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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
JeffDuncan
Seven players drafted after Samanic are making serious contributions to their teams this season.
The Spurs (whose current record is 16 - 21) were unable to draft a player they could use at all.
Spurs actually drafted 2 players they could use. Keldon Johnson and Quindary Weatherspoon. It's just that their coach won't play them. Both of them are better than Nasir Little
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
JeffDuncan is a nagging bitch. None of those rookies he listed he's crying about are any good. Who the fuck cares if they're getting minutes?
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
BG_Spurs_Fan
Samanic's ceiling is so much higher than undersized center Brandon Clarke's, it's not even funny. I'd rather a team in transition draft based on potential rather than role players. Even if Samanic never develops and turns into a Dragan Bender the pick would still have been worth it.
It would have been cool if he could see some real NBA minutes from time to time but there no doubt it'd serve him better to play 30 mins a game in the Gleague rather than 5 or so in the NBA. The roster being constructed so weirdly makes it even more difficult - let's not forget the Spurs currently have 7 players on rookie contracts, that's as many as deep-into-rebuilding Atlanta Hawks. The other half of the roster consists of vets, with barely anyone in their prime. Must be difficult for the coaches to find the right balance, while still trying to make the playoffs.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
BG_Spurs_Fan
Samanic's ceiling is so much higher than undersized center Brandon Clarke's, it's not even funny. I'd rather a team in transition draft based on potential rather than role players. Even if Samanic never develops and turns into a Dragan Bender the pick would still have been worth it.
It would have been cool if he could see some real NBA minutes from time to time but there no doubt it'd serve him better to play 30 mins a game in the Gleague rather than 5 or so in the NBA. The roster being constructed so weirdly makes it even more difficult - let's not forget the Spurs currently have 7 players on rookie contracts, that's as many as deep-into-rebuilding Atlanta Hawks. The other half of the roster consists of vets, with barely anyone in their prime. Must be difficult for the coaches to find the right balance, while still trying to make the playoffs.
Agreed I'm all for the spurs taking risks with their first round picks. They have to try to find players that have potential to be stars. The guys the Spurs passed up to pick Luka over are just going to be good role players at best. Even Luka turns out to be trash I feel it was still a good risk to take in the sense it was low risk and high reward. The Spurs also drafted Keldon so he could turn out to be as good as guys like Clarke that it will offset Luka not panning out.
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Spurs actually drafted 2 players they could use. Keldon Johnson and Quindary Weatherspoon. It's just that their coach won't play them. Both of them are better than Nasir Little
The point remains that a team which is now 16-21 used its top draft pick on a player they knew perfectly well could not play at all this season. Drafting like that is the kind of thing a senile drunk would do. Or two senile drunks working together.
Quinndary and Keldon have played a combined total of 3.5 minutes. What they might do for the Spurs is totally unknown, and is going to stay that way.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
Hope the spurs can get something out of luka next season
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
Is he injured? Not even playing in today’s GLeague game
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
Darius Bieber
Is he injured? Not even playing in today’s GLeague game
Didn't look injured
https://i.imgur.com/MjOEBc7.jpg
https://media3.giphy.com/media/26gsw...iC4/source.gif
New Game WHERE IS LUKA?
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
JeffDuncan
The point remains that a team which is now 16-21 used its top draft pick on a player they knew perfectly well could not play at all this season. Drafting like that is the kind of thing a senile drunk would do. Or two senile drunks working together.
Quinndary and Keldon have played a combined total of 3.5 minutes. What they might do for the Spurs is totally unknown, and is going to stay that way.
What will our record be next season? We'll need to know that before picking our next draft pick so we can gauge the risk we are willing to take. Please be specific, within a game or two, we want to be precise in our risk managment.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
Darius Bieber
Is he injured? Not even playing in today’s GLeague game
Punishment for liking those tweets.
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Originally Posted by
bluebellmaniac
What will our record be next season? We'll need to know that before picking our next draft pick so we can gauge the risk we are willing to take. Please be specific, within a game or two, we want to be precise in our risk managment.
You would do the "smart" thing again, and draft a player you know will not play for the team, you say?
The Spurs were coming off a playoff series they ultimately lost by 4 points in the final game. Seems rather obvious the team needed a little help, doesn't it? So who did they draft? They intentionally drafted a player they knew would be of no help this season, because they knew he wouldn't even play, at all. And you think that was smart.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
tim_duncan_fan
Trade him. It's waaay too early for him to be having attitude problems when he hasn't shown anything especially noteworthy that demands accommodation.
He came in with the attitude and entitlement rep. He bailed on his Euro team to go through the draft workout process, just walked away.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
RC_Drunkford
Spurs actually drafted 2 players they could use. Keldon Johnson and Quindary Weatherspoon. It's just that their coach won't play them. Both of them are better than Nasir Little
Not to mention that they don't shove cocaine up their noses, and rat out their boys to stay out of jail.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
He came in with the attitude and entitlement rep. He bailed on his Euro team to go through the draft workout process, just walked away.
