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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Pop will hug Kawhi and congratulate him when he plays against the Spurs next. Then Pop will shake hands and hug Fred Van Vleet too when the Raptors come to town
SMH. True and pissess me off. That's not class . It's being a bitch. At some fucking point defend yourself damnit.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
ShutUp SayItAgain!
SMH. True and pissess me off. That's not class . It's being a bitch. At some fucking point defend yourself damnit.
Pop from the 2000s wasn't like that. He wasn't a submissive bitch. He had players hip check opponents, step under their feet, etc. Pop from back then had dirty tricks in his arsenal and tried to win at all costs. Somebody didn't perform in the playoffs? They got shipped out. But now ever since he went with this "all class" approach and "getting over yourself", "loyalty contracts" and "things more important than basketball" he's pissing me off. You can't win titles with that submissive loser ideology
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Ol DPF lol
Da Point Fart
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Pop from the 2000s wasn't like that. He wasn't a submissive bitch. He had players hip check opponents, step under their feet, etc. Pop from back then had dirty tricks in his arsenal and tried to win at all costs. Somebody didn't perform in the playoffs? They got shipped out. But now ever since he went with this "all class" approach and "getting over yourself", "loyalty contracts" and "things more important than basketball" he's pissing me off. You can't win titles with that submissive loser ideology
Agreed. Kawhi constantly throwing jabs now every single time he speaks...media runs with it. Spurs say nothing. Fuck that shit.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Pop from the 2000s wasn't like that. He wasn't a submissive bitch. He had players hip check opponents, step under their feet, etc. Pop from back then had dirty tricks in his arsenal and tried to win at all costs. Somebody didn't perform in the playoffs? They got shipped out. But now ever since he went with this "all class" approach and "getting over yourself", "loyalty contracts" and "things more important than basketball" he's pissing me off. You can't win titles with that submissive loser ideology
Ironically, it's the ego. The media helped push this image of "class", "culture", and "doing things the right way". Pop has to maintain this image he built at all costs.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
Da Point Fart
DPF? I thought I was at least as DPB+ amiright??
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Re: Kawhi's closest man: "F**k Pop"
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Originally Posted by
Leetonidas
Lol from cheering dominoes injury to shooting up the parade. I thought Canadians were supposed to be chill and friendly
The Drake Era has begun.
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Originally Posted by
Uriel
What I wanna know is what Pop did to Kawhi that made him hate him enough to talk shit about him to his teammates. From what I've heard, Kawhi's antipathy towards Spurs management has never extended to Pop.
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
ShutUp SayItAgain!
SMH. True and pissess me off. That's not class . It's being a bitch. At some fucking point defend yourself damnit.
Defend himself? Pop was the aggressor all last season and the beginning of this season... Throwing shade to Kawhi in press conferences and then this season saying he isn't a leader... Now Kawhi is on top ppl wanna act like pop has been the silent victim?
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
Jsimms sounds like a huge faggot tbh
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
Jsimms sounds like a huge faggot tbh
He's not wrong though. That's exactly my issue with Pop too. You're not a politician, you're a damn basketball coach. Go out there and preach that. Also we know he plays favorites. Just like how Mills can do all kinds of fuck ups yet is still in Pop's good graces but when LDN made one mistake, Pop would give him a hard time and bench him.
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Well pop did say Kawhi wasnt a leader...and yet he just lead a team to a finals victory. I can see where they're coming from.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
Jsimms sounds like a huge faggot tbh
The first time I've ever agreed with you If JSimms really thought that way he's an idiotic faggot!!
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I think by in large, the embodiment of spurs fans are tired of Pop the politician and just want a hungry head basketball coach. His legacy would’ve been so much better had he retired with Tim...like he said he would...but his ego and taste for being in the spotlight wouldn’t let him.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
He's lucky low iq pop and crew make terrible trades.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
ShutUp SayItAgain!
SMH. True and pissess me off. That's not class . It's being a bitch. At some fucking point defend yourself damnit.
Ah, the good old days when Bruce Bowen would cave Van Vleet's face in at the next home game....
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I for one don’t mind pop speaking up for what’s fair & just! Basketball is a segment of life, not the other way around.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
Jsimms sounds like a huge faggot tbh
He kinda sounds like SJax....when he was washed up. BoooHooo, Pop likes Manu and Danny more than me.
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Re: Kawhi's closest man: "F**k Pop"
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
I'm outraged. I need a safe space.
