Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Also cubby if you're going to toss off to MSNBC, Nicole Wallace is a much better candidate. Though personally I'm a Norah O'Donnell guy.

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Indeed, she drives me wild.

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Originally Posted by Thread

Indeed, she drives me wild.

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Wallace always has an impressive bush when I'm watching, but I always picture Norah shaved clean.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Wallace always has an impressive bush when I'm watching, but I always picture Norah shaved clean.

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Yep, Wallace is a living doll. I must confess I do not like Norah, bum. Just not there for me.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

These absolute morons in government can't foresee basic things yet throw stones all day like they are capable of doing things better than someone else. Goodness some even think the size of government should increase. These people are laughably bad at their jobs.

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Posting tweet headlines without reading the article.

The employees are "mad." So? How does their anger undermine the capability of this program? It doesn't, because if you read the article, you'd see "gubmint" has instituted a fail safe:

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Black-Lewis’ workers may not have a choice, however. Since she has already made an offer to pay the workers, the state may deem them ineligible to collect unemployment benefits, according to labor economists.

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And they should be unable to collect. I side with the business owner here. Since she has enough to pay them their standard wages they agreed to, there's no ethical wrong on her part. They're trying to double-dip due to their own greed because, wait for it, they are a part of that "Nation of Spoiled Children" contingent I talk about.

Again, they could be mad all they want. The program achieved what it was supposed to achieve. It paid those workers their typical wages.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Of course, but party A makes it known "I will pay you x amount for the package" and they collect however many they can, then resell.

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Is there money in it though? What can you really get at a foodbank that you can flip and make money both for you and your cohorts?

Those kind of schemes makes sense when there's a decent resell value. I guess some people are bored enough to waste that time for a dollar.

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So much for the invulnerability of younger folks. It's also worth pointing out the incidence of permanent disability among survivors.

It's yet another reason to do as much as we can reasonably do to keep cases down.

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The novel coronavirus appears to be causing sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not otherwise terribly ill, doctors reported Wednesday.

They said patients may be unwilling to call 911 because they have heard hospitals are overwhelmed by coronavirus cases.

There’s growing evidence that Covid-19 infection can cause the blood to clot unnaturally, and stroke would be an expected consequence of that.

Dr. Thomas Oxley, a neurosurgeon at Mount Sinai Health System in New York, and colleagues gave details of five people they treated. All were under the age of 50, and all had either mild symptoms of Covid-19 infection or no symptoms at all.

“The virus seems to be causing increased clotting in the large arteries, leading to severe stroke,” Oxley told CNN.

“Our report shows a seven-fold increase in incidence of sudden stroke in young patients during the past two weeks. Most of these patients have no past medical history and were at home with either mild symptoms (or in two cases, no symptoms) of Covid,” he added.
“All tested positive. Two of them delayed calling an ambulance,” Oxley said.

It is not common for people so young to have strokes, especially strokes in the large vessels in the brain.

“For comparison, our service, over the previous 12 months, has treated on average 0.73 patients every 2 weeks under the age of 50 years with large vessel stroke,” the team wrote in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine. That’s fewer than two people a month.

A stroke in a large blood vessel causes severe damage if it is not removed right away. At least one patient has died and others are in rehabilitation facilities, intensive care or in the stroke unit. Only one went home but will require intense care, Oxley said.

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https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-...f5b48ecce4484b

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

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That is what is needed. Something we are all going to have to live with for the next year or two.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Is there money in it though? What can you really get at a foodbank that you can flip and make money both for you and your cohorts?

Those kind of schemes makes sense when there's a decent resell value. I guess some people are bored enough to waste that time for a dollar.

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Some dude around Lago Vista went around buying up all the eggs in the stores to resell at a farmer's market. Local businesses got wind and offered eggs to consumers at their cost. Never underestimate the lengths someone will go to scam.

This is from an older article in San Francisco...

"Visit the farmers market in downtown San Francisco on Sundays, and you may see, past the stands of organic lettuce and fresh flowers, a few elderly women hunched over a random assortment of condiments and canned goods. As security approaches, they quickly scatter, only to set up shop on the opposite corner a few moments later.

“It’s like throwing sand into the ocean, it just comes right back,” said Ken Hurst, security officer for the Heart of the City Farmers’ Market at U.N. Plaza.

According to several food pantries, elderly recipients of free food disbursements are turning around and selling the donations at various locations throughout San Francisco. Those who work in the business of handing out food say that the practice is a sign of how bad the economy has gotten for seniors trying to survive in the city. Others agree, but also say that at some food pantries, the desperation has intensified the competition for food.

A woman selling food near U.N. Plaza acknowledged that she goes all over the city to pick up food at the pantries. She then sells the items to help make ends meet.

“We don’t get enough money for rent or for daily use,” said one woman who was selling food donations she had picked up earlier. The elderly woman spoke through an interpreter and asked to remain anonymous."

https://sfpublicpress.org/news/2011-...anks-to-sell-0

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Director of key federal vaccine agency says his departure was retaliation
Updated 5:18 PM EDT April 22, 2020
CNN

The director of the office involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine says he was abruptly dismissed from his post in part because he resisted efforts to widen the availability of a coronavirus treatment pushed by President Donald Trump.
Dr. Rick Bright had led BARDA, the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, since 2016 until Tuesday, when was reassigned to a narrower position. He also announced he will file a whistleblower complaint with the Department of Health and Human Services' inspector general.

"I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit," Bright said in a lengthy statement issued Wednesday. "I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science -- not politics or cronyism -- has to lead the way."

He cited "clashes with political leadership" as a reason for his sidelining, as well as his resistance to "efforts to fund potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections."