This is what I've been observing all season, dude is not a "team" "we" guy. For me this was CONFIRMED when Keldon was asked directly about his chemistry with Luka and he artfully, politically, dodged answering it directly. The kid has all the athletic metrics but he if ANYBODY needed that Greg Popovich "tough love" directly its this kid. Yet he'll he is consigned to the Austin club.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
He came in with the attitude and entitlement rep. He bailed on his Euro team to go through the draft workout process, just walked away.
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Originally Posted by
TheDrewShow
This is what I've been observing all season, dude is not a "team" "we" guy. For me this was CONFIRMED when Keldon was asked directly about his chemistry with Luka and he artfully, politically, dodged answering it directly. The kid has all the athletic metrics but he if ANYBODY needed that Greg Popovich "tough love" directly its this kid. Yet he'll he is consigned to the Austin club.
I think this was a known concern and I'm still god with drafting him.
Given his potential it's worth a shot. He just turned 20 living in a foreign country (not everybody it mature at 20- I wasn't). I do agree he could benefit form direct Pop time- but he also needs to play. As Drew has pointed out- while far from NBA the G league is pretty decent caliber nad he has not played much at any level.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
He aint getting no call up this season:lol
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
BG_Spurs_Fan
Samanic's ceiling is so much higher than undersized center Brandon Clarke's, it's not even funny. I'd rather a team in transition draft based on potential rather than role players. Even if Samanic never develops and turns into a Dragan Bender the pick would still have been worth it.
I'd rather that a team in transition behave like it's in transition. I've said it before - they aren't committed either way. IF they were in transition this offseason, why in the hell were they even looking at Marcus Morris? And that's just one example.
They're trying to have it both ways. You can't have it both ways.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
slick'81
He aint getting no call up this season:lol
Fuck off
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
Who knows if Luka could have had a breakaway season? Pop would have sat ppl like Nunn, Devonte Graham, etc... They'd probably have the other Luka in the G-league where we would be saying he is too slow and can't play defense good enough to be on the main roster...
We never know if we can have a breakout star because THIS VERSION of Pop doesn't handle young players well... He treats them as if we are a championship contender when in reality we suck and we should be actually playing our youth
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
It's not smart to mention guards, who can use athleticism to survive as rookie, to big men who aren't strong enough to play down low and don't shoot lights out.
Spurs currently have a lottery talent big in his prime years, is Luka a better win now prosect over poertle?
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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K...
It's not smart to mention guards, who can use athleticism to survive as rookie, to big men who aren't strong enough to play down low and don't shoot lights out.
Spurs currently have a lottery talent big in his prime years, is Luka a better win now prosect over poertle?
The real question: is he better than Lyles. It would be interesting to see him play instead of Lyles in February when we are out of the playoff hunt
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
BG_Spurs_Fan
Samanic's ceiling is so much higher than undersized center Brandon Clarke's, it's not even funny. I'd rather a team in transition draft based on potential rather than role players. Even if Samanic never develops and turns into a Dragan Bender the pick would still have been worth it.
It would have been cool if he could see some real NBA minutes from time to time but there no doubt it'd serve him better to play 30 mins a game in the Gleague rather than 5 or so in the NBA. The roster being constructed so weirdly makes it even more difficult - let's not forget the Spurs currently have 7 players on rookie contracts, that's as many as deep-into-rebuilding Atlanta Hawks. The other half of the roster consists of vets, with barely anyone in their prime. Must be difficult for the coaches to find the right balance, while still trying to make the playoffs.
Lol. Complete absolute nonsense. What are Luka's attributes that make his ceiling so high?
Even for a project this dude is not good. For a supposed shooter, he is complete trash, and against trash competition.
And he just might be the most unathletic supposedly "athletic" player I have ever seen.
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
itzsoweezee
Lol. Complete absolute nonsense. What are Luka's attributes that make his ceiling so high?
:pop: "Well for starters, he won't be competing with Bryn for minutes."
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Re: Spurs Select F Luka Samanic in the 2019 NBA Draft (19th Overall)
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Originally Posted by
itzsoweezee
Lol. Complete absolute nonsense. What are Luka's attributes that make his ceiling so high?
Even for a project this dude is not good. For a supposed shooter, he is complete trash, and against trash competition.
And he just might be the most unathletic supposedly "athletic" player I have ever seen.
Why do you have to be so hyperbolic in your statements? Samanic is not "complete trash" as a shooter or close to it. Ben Simmons is complete trash... Luka has, above all, a willingness to shoot; he has good form and a quick, high release point from the games I've watched. Obviously he's not going to be Curry but there's certainly room for improvement there. What catches the eye about Luka is how he handles the ball, which is much closer to a guard than a big. It's part of what makes KD so special (who, by the way, Luka models his game after): guards are too small to effectively guard his shot (someone post that Patty/Forbes on KD pics please), and bigs are too slow to keep up with his moves and handles. He's very far away from that picture but I'd say the ceiling is high.