:lol
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
anyone who has watched Spurs since 2000 (or since 2014) can see this clearly
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Re: Kawhi's closest man: "F**k Pop"
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Originally Posted by
BatManu20
Shooting reported at Jurassic Park
Cia Pop
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I can’t wait to see this season’s schedule. What are the chances Spurs get to open the season in Toronto, when the rings are handed out? :D
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
The funny thing is I can believe Simmons most likely felt and said the comments posted of course without using the "ER" on the N- word.
He most likely felt he wasn't getting playing time due to Pop having favorites, even Stephen Jackson brought up the playing time stuff on television. The funny thing about that though is both players who complained about wanting bigger roles and more playing time were really not good enough to back up their complaints. Lol. Both times the Spurs did the right thing letting Jackson walk and Simmons is a low efficiency ball hog. Funny enough kind of like Jackson was. Lol.
As far as Pop's so called politics and such I can again see Simmons having the mindset of fuck all that because of where he came from and how he got to the NBA. There is alot of people who are out for themselves and those around them and that's it. Which is fine, in my opinion but I understand where Pop is coming from when he looks at people with money, power and influence should try to do more to help their communities.
A lot of people who "make it" forget that a lot of folks help them get to where they are and everyone needs assistance every now and then.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
duncan2k5
Defend himself? Pop was the aggressor all last season and the beginning of this season... Throwing shade to Kawhi in press conferences and then this season saying he isn't a leader... Now Kawhi is on top ppl wanna act like pop has been the silent victim?
I don't like Pop much at all. But Kawhi faked an injury period. So you can keep twisting it into whatever you want. It will never change that Kawhi faked an injury to force a trade and quit on his team that rightfully called out his bs.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Pop from the 2000s wasn't like that. He wasn't a submissive bitch. He had players hip check opponents, step under their feet, etc. Pop from back then had dirty tricks in his arsenal and tried to win at all costs. Somebody didn't perform in the playoffs? They got shipped out. But now ever since he went with this "all class" approach and "getting over yourself", "loyalty contracts" and "things more important than basketball" he's pissing me off. You can't win titles with that submissive loser ideology
meh, if the 'getting over yourself' thing is an culture issue, then the blame goes to TD, Manu, and TP too
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Originally Posted by
BWS-1994
I can’t wait to see this season’s schedule. What are the chances Spurs get to open the season in Toronto, when the rings are handed out? :D
Probably will open with raptors and warriors or raptors and bucks. Spurs are irrelevant to the league.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
Uriel
What I wanna know is what Pop did to Kawhi that made him hate him enough to talk shit about him to his teammates. ...
Why do you imagine Kawhi ever did that?
People can easily form opinions about Pop without ever hearing a word from Kawhi. Witness this entire forum.
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Jonathon Simmons was a highly motivated individual who ran up to his limit, as a bench spark. He probably thinks thinks he's due more but pop was right to limit his minutes based on his skills and peak.
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Originally Posted by
K...
Jonathon Simmons was a highly motivated individual who ran up to his limit, as a bench spark. He probably thinks thinks he's due more but pop was right to limit his minutes based on his skills and peak.
Jonathan Simmons =/= Kawhi Leonard
You can tell Jon to stop shooting and low ball him, but hoping Kawhi is limited to being a 20 point, 30 mpg player to make LaMatouches happy, then giving Fatty 50 mill is a different matter altogether.
Pop treats some fairly, others he plays favorites with, and others thinks he can mold them into whatever the hell he wants with that outdated military style while hogging all the credit himself. It isn't going to fly in today's NBA.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
so you're saying kawhi is a house slave?
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
If you're going to censor your words, do it correctly, my guy:lol
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
I mean how would any of y'all feel if you were an NBA player and your coach shows you videos of penguins in film sessions?
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
If you're going to censor your words, do it correctly, my guy:lol
:lmao
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
BatManu20
FVV’s head is getting too big for his own good
"We delivered" :lmao
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For someone that’s been so quiet on the court, he sure is all puffed up and wordy now.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Originally Posted by
Budkin
"We delivered" :lmao
Raps dont beat Mke without Vanfleets heroics...hate him all you want..
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Originally Posted by
Poolboy5623
Raps dont beat Mke without Vanfleets heroics...hate him all you want..
Dude was the anti mills for them
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Originally Posted by
timtonymanu
He's not wrong though. That's exactly my issue with Pop too. You're not a politician, you're a damn basketball coach. Go out there and preach that. Also we know he plays favorites. Just like how Mills can do all kinds of fuck ups yet is still in Pop's good graces but when LDN made one mistake, Pop would give him a hard time and bench him.
Well said Pop treats his players like college player like he has to mold them into men. Fuck the politics and just coach basketball so your team can get past the first round.