Bright clashed directly with Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Bob Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response, two people familiar with the situation told CNN.

One source said the "political leadership" Bright referred to in his statement is Azar.

Bright previously did not respond to repeated requests for comment on his departure by CNN. The Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment on Bright's statement.

Bright said he "limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit."

Trump repeatedly promoted that therapeutic treatment for coronavirus, touting its possible effects at White House briefings as recently as April 13.

A spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services confirmed Bright's move in a statement to CNN Tuesday and said he will now lead a new government project: a public-private partnership on vaccine development and treatment.

"On April 17, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced a new public-private partnership -- the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV) partnership -- to accelerate the development of COVID-19 vaccine and treatment options. At the same time, given the simultaneous importance of accelerating the development of diagnostic tests for COVID-19, Dr. Rick Bright will transfer the skills he has applied as Director of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) to the National Institutes of Health, as part of a bold plan to accelerate the development and deployment of novel point-of-care testing platforms," the HHS statement said.

Bright had been with the agency as its influenza and Emerging Infectious Diseases Division director since 2010 before he was tapped to lead it in late 2016.

BARDA is a small, but powerful agency with remarkable purchasing power. Though little-known, it is especially critical during a pandemic, which is why Bright's abrupt departure surprised his colleagues.

Bright was removed from his position but is not resigning, the source familiar said. He said Wednesday he will request that the HHS inspector general "investigate the manner in which this administration has politicized the work of BARDA and has pressured me and other conscientious scientists to fund companies with political connections as well as efforts that lack scientific merit."

He has not yet filed the request, according to the source, but intends to do so in the next day or so.

His lawyers said in the statement that that they will request a stay of the termination and that Bright "be permitted to remain in his position" pending the investigation's findings.

This unaualified, incompetent POS Trump is trying to kill as many Americans as is humanly possible.

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When you serve at the pleasure of the POTUS, it's not like you didn't volunteer.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Some dude around Lago Vista went around buying up all the eggs in the stores to resell at a farmer's market. Local businesses got wind and offered eggs to consumers at their cost. Never underestimate the lengths someone will go to scam.

This is from an older article in San Francisco...

"Visit the farmers market in downtown San Francisco on Sundays, and you may see, past the stands of organic lettuce and fresh flowers, a few elderly women hunched over a random assortment of condiments and canned goods. As security approaches, they quickly scatter, only to set up shop on the opposite corner a few moments later.

“It’s like throwing sand into the ocean, it just comes right back,” said Ken Hurst, security officer for the Heart of the City Farmers’ Market at U.N. Plaza.

According to several food pantries, elderly recipients of free food disbursements are turning around and selling the donations at various locations throughout San Francisco. Those who work in the business of handing out food say that the practice is a sign of how bad the economy has gotten for seniors trying to survive in the city. Others agree, but also say that at some food pantries, the desperation has intensified the competition for food.

A woman selling food near U.N. Plaza acknowledged that she goes all over the city to pick up food at the pantries. She then sells the items to help make ends meet.

“We don’t get enough money for rent or for daily use,” said one woman who was selling food donations she had picked up earlier. The elderly woman spoke through an interpreter and asked to remain anonymous."

https://sfpublicpress.org/news/2011-...anks-to-sell-0

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What happened to free market and anarcho capitalism? I thought scamming and price gouging was fair game.

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

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In my area in CA. Big lines of military humvees with big signs saying do not touch, restricted area. Right behind the gas station.

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Yeah, outdoor dining would be a nice alternative to bring back some of those server jobs. And the movie industry seriously needs to start looking into outdoor drive-in solutions. They're fooling themselves if they think people will comfortable in a few month returning to indoor theaters.

Remdesivir production may be getting ready to ramp up in India with generic pricing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprin.../406432/%3famp

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Yeah, outdoor dining would be a nice alternative to bring back some of those server jobs. And the movie industry seriously needs to start looking into outdoor drive-in solutions. They're fooling themselves if they think people will comfortable in a few month returning to indoor theaters.

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Yeah...I know a lot of people are die hard "have to see it in theaters" people. But I think there's also a lot that are always border line about going to the theater or waiting for it to stream. I'm sure the COVID is enough to be the tie breaker for a large % of them.

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Originally Posted by picnroll

Remdesivir production may be getting ready to ramp up in India with generic pricing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprin.../406432/%3famp

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well shit. hopefully other another trial show promise.

WU projection revised upwards again to 67,641. Silence from the usual suspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexUJeWmzSE

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexUJeWmzSE

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Seriously, Darrin?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Seriously, Darrin?

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Solid take. Video is like 9 minutes long. You replied in less than 1 min.

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Yeah, outdoor dining would be a nice alternative to bring back some of those server jobs. And the movie industry seriously needs to start looking into outdoor drive-in solutions. They're fooling themselves if they think people will comfortable in a few month returning to indoor theaters.

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For sure this thing circulates super easily in HVAC and enclosed environments (elevators, tour buses, subways, nursing facilities). If they can space tables out >6', wear masks, check temps on entry, I don't see why it wouldn't be a possibility. All that follows the guidelines.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Solid take. Video is like 9 minutes long. You replied in less than 1 min.

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Ingraham. I'm gonna guess she didn't talk to any doctors.

Is this correct?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Ingraham. I'm gonna guess she didn't talk to any doctors.

Is this correct?

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Typical Chumpy, not at all interested in the content, just the presenters. And since he waited 7 minutes to respond to the latest, he actually watched part then pretended to guess the contents as a defense to his first knee jerk reponse.

Another display of dishonesty by the dishonest hermit troglodyte.