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American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States.
The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.
“I think everyone should be paying attention to this,” said Stephen S. Morse, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. “It’s not just going to be the elderly. There will be people age 20 and up. They do have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy.”
The findings served to underscore an appeal issued Wednesday at a White House briefing by Dr. Deborah Birx, a physician and State Department official who is a leader of the administration’s coronavirus task force. Citing similar reports of young adults in Italy and in France being hospitalized and needing intensive care, Dr. Birx implored the millennial generation to stop socializing in groups and to take care to protect themselves and others.
“You have the potential then to spread it to someone who does have a condition that none of us knew about, and cause them to have a disastrous outcome,” Dr. Birx said, addressing young people.
In the C.D.C. report, 20 percent of the hospitalized patients and 12 percent of the intensive care patients were between the ages of 20 and 44, basically spanning the millennial generation.
“Younger people may feel more confident about their ability to withstand a virus like this,” said Dr. Christopher Carlsten, head of respiratory medicine at the University of British Columbia. But, he said, “if that many younger people are being hospitalized, that means that there are a lot of young people in the community that are walking around with the infection.”
The new data represents a preliminary look at the first significant wave of cases in the United States that does not include people who returned to the country from Wuhan, China, or from Japan, the authors reported. Between Feb. 12 and March 16, there were 4,226 such cases reported to the C.D.C., the study says.
The ages were reported for 2,449 of those patients, the C.D.C. said, and of those, 6 percent were 85 and older, and 25 percent were between 65 and 84. Twenty-nine percent were aged 20 to 44.
The age groups of 55 to 64 and 45 to 54 each included 18 percent of the total. Only 5 percent of cases were diagnosed in people 19 and younger.
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The report included no information about whether patients of any age had underlying risk factors, such as a chronic illness or a compromised immune system. So, it is impossible to determine whether the younger patients who were hospitalized were more susceptible to serious infection than most others in their age group.
But experts said that even if younger people in the report were medical outliers, the fact that they were taking up hospital beds and space in intensive care units was significant.
And these more serious cases represent the leading edge of how the pandemic is rapidly unfolding in the United States, showing that adults of all ages are susceptible and should be concerned about protecting their own health, and not transmitting the virus to others.
The youngest age group, people 19 and under, accounted for less than 1 percent of the hospitalizations, and none of the I.C.U. admissions or deaths. This dovetails with data from other countries so far. This week, however, the largest study to date of pediatric cases in China found that a small segment of very young children may need hospitalization for very serious symptoms, and that one 14-year-old boy in China died from the virus.
Of the 44 people whose deaths were recorded in the report, 15 were age 85 or older and 20 were between the ages of 65 to 84. There were nine deaths among adults age 20 to 64, the report said.
Some of the patients in the study are still sick, the authors noted, so the results of their cases are unclear. Data was missing for a number of the cases, “which likely resulted in an underestimation of the outcomes,” the authors wrote. Because of the missing data, the authors presented percentages of hospitalizations, I.C.U. admissions and deaths as a range. The report also says that the limited testing available in the United States so far makes this report only an early snapshot of the crisis.
Still, the authors wrote, “these preliminary data also demonstrate that severe illness leading to hospitalization, including I.C.U. admission and death, can occur in adults of any age with Covid-19.”
Roni Caryn Rabin contributed reporting.
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Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.
New C.D.C. data showed that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were aged 20 to 54.
But the risk of dying was significantly higher in older people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html
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Important to note that tested were symptomatic probably fairly symptomatic so great majority probably got through with mild, maybe moderate flu symptoms and didn’t get tested so are not in the calculations. Still it would seem this is worse than just the average flu and FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS.
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yet another one falls
A day after mocking self-distancing, Trump-supporting 'evangelical' leader closes Liberty University
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Nothing says Christian hypocrisy like evangelical figurehead Jerry Falwell Jr.
His Liberty University has a large online student body but is also home to around 15,000 students on the Lynchburg, Virginia, campus.
Falwell’s speculation that all of the “hype” around the coronavirus was some kind of Democratic Party plot against Trump.