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Jonathan Simmons =/= Kawhi Leonard
You can tell Jon to stop shooting and low ball him, but hoping Kawhi is limited to being a 20 point, 30 mpg player to make LaMatouches happy, then giving Fatty 50 mill is a different matter altogether.
Pop treats some fairly, others he plays favorites with, and others thinks he can mold them into whatever the hell he wants with that outdated military style while hogging all the credit himself. It isn't going to fly in today's NBA.
as limited as simmons is, spurs shouldve kept him instead of the overrated vets on their way out
the year the spurs made wcf against the rockets, they had david lee, simmons, dedmon, david west, let all of them walked
the following year summer, they let more younger guys go for nothing
basically half of the roster that was on that wcf run all got dealt
fck the spurms patfo getting rid of the young core that was meant to be built around kawhi, only to pissed him off with the continuing signing of vets on loyalty deals
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oddly enough, the most accomplished coaches in NBA history-red, phil, riley and pop-all "molded" their players' characters (albeit in different ways and from different angles). even kerr is similar to this (as are spoelstra and rivers-which would be odd if leonard winds up a clipper).
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You guys all upset about nothing. FVV didn't say "fuck Pop". He said "smoke pot".
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Pop will hug Kawhi and congratulate him when he plays against the Spurs next. Then Pop will shake hands and hug Fred Van Vleet too when the Raptors come to town
True. Without Tim Fucking Duncan, commie is shit.
Most people here called the fall of poop when he started getting political. It happened. If he can't shut the fuck up next year, we'll be out in the first round again.
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
From the outside looking in it's always seemed like Pop was big picture kind of person. We've all heard him say there are things in life bigger than basketball or a persons individual accomplishments. I think this way of thinking does get the most out of players. It's what turns a D-League player into a starter or rotation player for an nba championship. It's not the only way of running a franchise or business but it's what has most worked for the Spurs, so why would we go away from it. I know there are some players who's thoughts are, "fuck this shit I just want to play basketball", I'm sure most fans think this way as well. Some players are good enough to play in whatever the hell environment they want to and still succeed, Kawhi Leonard. But fringe rotation players do not do well in the type of environment that is, BASKETBALL MATTERS AND NOTHING ELSE. Nor do stars, only the truly elite can dictate the environment of the team and still succeed.
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Originally Posted by
SupremeGuy
True. Without Tim Fucking Duncan, commie is shit.
Most people here called the fall of poop when he started getting political. It happened. If he can't shut the fuck up next year, we'll be out in the first round again.
so conservative posters started getting salty after pop starting saying liberal things. got it!
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Originally Posted by
MoSpur02
There is a saying that goes something like, "show me who your friends are and I'll show you who you are."
Well Popovich’s friend is a Trump campaign donating supporter lol(peter Holt)
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Originally Posted by
SpaceCoast Spursfan
I not sure where the animosity comes from though he may feel disrespect from the not a leader comment (taken out of context) or feel the Spurs made him out to be a quitter.
I did have a interesting conversation with my Co worker who is very tied in to the Magic organization whose current GM has close ties to Raptors FO. We had been talking back and forth on Kawhi last couple weeks. He had a conversation this past weekend and while there was no direct info regarding Kawhi/Pop relationship someone related a time they spoke with JSimmons after coming over to Magic.
JSimmons talked about how Pop was great but there were a group of players who did what they were asked but had issues with Pop. The specific things he mentioned were Pop treating players differently and not based on star VS role player, but he had his favorites, and who played wasn't always based on merit and some guys felt they were capable of doing more to help win but had to fall in line. (which is somewhat true of any team/coach I think).
The other interesting thing was he talked about Pop's politics, not from a standpoint of these guys being repubs or necessarily disagreeing with Pop (though he did said he knew JSimms wasn't a fan of taxes :) ) but it was more along the lines that JSimms wasn't "woke" and didn't care to be. He said there was a group of players that wanted to play basketball, give back as they saw fit, and didn't really care about political stuff and that wasn't OK with Pop. I don't have an exact quote but Simmons said something along the lines of told "a grown ass real nig**r doesn't need an old ass cracker telling him about how his people suffered and what he should be doing about it. I wanna play basketball and take care of my family". Again not a exact qoute, but what this guy remembered. Now JSimms never mentioned Kawhi but definitely said he wasn't the only one who felt this way
If true Jsims should really STFU...without POP/Spurs he'd be working at an airport unloading luggage
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Originally Posted by
D-Robinson 50 fan
The funny thing is I can believe Simmons most likely felt and said the comments posted of course without using the "ER" on the N- word.
