Derozan on the trading block??

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Trades I'd do:

-Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)

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Yes to this; gets the team a young asset at a position of need to develop and nothing in SL should deter anyone on their value of Hunter.

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-Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum

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This would require a ton of salary beyond DeRozan. It’s either Batum for DeRozan or Marvin+Biyombo. But I would not do either unless a young player and/or pick(s) involved.

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-Covington + Dieng

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Dont think Covington is worth DeRozan. Would not hate it, but they would need to include picks

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-Winslow + James Johnson

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Picks would need to be included or at least Derrick Jones Jr., Bam or Herro.

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-Aaron Gordon + pieces

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Yes - this is the type of move for a younger all-starish player at a position of need that makes sense.

Adams and Roberson. Demar expiring should be attractive to OKC plus replaces WB points production

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Please don't tell me that you think Gordon can play SF. He lacks the skill set, even if he's the right size. Even Orlando finally figured that out, which is why he's available.

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Gordon can't play SF but he can guard SF.He checked Nephew as good as anyone in the playoffs.His versatility on defense is important.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Trades I'd do:

-Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)
-Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum
-Covington + Dieng
-Winslow + James Johnson
-Aaron Gordon + pieces

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The contracts in red are either too awful (Batum), or unplayable in todays switchable NBA and therefor awful (Dieng). I'd do either of the deals in green. The Gordon deal does nothing other than ensuring an ending contract, that somehow DD won't opt IN next summer. It's a nothing burger.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Please don't tell me that you think Gordon can play SF. He lacks the skill set, even if he's the right size. Even Orlando finally figured that out, which is why he's available.

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No, I meant big wing or "PF" if you prefer.

In this hypothetical trade, the rotation would be as follows . . .

Gordon/Gay
Fournier/Carroll
Aldridge/Poeltl
White/Forbes
Murray/Mills

Spacing would still be shaky, but they could get away with White starting. The only downside is no spot for Walker, but Murray, Gay and Carroll will all likely receive myriad rest games, plus obviously they'll be injuries and any non big (or "C" if you prefer) one would result in his playing. Also not impossible he'd flat out take the spot from Carroll, who'd be far less necessary with Gordon.

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Originally Posted by GusT15

Gordon can't play SF but he can guard SF. He checked Nephew as good as anyone in the playoffs.His versatility on defense is important.

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:tu

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Originally Posted by John B

Adams and Roberson. Demar expiring should be attractive to OKC plus replaces WB points production

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FUCK NO. Steven Adams got played off the floor in the playoffs last year, and Roberson is like 50 and can't shoot.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Trades I'd do:

-Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)
-Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum
-Covington + Dieng
-Winslow + James Johnson
-Aaron Gordon + pieces

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All of these make the Spurs worse.

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Originally Posted by GusT15

Gordon can't play SF but he can guard SF.He checked Nephew as good as anyone in the playoffs.His versatility on defense is important.

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It's a two way game. You can't just be a defender any more. He can't shoot or really handle the ball, so you can hide a weak defender on him.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Trades I'd do:

-Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)
-Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum
-Covington + Dieng
-Winslow + James Johnson
-Aaron Gordon + pieces

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Last two could be ok but others are bad, the hornets Trade is awful...

I Can understand That people are low on derozan but You don't Trade him for nothing

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

All of these make the Spurs worse.

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+1

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Originally Posted by exstatic

It's a two way game. You can't just be a defender any more. He can't shoot or really handle the ball, so you can hide a weak defender on him.

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I don't disagree that on half court sets he's a problem offensively,but,hey,he's still only 23.Maybe we can "fix" him if he's willing to put in the work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5pr4xq2

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

All of these make the Spurs worse.

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Some might in the short-term. Disagree on the others tbh.

there may be a god after all...

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Originally Posted by kobyz

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5pr4xq2

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masai is too smart for that.

Walker is going to be a stud. I think there's a good chance that DWhite will be a fringe All-Star player.

Any Derozan trade should keep the above in mind, that's the backcourt of the next 4-6 years. I wouldn't bring back any long-term pieces that impede the progress of those two tbh.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Trades I'd do:

-Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)
-Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum
-Covington + Dieng
-Winslow + James Johnson
-Aaron Gordon + pieces

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don't like the hornets trade but the rest improve the team

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

All of these make the Spurs worse.

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Derozan is not untouchable tbh. As long as Lonnie, Derrick aren’t involved, what’s the point of keeping Demar around? Continuity? Culture?

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Originally Posted by gambit1990

masai is too smart for that.

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Masai says yes to that and then starts dancing on his desk after hanging up the phone.

The Raptors then field a team of Lowry-VanVleet-DeRozan-Siakam-Poeltl (With Ibaka-Powell-RHJ on the bench) and are top4 in the East.

The Spurs with that trade miss the playoffs.

Kyle lowry to SA.

The teams that supposedly are talking to the Spurs are Orlando, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. There aren't any players that stand out to me that would really improve the Spurs. Otto Porter Jr? Zach Leaving? Blake Griffin? Aaron Gordon? Wiggins? Covington?

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Originally Posted by MoSpur02

The teams that supposedly are talking to the Spurs are Orlando, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. There aren't any players that stand out to me that would really improve the Spurs. Otto Porter Jr? Zach Leaving? Blake Griffin? Aaron Gordon? Wiggins? Covington?

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Source? All those teams make sense tbh.

The only player from Detroit that interests me would be Sekou and the salaries obviously don't come close. I wouldn't want Snell and Galloway taking away minutes from the better guards that are already on the Spurs.

Derozan for Kuzma :tu

Lebron needs more help, and we need something to fill the Bertans void. Win-win.

nvm: Lakers are over luxury tax

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Orlando, Miami, Cha, Chicago all make sense

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lol if miami goes all in with butler, cp3, and derozan. would be very new jersey nets of them