. The Warriors have come back in the 2nd half all postseason. Even if they don't again, it's probable that they hold serve at home. MIL looked more in control after two games in the ECF.

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Tor is much better especially at home

Fat Gasol with his Pistons Bad Boy screens :lol

:lmao at all the low IQ takes about how the Warriorefs were better without KD :lol

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Originally Posted by LkrFan

Fat Gasol with his Pistons Bad Boy screens :lol

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MVGasol tbh

Raptors should be up 20. Refs are only partly to blame tbh. Autism Boy not noticing where the out of bounds line is isn’t helping.

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Originally Posted by slick'81

Tor is much better especially at home

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I don't think so but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

I don't think so but we'll see.

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These arent the blazers homie

Warriors players flat out quitting one by one.

i wonder what the raps do if kawhi leaves. masai isn't afraid to make moves.

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Originally Posted by AlexJones

:lol low IQ post. Curry was triple teamed at half court while Durant got everything 1 on 1

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Stop with the bullshit excuses. He wasn't triple-teamed on every shot dumbass :lol

but but warriorefs :cry

raptorrefs to the rescue, tbh

Van whatever the fuck is murdering Curry lolol

Dubs finally called for illegal screen? :wow

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Originally Posted by Play Boban

:lmao at all the low IQ takes about how the Warriorefs were better without KD :lol

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timvp turning up ghost. :lol

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Originally Posted by slick'81

These arent the blazers homie

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Bet?

How is this still a game?

Fred VanVleet has been the best PG in this game.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Bet?

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Series or just this game

Drake tryna instigate a T on Donkey :lol

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Originally Posted by Reck

timvp turning up ghost. :lol

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VanVleet must’ve read some of timvp’s posts from last series tbh. :lol

:lol drake trolling Donkey

Raps took their foot off the gas to end the half. Couple of braindead plays

That was not a foul on Siakem, but it was a dumb reach.

Awful end to the half for Raptors tbh, precarious position fwiw........ :wakeup

Klay and Scott Foster bailing out the Dubs :lol

54-59

What is wrong with that picture. :lmao

Game should be done.