He most likely felt he wasn't getting playing time due to Pop having favorites, even Stephen Jackson brought up the playing time stuff on television. The funny thing about that though is both players who complained about wanting bigger roles and more playing time were really not good enough to back up their complaints. Lol. Both times the Spurs did the right thing letting Jackson walk and Simmons is a low efficiency ball hog. Funny enough kind of like Jackson was. Lol.
As far as Pop's so called politics and such I can again see Simmons having the mindset of fuck all that because of where he came from and how he got to the NBA. There is alot of people who are out for themselves and those around them and that's it. Which is fine, in my opinion but I understand where Pop is coming from when he looks at people with money, power and influence should try to do more to help their communities.
A lot of people who "make it" forget that a lot of folks help them get to where they are and everyone needs assistance every now and then.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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spurraider21
so conservative posters started getting salty after pop starting saying liberal things. got it!
It is quite transparent, isn't it?
Kinda funny to me because they support a man that attacks everyone yet Pop has justifiable feelings on the man along with a majority of his fellow Americans but cant say a word. Sounds kinda safe-spacy to me...fucking MAGAts.
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Pop’s been ‘political’ for a long time. BFD.
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Amusing that it took some until recently to figure that out.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
Justified, tbh. He deported him to "NBA Siberia" like all of you faggots were saying last year. Then went on to say he wasn't a leader during the season.
FVV might have been drunk to be fair. We don't have to look any further than our GM during free agency or a drive home to realize we do stupid shit when we're drunk.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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It is quite transparent, isn't it?
Kinda funny to me because they support a man that attacks everyone yet Pop has justifiable feelings on the man along with a majority of his fellow Americans but cant say a word. Sounds kinda safe-spacy to me...fucking MAGAts.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Pop preaching he’s idiotic lefties bullshit if he was WINNING. Trump won the presidency, Cuck Popovich ain’t done shit since Duncan retired. And fuck Kawhi too. I ain’t never been a fan of his since the start.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
Pop was the mean old guy in the interviews who hates the sports media before putting his true views out there on a constant basis. It seem's like the comments really started flowing after team MAJORITY OWNER Peter Holt had to step aside due to his health issues.
I wonder if Doris Burke still hates Pop or if ESPN made her shut up Michelle Beadle style. Pop is no longer the insufferable jerk in the sports media's eyes due to his well known hatred of the President. It's not a coincidence.
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With Kawhitter gone and Masai ultimately gone(Obama will get him sooner or later) FVV will go back to being the anonymous scrub he always was.
And lets not forget, FUCK uncle dennis tbh.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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Harry Callahan
Pop was the mean old guy in the interviews who hates the sports media before putting his true views out there on a constant basis. It seem's like the comments really started flowing after team MAJORITY OWNER Peter Holt had to step aside due to his health issues.
I wonder if Doris Burke still hates Pop or if ESPN made her shut up Michelle Beadle style. Pop is no longer the insufferable jerk in the sports media's eyes due to his well known hatred of the President. It's not a coincidence.
Peter Holt didn't step aside due to health issues.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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BillMc
He kinda sounds like SJax....when he was washed up. BoooHooo, Pop likes Manu and Danny more than me.
Poor Danny. I doubt he was Pop's favorite. I guess Simms comment was about the old guys like Pau and Manu.
Simms wasn't the only one...I still remember Dedmon's RT of an article saying he deserved more minutes than Pau and how Spurs defense improved with him on court instead of Gasol.
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
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WhatI wanna know is what Pop did to Kawhi that made him hate him enough to talkshit about him to his teammates. From what I've heard, Kawhi's antipathytowards Spurs management has never extended to Pop.
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ShutUp SayItAgain!
Agreed. Kawhiconstantly throwing jabs now every single time he speaks...media runs with it.Spurs say nothing. Fuck that shit.
Constantly throwing jabs?? The last time Kawhi mentioned Pop was after Finals game 4 when he said “POP IS AGREAT COACH AND HE DIDN’T LET ME TO SKIP ANY STEPS”
Fred just made a joke. He was drunk af and made a joke.
It was like you have an ex and your friends make fun of your breakup calling her name in a video..Sometimes I just wonder if some of you guys have friends, fun, or even a life.
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Pop will hug Kawhi and congratulate him when he plays against the Spurs next. Then Pop will shake hands and hug Fred Van Vleet too when the Raptors come to town
There is no reason to do otherwise. Players have ton of respect for Pop, Kawhi/Fred included. And Pop loves players, too. FVV video means nothing
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Re: Fred VanVleet: "F**k Pop!"
Umm no that wasn’t a joke you don’t joke about that shit in the media.
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Well tbh spur traded kawhi to tor thinking he wouldnt ring.Im sure rapotors had a chip on their shoulder
to prove sa wrong
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