Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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Originally Posted by slick'81

Counting chickens a little early d

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My post contained the word "if"

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I don't want to score any points. If our outcome is toward the low end of the uncertainty band, we should all pat ourselves on the back for the collective sacrifice.

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I know we're not out of the woods yet, but I'm pretty proud with a number of States... California containment has been remarkable vis a vis the population, Oregon shipping out ventilators to NYC is what America is all about, etc.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

My post contained the word "if"

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Yea big IF

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

And we have no results for anything like that.

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I know docs who are seeing results

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I know docs who are seeing results

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Compared to what?

I'll wait for the trials with controls.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I know docs who are seeing results

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The only real scientific way to do this is handing out placebos vs not placebos, and you have to be a royal asshole to hand out placebos right now.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I know we're not out of the woods yet, but I'm pretty proud with a number of States... California containment has been remarkable vis a vis the population, Oregon shipping out ventilators to NYC is what America is all about, etc.

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Not to mention 10s of thousands of volunteer health professionals who went to NY, many out of retirement. That's some brave shit, tbh.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Not to mention 10s of thousands of volunteer health professionals who went to NY, many out of retirement. That's some brave shit, tbh.

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I've said it before, health professionals in the frontlines are the real heroes here.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I know docs who are seeing results

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What specific results d?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

The only real scientific way to do this is handing out placebos vs not placebos, and you have to be a royal asshole to hand out placebos right now.

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But that's the only way to know that it's better than placebo.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

But that's the only way to know that it's better than placebo.

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It's the only way to discern if it's the drug making a positive effect or the recoveries have to do with a different factor (genetics, personal immune system, previous vaccinations, etc).

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Originally Posted by slick'81

What specific results d?

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Much quicker recovery than average and very few requiring hospital. But it has to be given before patients have severe complications.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

It's the same in a lot of states... not to mention a lot of people depend on that drug too for other diseases. There's undeniably a shortage, as it's expected in such a crisis situation.

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lupus women with active disease depend on it and are having difficulty finding it.

It's both and anti-viral and immuno-suppressant, the latter being why lupus victims depend on it.

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Researchers Warn Possible Coronavirus Treatment Hydroxychloroquine

May Be Toxic When Combined With Diabetes Drug

30-40% of mice treated with a combination of HCQ or CQ and diabetes drug metformin, died.

Treatment with the same dose of either drug alone had no effect on the survival of the mice.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/04/05/researchers-warn-that-covid-19-treatment-touted-by-trump-may-be-toxic-when-combined-with-diabetes-drug/#36604ed155f8

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Novartis, Mylan and Teva to supply tens of millions of chloroquine tablets to fight COVID-19

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...ine-tablets-to

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Originally Posted by Chris

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Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Thread

Chris is our finest soldier.

God bless you, Chris.

Chris

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...9U4ArnPyKecpW8

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I know docs who are seeing results

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Oh an anecdote

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Originally Posted by Xevious

Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.

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They said they were in ny,and then weve heard nothing,but more deaths coming, and usa prepares for worst weeks ahead...wish wed know if these treatments were helping improve patients outlooks here

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Originally Posted by slick'81

sooo were fucked?

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We'll get through it, bro. Spanish Flu was FAR worse.

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Originally Posted by Xevious

Like I said before, we've already been giving hydroxychloroquine to COVID patients here in the US for a few weeks now. Is it helping? I have no idea.

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The old man loves to throw it in their face during these Pressers. He knows it bugs 'em no end. He's ball buster without a lot of fanfare. I bust balls, but, I'm a loud mouth. Not him, he does it stealthily. Not on purpose, I don't think. It's just his way, his natural way.

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

We'll get through it, bro. Spanish Flu was FAR worse.

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:tu

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

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Chump -- if you get it, you'll probably be fine with Tylenol and Gatorade. :tu

I know you'd never take some medicine that drumpf mentioned.

If I had to place a bet on a treatment I’d go with Roche’s Actemra (tocilizumab). It may be approved as early as this summer to treat COVID-19, according to the FDA. The drug is already approved in the U.S. for rheumatoid arthritis. The company began a Phase III trial of the drug plus standard-of-care in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia about two weeks ago. The drug is an immunosuppresive which targets cytokine release syndrome. I think hydoxychloroquine will be found relatively ineffective, just getting a lot of hype because of Dr. Trash.

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This reply :lmao

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Originally Posted by Thread

The old man loves to throw it in their face during these Pressers. He knows it bugs 'em no end. He's ball buster without a lot of fanfare. I bust balls, but, I'm a loud mouth. Not him, he does it stealthily. Not on purpose, I don't think. It's just his way, his natural way.

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The hell are you talking about? Go take your Alzheimer's medication and watch some Jeopardy.