“We originally believed it was safest to return our students following their spring break instead of having them return following greater exposure opportunities from leaving them in different parts of the country for longer periods.
But, the Governor’s recent decision to limit certain gatherings has left us no practical choice because we have so many classes of more than 100 students.”
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/17/1928313/-A-day-after-mocking-self-distancing-Trump-supporting-evangelical-leader-closes-Liberty-University?detail=emaildkre
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Actually he may have a point for the wrong reason. They’re probably all infected from partying together all spring break. Isolate them together
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"Still it would seem this is worse than just the average flu" seem? :lol
"FAR MORE CONTAGIOUS"
one of the most sinister aspects, as Italy discovered, is that infected and INFECTIOUS people are asymptomatic for 5-7 days before symptoms.
I don't know if it's still in effect, but a CDC insane rule says no testing until symptoms.
Perhaps that rule was justified due to few test kits available,
BECAUSE THE TRASH/REPUG CDC kakistocracy FUCKED UP
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I'll never own another Ford. The ventilator will have a recall in the 1st week, then Ford will reflash it to have lower performance than the listed numbers that just barely beat out the competition.
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If "they" are denying you a test because your symptoms are not severe enough then what else are you supposed to do? Will they fire you for taking time off?
I know it's Spurs related but Death in June is a rather eery user name these days, especially for you
"They" being human health services, as well as the private sector including the clinic I work at. No one wants to use test here. The name is a reference to a god awful
"apocalyptic neo folk band." Its one of those embarrassing AOL email addresses/screen names I've had since highschool (circa 2003).
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I'm in a bit of a tricky situation. I have some cold symptoms...cough, sore throat, fatigue. I'm a pharmacist at an HIV clinic (the only pharmacist there) and my employer can't find relief for me. I am extremely conflicted about going to work as I could possibly be a carrier in one of the most vulnerable patient populations there is. They also wont test me as my symptoms are "not severe enough." As if that matters.
I've seen fever, cough and shortness of breath, bluish lips (lack of O2 obviously), pressure in the chest and confusion listed as well. Haven't seen sore throat though as a symptom. Regardless, even if you have strep or something else, that's a reason to avoid going to work regardless of what your employer can find.
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Death In June
"They" being human health services, as well as the private sector including the clinic I work at. No one wants to use test here. The name is a reference to a god awful
"apocalyptic neo folk band." Its one of those embarrassing AOL email addresses/screen names I've had since highschool (circa 2003).
Name sounds more like the Spurs playoffs in 2013 tbh
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I'll never own another Ford. The ventilator will have a recall in the 1st week, then Ford will reflash it to have lower performance than the listed numbers that just barely beat out the competition.
or the airbag will go off and behead you ma nig
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Britain is royally fucked
just now they are shutting down London underground and panic buying
just a week ago they were going to “take it on the chin” and go for herd immunity :lmao Porton Johnson :lmao
they should have shut down, quarantine weeks ago
they are fucked
my call is they will fare as bad or worse than Italy
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There is some info that appears to show this might depend significantly on lung health and vitality. Vapers and smokers good luck. Asthmatics congenital stuff in the lungs, stay away from people. Today’s news. Tomorrow we might get something else.
Good news for me today because I’m back in the mix job wise. We are doing small group with distancing. Someone has got to have the stuff in our group(s). So I’m thinking I will get it and have mild symptoms. Other people in my closest relationships world are working somewhere in something medical related so my thinking is we will all get it. Testing would be nice. In SA at the moment, some GPs are swabbing, but you have to go in AND have symptoms. They will take a sample in the parking lot. Almost Sounds like drug deals.
I wonder if this will be considered like an Eagle Scout Badge in the future. You had the covid? check the box. And we salute you, don’t give blood. Maybe it will scarlet letter, who knows. Probably people won’t even care.
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The last time USA was hit with a viral pandemic, for comparison. H1N1 had kill rate of minuscule 0.02%, even lower than seasonal flu.
"On November 12, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 22 million Americans had been infected with 2009 A H1N1 and 4,000 Americans have died.[127]
On December 10, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 50 million Americans or 1 in 6 people had been infected with the 2009 A H1N1 Virus and 10,000 Americans had died"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_f..._United_States
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Britain is royally fucked
just now they are shutting down London underground and panic buying
just a week ago they were going to “take it on the chin” and go for herd immunity :lmao Porton Johnson :lmao
they should have shut down, quarantine weeks ago
they are fucked
my call is they will fare as bad or worse than Italy
yo what is germany is doing to limit death rate?
Are they hypocrites and undereporting?
I dont see why they are so concenred if their death rate is almost the same as the flu.
My eyes are on them since they were in the front lines accusing china and iran of underreporting deaths
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Is anyone else following this issue closely feeling extreme time dilation?
I feel like it was months ago when I heard a hipster next to me at the bar telling the bartender that he did not fear going to sxsw, how he was going to go out of his way to shake 'so many hands', and all this would blow over. It was the Friday afternoon before they officially cancelled sxsw, only 13 days ago :lol
Feels like way longer than that tho
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LaMarcus Bryant
Is anyone else following this issue closely feeling extreme time dilation?
I feel like it was months ago when I heard a hipster next to me at the bar telling the bartender that he did not fear going to sxsw, how he was going to go out of his way to shake 'so many hands', and all this would blow over. It was the Friday afternoon before they officially cancelled sxsw, only 13 days ago :lol
Feels like way longer than that tho
this happens in calm before the storm tbqh
everything will start to go fast pretty soon
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yo what is germany is doing to limit death rate?
Are they hypocrites and undereporting?
I dont see why they are so concenred if their death rate is almost the same as the flu.
My eyes are on them since they were in the front lines accusing china and iran of underreporting deaths
not sure
but they are shutting it all down and just called in their army reserves :wow
some shit is about to go down
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How the Obama administration tried to save us from what Trump is doing right now
In January 2017, the Obama administration’s transition team conducted tabletop disaster response activities with Trump's top aides.
One of those tests was eerily prescient—a strain of novel and deadly influenza they called H9N2, origination in Asia and quickly spreading to Europe and then to the U.S.
"Health officials warn that this could become the worst influenza pandemic since 1918," the Obama team told Trump's aides
Those materials show that the "Trump team was told it could face specific challenges,
such as shortages of ventilators, anti-viral drugs and other medical essentials, and
that having a coordinated, unified national response was 'paramount.'"
So when you hear "no one could have predicted" from Trump and team about this pandemic, well, now you know.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/17/1928402/-How-the-Obama-administration-tried-to-save-us-from-what-Trump-is-doing-right-now?detail=emaildkre
Echoes of dubya/dickhead's team ignoring Clinton staff's warning about OBL and terrorism
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In other words...we didn't do this for the last 8 years but you might want to think about doing it.
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Reminds me of a political cartoon I saw with all sorts of religious people huddled around a scientist looking into a microscope saying "SAVE US", with a giant menacing version of the virus in the background.
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80% of ppl in Madrid will get the bug
got some homies there :pctoss
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How the Obama administration tried to save us from what Trump is doing right now
In January 2017, the Obama administration’s transition team conducted tabletop disaster response activities with Trump's top aides.
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In other words...we didn't do this for the last 8 years but you might want to think about doing it.
Nothing in the article suggests that such simulations weren't run under the Obama administration, confirmation-bias-boy.
Right to my point as to GOP-cum-Trump-Party anti-intellectualism. You people owe us an apology for fostering this in your political ideology.
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FL Man de Santis just shut down Spring Break, beaches closed
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LaMarcus Bryant
Is anyone else following this issue closely feeling extreme time dilation?
I feel like it was months ago when I heard a hipster next to me at the bar telling the bartender that he did not fear going to sxsw, how he was going to go out of his way to shake 'so many hands', and all this would blow over. It was the Friday afternoon before they officially cancelled sxsw, only 13 days ago :lol
Feels like way longer than that tho
Feels like the opposite to me. Feels like it was just yesterday when Italy was telling its people to go hug Chinese tourists.
